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Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Oct 24, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
It is at least clear that Ron knows absolutely nothing about science in general and climate science in particular.
This thread has made it quite clear that the deniers here are math & science morons.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 24, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Accuracy means nothing to Ron, really Larry? How about you running around representing yourself as a climate scientist? How about you making up regional graphs and representing them as typical or magnified from the global mean-if there is really such a measurable thing? For all we know, you are an unemployed sociologist turned salesmen who latched onto this global warming craze as a tool in hawking snow making machines to hapless ski resort operators in the northeast.

Base, have you found us any new gas and oil deposits lately? We are approaching the point in the axial tilt cycle that favors glaciation. The eccentricity of our current orbit about the sun makes the northern hemisphere summers several days longer than southern hemisphere summers-could this have anything to do with growing Antarctic ice?
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Oct 24, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
Rick Summer

Delusional



Fact !!!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 24, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Coming from the likes of you Wyna, with a view of world skewed 180 degrees from reality, i'll take your delusional designation as a badge of honor. Thankyou.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Oct 24, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
For all we know, you are an unemployed sociologist turned salesmen who latched onto this global warming craze as a tool in hawking snow making machines to hapless ski resort operators in the northeast

Classy.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~lch/

Chiloe, if you don't want this posted I'll remove it.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
RickS, you can sure sling the sh#t. But when asked to post up you own information, you slink away for a few hours in hopes nobody will notice just how clueless you really are.


If I recall, Chiloe took your bait head-on and answered all your questions, and debunked all of your baseless rants.


Now it's time for you to put up or shut up. Come on and show us that you have something, anything, on which you base your beliefs...

You guys and the graphical trickery are plain disgusting.
    Rick Sumner

Your turn now, draw us your own graph. One with no disgusting trickery.
    Chiloe
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2013/8

More lies,probably from one of those contracted Russian satellites.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
And then theres that pesky fact that AK has had a COOLER summer

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lol
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
Thanks Mono,I should not take it for granted that they would actually read that.
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
And then theres that pesky fact that AK has had a COOLER summer
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
Maybe Sumner meant the summer was COOLER because it wasn't the HOTTEST ever.

Accuracy is important to him, after all.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska

Oct 24, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Coming from the likes of you Wyna, with a view of world skewed 180 degrees from reality, i'll take your delusional designation as a badge of honor. Thankyou.


Lol
Well, you are a far right wing lunatic who believes all the countries, universities, scientists and science of the world are involved in a vast left wing conspiracy to rob you, a back woods uneducated Luddite, of your freedoms!!
lol

Ya I'm pretty much the opposite of that!!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
It's like watching a clown car.

Chuff is driving.

Rong is in the back trying to pass out beers and drinking whiskey - completely clueless as to where they are headed.

Sketchy is next to Rong telling jokes.

Rick is in the passenger seat with the map giving directions.

Every once and a while they pick up a hitch hiker who sits bitch.

Problem is Chuff took too many of rongs beers and is hammered, Sketchy is telling bad jokes and nobody is listening and Rick is holding the map upside down. Instead of driving away from the cliff they are headed towards it.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
So the year only counts in summer? How about duration? And why is that pesky sea ice still growing to the tune of over 60% recovery THIS year? You cherry pickers can do better than that.





"Alaska has been experiencing a widespread cooling pattern for at least a decade, scientists say.

In the first decade since 2000, the state has cooled an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit, the online newspaper Alaska Dispatch reported.

That's a "large value for a decade," the Alaska Climate Research Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks said in a report published in the Atmospheric Science Journal.

Cooling temperatures have been recorded at 19 of the 20 National Weather Service stations spread throughout Alaska, the report said.

Parts of Western Alaska saw temperatures drop a significant 4.5 degrees for the decade, it said.

Researchers said the cooling was likely caused by an ocean phenomenon known as the Decadal Oscillation that moved colder surface water temperatures closer to Alaska.

Researchers said it is unknown how long the cooling trend might last, although they noted the state experienced thirty years of relative cold climate starting in the mid-1940s."
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
I'll grant you that Alaska's june and July temps were unusually warm almost statewide. However this followed a cold winter of historic length and a return for most of the state to average temps from august onwards. It dipped below freezing in southcentral and the interior with measurable snow in both locations very early, in September. Overall, the year is still below the average mean.

Nature, we are all driving separate vehicles in a destruction derby with you folks. There is little to no collusion other than what you see on these pages.

I have to admire the tenacity of all you delusional hotheads, you have been dealt nothing but losing hands almost this entire year and yet you soldier on for the cause. If you would just relax, and rip van winkle for awhile, all would be fine and you'll spare yourselves much heartache. The world will go on with the climate doing what it naturally does independent and uncaring of all the hysterical hype.
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
I would say that:
cause of global warming =cause of most of the global warming
in most discussion. The default understanding usually implies a most or main (cause).

Of course you would. That supports your position.

But then you gotta wonder why they specified the primary cause of recent global warming in level one, while not requiring the same with levels two and three.

Also, by your logic: cigarette smoking causes deaths = causes most deaths.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/impacts-adaptation/alaska.html

Then there is the story based in reality.About Alaska.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
how OLD is that "reality" Wilbeer?



"The average sea ice extent in September has decreased by 11.5% per decade over the past 30 years. Climate models project that sea ice will continue to retreat during the 21st century. Late summers could be nearly ice-free as early as about the 2040s."



from that epa site-- sooo NOW its 2040s for an ice free arctic after the epic FAIL of it being gone this year.

Uh huh.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
That's a very conservative estimate, Anderson.

Do ya think it's the very same source that gives all the predictions?

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
"Over the past 50 years,Alaska has warmed twice as fast as the national average"

Tell me Ron,did you miss that?

I know ,Alaska is cooling.

And, I know you can read ,it was last updated 9/9/2013
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