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Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:24am PT
It is well known that they are the outlier on the high side.

No, they are not an outlier, high or otherwise. Are you just making that up, or did someone tell you it was true? By what definition of outlier, and with what evidence?

all the cries of doom

Did I cry doom?

and supporting scientism is viewed as science fiction, poor material at that.

No, what I cite is actual science, which you counter with rants and your deep faith in fantasy.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:26am PT
El Nino bringos mucho caliente, no?

Second time (at least) you've parroted that talking point Sketch. Can you think it through at all? I guess we know the answer.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:26am PT
BS Ed. You scientists need to get off your doom loving asses and study adaptation measures, how and where to most efficiently use resources and alternative methods of procurring those resources. You give the engineers some workable solutions and they can take care of the details. We dont need to go backasswards to live in a healthy eco system
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:39am PT
Answer the question that you and the others insist on avoiding.

Chief, nobody is avoiding this, it's been addressed many times. But you are not reading, or remembering -- so why bother answering?

For example, I posted this same link last summer, on one of the previous occasions the same question came up. Don't recall? You'll forget this time too.

The observed global warming of the past century occurred primarily in two distinct 20 year periods, from 1925 to 1944 and from 1978 to the present. While the latter warming is often attributed to a human-induced increase of greenhouse gases, causes of the earlier warming are less clear since this period precedes the time of strongest increases in human-induced greenhouse gas (radiative) forcing. Results from a set of six integrations of a coupled ocean-atmosphere climate model suggest that the warming of the early 20th century could have resulted from a combination of human-induced radiative forcing and an unusually large realization of internal multidecadal variability of the coupled ocean-atmosphere system.

Several climate models accurately simulate the global warming of the late 20th century when the radiative effects of increasing levels of human-induced greenhouse gases (GHG) and sulfate aerosols are taken into account. However, the warming in the early part of the century has not been well simulated using these two climate forcings alone. Factors which could contribute to the early 20th century warming include increasing greenhouse gas concentrations, changing solar and volcanic activity, and internal variability of the coupled ocean-atmosphere system. The relative importance of each of these factors is not well known.
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/early-20th-century-global-warming
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:41am PT
Whaddaya know... Chiloe... not being an as#@&%e... again.

Go ahead, Sketch, skip the name-calling. Can you think through your own point about El Nino? Looks already like you can't.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:47am PT



rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska

Oct 20, 2014 - 09:26am PT
BS Ed. You scientists need to get off your doom loving asses and study adaptation measures, how and where to most efficiently use resources and alternative methods of procurring those resources. You give the engineers some workable solutions and they can take care of the details. We dont need to go backasswards to live in a healthy eco system

Oh shut up. Just shut the fook up you illiterate hypocrite. First things first. So much energy is spent trying to get policy cranks like you out of the way. Like you care anyway...
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 20, 2014 - 09:50am PT
Okay if its true they are not outliers how about posting Hadcrut, RSS, UAH, then.

As far as the late great 2014 El Nino goes, its here. What you see is what you get. Because of different wind patterns and the negative phase of the PDO it is manifesting in different locations and ways from what is expectef.

Oh STFU yourself Dirtbag girl/man/or crossover
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2014 - 10:05am PT
Tangent Sketch?

Looks like you don't know what you are responding to:

... no warming for 15 years despite CO2 increases
    FreedomFirst

you still don't know the difference between surface temperatures & heat content?
--Wade Dicey

Since surface temperature seems to have fallen out of favor and "heat content" is the new metric, ...
    Sketch

can you name when the 10 hottest years on record occurred? (BTW, that is temperature we're talking about).
    k-man
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2014 - 10:15am PT
Enough warming that the temperature has increased. Surface temperature, no way around it. How else could we be posting the hottest years on record, year over year, with 2014 on track to be the hottest ever.

How do you square that with your "no warming" comments?

You don't, you avoid.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2014 - 10:22am PT
I ask how much and you reply with a wordy "some".

You asked "how much" and I replied? With the word "some"??

No, didn't happen. You're spinning...
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 20, 2014 - 10:24am PT
My god Sketch, a whole .0019 per year? Are the measurements really that accurate?

Indistinguishable from zero, statistically speaking.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 20, 2014 - 10:35am PT
Any politician (with any intelligence) looking at this thread is going to see that average, uneducated Americans are dumber than horseshit and conclude that their opinions should be ignored.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 20, 2014 - 10:45am PT
And if the universe does not comply with our predispositions, okay, then we have the wrenching obligation to accommodate to the way the universe really is.
Carl Sagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVIgpzoqRbk
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 11:18am PT
It's always fun to watch your shameless hypocrisy.

More name-calling, no hint of intelligence. Can you think for yourself at all?

Moving on... why are you so butthurt over my El Nino comment?

I'm not, just laughing at you. You do this dance every time.

You claim I'm parroting a talking point. From where?

WUWT would be my guess, they seem to be the well for "your" ideas. Bob Tisdale?

Aren't El Ninos associated with warmer global temps? Hasn't an El Nino been anticipated in 2014? What's your beef?

Sure they are. Now think it through a step further on your own. You still can't, because Tisdale hasn't said?
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 20, 2014 - 11:35am PT
dirtbag

climber
Oct 20, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
Boo hoo hoo.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
You chime in, acting like a self-righteous little b!tch.


No Sketch, Chiloe asks if you can think for yourself. It's obvious from your reply that you can't.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 20, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
Oh Chiloe. You're right. This is the same old dance. You chime in, acting like a self-righteous little b!tch. I give it back to you. And you get all haughty. Now, you're reduced lies.

Whatever it takes to defend the faith, right perfesser?

3 for 3 now just name-calling. That's all you got.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
From your stupidity about many thriving coral reefs to "perhaps" being an insult to today's tempratures have risen "enough".


WTF?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 20, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
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