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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 13, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
Rick doesn't understand order of magnitude. Your observation of laziness on his part he no doubt thinks outrageous and incredibly disrespectful of thee enormous pile of indecipherable gibberish he has been deciphering every evening for a few years now. He has yet to figure out that his level of dedication to the task is still a bit short .... By multiple levels of magnitude
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Nov 13, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Recent further evidence that the oceans are temporarily absorbing the excess heat.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/10/131031-climate-ocean-temperatures-years/
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 13, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
K-Man that vid is absolutely correct.

Giving Subsides to FF's is SOCIALISIM.

There are some here that do not understand that.

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 13, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
I read enough RW blogs here ,so here is a liberal slant.







thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/11/13/2933271/2013-heat-sea-level/
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 13, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
Humorous post Bruce but f-off anyway, same goes to the almighty turd Wyna. I beg your pardon Ed, the TSI variation from a solar max to a minimum is variously estimated to be as high as one percent , much more than the commonly ascribed tenth of one percent of the typical high to low of an eleven year schwab cycle. With that kind of variation over a period of decades it adds up as an imbalance to the plus or negative side. So you have that still unproven possibility. Then of course there is up to eight percent variation in some of the uv solar spectrum having effects on ozone and other constituents of the upper atmosphere causing theorized cascade events that have pronounced effects in the troposphere. What about cme's and variations in the velocity of the solar wind. And the jury is not in on magnetic flux and cosmic ray infuced cloud nucleation- did you see the Jasper Kirkby presentation I posted a link too- I would have thouhht him coming from Cern and being a fellow particle physicist would rate some credibility to his ideas on your part. . No, there is still much yo learn about our sun and the extent of its effects on our climate. For you to claim othrrwise w ould be disengenuous.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Nov 13, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
where is The Chief?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 13, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
Chuff?

He is a bit preoccupied right now defending his mayorship of Toronto.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Nov 13, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
so you mean he isn't out climbing?
meh
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 13, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
Humorous post Bruce but f-off anyway,

what makes you think I was cracking a joke?

Anyhoo, this is promising:



Climate Deniers Must Pay $90,000 For ‘Not Acting Reasonably,’ Court Rules
BY EMILY ATKIN ON NOVEMBER 13, 2013 AT 12:07 PM

CREDIT: NIWA
A New Zealand group dedicated to downplaying the existence of climate change has been ordered to pay close to $90,000 in court fees for bringing a “faulty” lawsuit that had sought to invalidate data that proved the country’s temperatures were on the rise.
The New Zealand Court of Appeals ordered The New Zealand Climate Education Trust — a group that seeks to “reflect the truth about climate change and the exaggerated claims that have been made about anthropogenic global warming” — to pay fees to the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, an environmental science research firm. The lawsuit claimed that NIWA was unethically and intentionally misinterpreting temperature data to promote the idea that climate change was happening.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/11/13/2934861/climate-deniers-pay-80000-court-fees/

Cool huh? Maybe there's money to be made in this "scientism " stuff after all. Aparently all you have to do is demonstrate that your opponents are idiots, which is pretty simple as they like to demonstrate that themselves. Then you collect.

Rick, the way I see it you owe me about fifty bucks. Before you get too smug and think you're getting away with something (which you thrive on) consider the fact that if you owe me fifty, then you'll be paying for Eds retirement until either you or he is dead.

Better not quit your day job just yet. Keep banging up those fake adobe cookie cutter shitboxes with the sub code wiring in Summerlin or henderson or where ever.....

Which reminds me - where the hell do you hide the circuit box?
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Nov 13, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
I can visualize a class action lawsuit against the deniers since they are delaying a response; a delay that will increase the cost of mitigation. Of course the knuckleheads here are pisspoor ... which is why they are deniers in the first place.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:02am PT
Bruce you friggin idiot. Read your highlighted blurb yourself. They were ordered to pay because they brought forth a frivolous lawsuit that they lost, not because of verbalizing opposition to idiocy. I do agree with this. There should be consequences for tying the courts up with bogus legal actions. If this was universally adopted it would slow the environmental insanity that uses the frivolous legal course more than any other single group I can think of. Continue on with.your self delusion amigo, life is short and you need something to occupy your dwindling years.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:14am PT
oh there's lots to occupy my dwindling years, don't worry about that. The good thing about Lost Wages is not so much your shitboxes ( thanks by the way, 20 bucks a head per night, easy to over look the shitty wiring job) but the stellar sandstone climbing up the canyons. But that is just a side show to your side show, then there's Cirque de Solie, and Elvis meets Morrison and the daily medevacs long lining out of Red Rocks, and cheap beer, people watching at Whole foods..... I think I saw Sarah Palin there.

Nevadastan is good fun, just a bit dry and getting drier.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:41am PT
I'm out in the northern Nv country outside of Minden . Not in Vegas. My god man, I haven't stepped foot into that shethole, other than the closest grocery store down Charlseton from the campground, in over fifteen years. I even take the back way in around Pahrump and down blue diamond just to avoid vegas. Good climbing there at Red Rocks though often crowded. These days I prefer sh#t rock in remote unexplored areas over the "pretty stuff" with the teaming masses.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:46am PT
These days I prefer sh#t rock in remote unexplored areas over the "pretty stuff" with the teaming masses.

Yes, I think I saw you and Ron as I flew over those piles of mine tailings. Looks pretty...... engaging.
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Nov 14, 2013 - 07:26am PT
MANILA—When supertyphoon Haiyan, locally known as Yolanda, made landfall last Friday on Guiuan, a coastal town on the central Philippine island of Samar around 410 miles south of Manila, it was described by some as the strongest storm to make landfall in the world this year, maybe ever.


So is it?

Data from the national weather bureau, the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration, or PAGASA, showed that Typhoon Haiyan’s intensity – measured by the wind strength at its center and the speed of gusts at landfall – Haiyan ranks at number 7 among the strongest storms ever to have hit the Philippines.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 14, 2013 - 08:05am PT
It is something that when you go to PAGASA'S website and search for press release's ,or anything about the haiyan typhoon,nothing will show up .

Conversely if you go to WUWT's website you will find Sketch's info.

Really.
http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph


then
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/13/deconstructing-the-hype-on-super-typhoon-haiyan-y

well
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/nasa-keeps-eye-ferocious-super-typhoon-haiyan-space-8C


Just as Chiloe had said upthread.
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Nov 14, 2013 - 08:58am PT
It is something that when you go to PAGASA'S website and search for press release's ,or anything about the haiyan typhoon,nothing will show up .

Conversely if you go to WUWT's website you will find Sketch's info.

The piece I quoted came from the Wall Street Journal. I don't think it's available on the WUWT website.

I'm guessing guessing the initial assessments of this storm being "the most powerful storm ever recorded on earth" will be disproven, much like Boulder's 1000 year flood. However, most people will only remember the early headlines.

Is it okay to let incorrect "facts" stand, if they help your cause?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2013 - 11:12am PT
The piece I quoted came from the Wall Street Journal.


Interesting... Who owns the WSJ nowadays anyway, and do you believe the paper is biased one way or the other?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 14, 2013 - 11:34am PT
Interesting to see the IPCC admit to mistakes on the latest climate change report.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
http://kidlat.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/cab/tc_frame.htm

Where did wall street journals get their data from?

Maximum sustained winds at 171 and peak gusts at 193 mph for Joan is less than the peak gust that can be found on my link above.

They also seems to have missed Reming.

Is it possibly that wall street journal is not a good scientific source?
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