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Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Dec 13, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
Looks like the UK gov'ts just aren't accepting the idea. At all...

    The Chief

Scottish Power becomes third firm to scrap UK offshore wind farm

LONDON (Reuters) - Scottish Power scrapped plans for a huge offshore wind farm on Friday due to tricky ground and wave conditions and the presence of protected sharks.



It looks to me like the UK gov't is accepting the idea wholly that it's difficult to build offshore wind farms due to the conditions on the open sea.

Is that the point you're trying to make? Odd way to put it.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
Doesn't The Chief like to post NOAA charts?

NOAA: Expect 'Widespread, Sustained Changes' in the Arctic





Yes The Chief, look at that hiatus! And then, it goes down!!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
NOT due to material failure.


Human incompetency.


In other words ED, some dude/s were not paying attention to their work or did not read the maintenance manual correctly.

Now please do tell us how that incompetency equates to humans attempting to claim they can "maintain" the earths climate mechanics.


Allow me ... I think it more accurately equates to the incompetency of the unqualified fiddling with the mechanics of a helicopter in complete disregard to the explicit instructions on page one of the maintenance manual:

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL A POSER HELICOPTER GROUPIE BE ALLOWED WITHIN 100 FEET OF A HELICOPTER WHILE IN POSSESSION OF A WRENCH
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
The North Slope of Alaska just had a rainstorm--yes, a rainstorm--during its perpetual darkness season. Yes, it was that warm!!!! As the pressure and temperature gradients wane between the equator and polar regions, the jet stream will become wavier with greater levels of amplitude as theorized by many climate physicists. This will serve to pump more warmth into the high latitudes--yet another unanticipated positive feedback. Check out the Arctic Sea Ice Blog for ongoing info.
    Karl



An interesting comment on, well, the weather.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
And it snowed 6-10" in Jerusalum yesterday KMAN. First time in over 20 plus years.



Damascus got well over 5-8".... I can see that AGW based snow will assuredly entice the Syrian crises to get worse now.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
Of interest to dunning krugger fans:

Bertrand Russell said, "the trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, while the intelligent are full of doubt". Recent research in psychology suggests that our confidence often exceeds our competence. Our brains, researchers claim, take shortcuts and jump to conclusions that flatter us. Can we accurately assess what we know, or are we all subject to the fool's dilemma? Author Laura Penny talks to psychologists and writers about new perspectives on the age-old philosophical problem of human ignorance and self-delusion.

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2013/12/12/the-fools-dilemma/


However, suffers of Dunning Krugger syndrome should avoid listening to this at all cost.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
in one ear and out the other
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
Unusual weather....


Is there such a thing as usual?
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Global warming is still a myth, wrapped in a lie, and hung around our necks to enslave us.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
oh.

thanks for the enlightenment dave. We can count on you for that.
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Dec 13, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
there may be a very good reason for that drool.

Are you presently located in the southern or northern hemisphere?

I am cold because I am ill! Located mostly in the northen part of the bed. lol

Thanks for the article, Bruce.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
the only people who read articles like that are the bed ridden
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
first snow in Cairo in 112 years = climate change
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
Anytime.
All those freezing their butts off are wondering
where all that global warming heat is hiding?

Or did it just radiate out into space and didn't tell you warmists?
Embarrassing that CO2 sucks so bad as an insulator.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
What missing heat were you referring to Dave?

Credit: monolith
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
Yep ,we are enslaved all right

Credit: wilbeer

Unless you are a weak,frail,55 year old,wonder boy,stoned and all alone.

Thanks for the continuous Comedy.

Skating in the morning ,bc skiing the rest of the weekend.ha ha ha !
would be fun on a motorcycle like bitd,but made for speed skating. <br/>
T...
would be fun on a motorcycle like bitd,but made for speed skating.
This annual race was always in november ,you know before.
Credit: wilbeer

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
Global warming is still a myth, wrapped in a lie, and hung around our necks to enslave us.


And you know this how?



And:

All those freezing their butts off are wondering
where all that global warming heat is hiding?


dave, it's hypocritical to use a cold snap to denounce AWG while at
the same time ignoring record high temperatures, year after year, as
an indication of a warming planet.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 13, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
Science is always a scam..

There was this guy in the 1400's who used it to scam money from the queen of Spain.

It's just obvious that the world is flat. If you live in Kansas it's obvious.

Global warming? Don't need no high falooting temperature measurements and stuff.. just lick your finger and stick it in the wind.

Whoops I mistook this for the Friday night drunk thread.

On a more serious note. When it comes to deciding what societal institutions to give credence to.

I'll stick with the one that uses evidence and serious peer review of methods and conclusions.

As always the source of your information matters.

Neither of you qualify as peers when it comes to climate science. Period. You do not have the experience required to to be sources of credible opinion. I'm sorry TheChief and Rick. In fact most of the sources you "cite" are not credible either.

I like both of you a great deal as people. I would absolutely take your advice on certain topics as both of you have exceptional expertise in certain areas. But ask yourself

Would you expect good advice from a world renowned heart doctor regarding house framing? Or naval search and rescue procedures? Even if they had "read all about it" ?

Meh.. I hate this thread.. nothing to be gained except pissing off people I genuinely like and admire. Just happen to disagree on this topic which none of us are likely to have any impact on anyway. Nor is it likely at all that any minds will be changed or that even if minds were changed it would matter one bit.

I should just delete
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