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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:02pm PT


Figure 32. Heavy downpours are increasing nationally, with especially large increases in the Midwest and Northeast.99 Despite considerable decadal-scale natural variability, indices such as this one based on 2-day precipitation totals exceeding a threshold for a 1-in-5-year occurrence exhibit a greater than normal occurrence of extreme events since 1991 in all U.S. regions except Alaska and Hawai‘i. Each bar represents that decade’s average, while the far right bar in each graph represents the average for the 12-year period of 2001-2012. Analysis is based on 726 long-term, quality-controlled station records. This figure is a regional expansion of the national index in Figure 2.16 of Chapter 2. (Figure source: updated from Kunkel et al. 201399).
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
Nice building, thanks for posting.

"All for profit". Yes most of us don't have the luxury of working in the navy, polluting and building sh#t every where in the name of a non-profit, protecting and fighting non-wars.

W//HAT A FECKING HYPOCRITE YOU ARE...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-worlds-most-pristine-waters-are-polluted-by-us-navy-human-waste-9193596.html
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:06pm PT
There are a few posters to this thread who will quickly jump on a weather event with an implied or explicit 'see, I told you so, more extreme weather events.'

Despite knowing better.

So when the chief points out the lack of a particular weather event, don't be dumbasses. The weather is not the climate. Not even big storms like the remnants of a Baja hurricane over Phoneix. Citing those as evidence of human caused global warming IS F*#KING STUPID.

So stop doing it.

Or don't. But yall look stupid doing it. Because you call him on it while ignoring your own use of a single weather event. Childish.

DMT
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
Dingus, extreme precipitation events are up, as the graph above shows.

Warmer air, more moisture. Simple physics.

Don't just look at hurricanes.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
http://wrenchbiscuit.hubpages.com/hub/The-United-States-Navy-and-the-Polluted-Oceans


Yes Chief...keep posting pictures of where I work while you worked for http://www.politicalaffairs.net/u-s-military-the-world-s-largest-polluter/


DMT...it's not single event...it is the time between them and the severity of them.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
Biggest polluting machine in the world. "The US military is responsible for the most egregious and widespread pollution of the planet, yet this information and accompanying documentation goes almost entirely unreported. In spite of the evidence, the environmental impact of the US military goes largely unaddressed by environmental organizations and was not the focus of any discussions or proposed restrictions at the recent UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. This impact includes uninhibited use of fossil fuels, massive creation of greenhouse gases, and extensive release of radioactive and chemical contaminants into the air, water, and soil."
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
"The US Military is responsible for generation of over one-third of the county's toxic waste. Millions of acres of US Military property are being environmentally cleared for transfer to local communties. These environmental clearances are often completed with a total disregard for human health and the environment.

Finding Chemical Weapons
The US Army has been developing technologies to address Chemical Warfare Munitions when they are discovered on firing ranges or buried in disposal areas. The Non-Stockpile Chemical Weapons Citizens Coalition has been meeting with US Army representatives to ensure treatment technologies do not use the atmosphere for ultimate disposal. Alameda Pt. Naval Air Station
Interactive toxic maps have been developed for 1,700 acres of the closed Alameda Pt. Naval Air Station. The toxic maps put the results of 208 separate risk assessments at your fingertips.
Philippine Bases
Clark Air Force Base and Subic Naval Facility were abandoned by the US Military in the early 1990s. The toxic waste sites at these facilities are the source of health problems in surrounding communities. See what the People's Campaign for Base Cleanup is doing about this tradegy.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:29pm PT
"War is said to be the ultimate cause of environmental destruction. The absolute devastation of the environment in combat has been proven by examples such as World War II, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War. However, even in peacetime, military activity causes environmental destruction through the construction of facilities, everyday activities on base, and the preparation for war such as military training and maneuvers. Particularly in the case of the United States, the enormous military power that accounts for half of the world’s military expenditures, the destruction of the environment is appalling. For example, in Japan, the damage to nature that would accompany the construction of an alternative facility to Futenma Marine Corps Air Station in Okinawa will be accelerated and aircraft noise will damage the areas surrounding the bases. In the Korean community of Mehyang-ri, aerial bombing practice has caused severe environmental pollution. This essay will focus on the pollution of US bases in Asia in order to come to grips with the environmental problems caused by military activity. After investigating the pollution of US bases in Yokota (Japan), Okinawa and the Philippines, we will examine the principal conclusions that can be draw from those examples. Our purpose is to locate ways to resolve these military environmental problems."
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/30/us/toxic-pollution-at-military-sites-is-posing-a-crisis.html
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:41pm PT
Dude, I drilled way more than 2500 bolts.

Humans are pretty much f*#k up, I'm human so there you go. No free pass for me. Some do more damaged than others, your little military is the biggest offenders of them all.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Little Ricky..you are perfect. Very god like. Just like Werner.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
Ricky wrote: Now, switch avatars to my EXWIVES and play your game.

Funny, how many do you have?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
I don't roll that way Ricky...I come straight at you, not from behind.

Hope you find out who or which exwives is posting.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
Talk to Chris and ask him to track the IP address.

I'm willing to bet a thousand dollars right now.

I don't roll that way.

Put you money where your mouth is.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
A thousand dollars right now Ricky. What a little weasel.

And just who is "we"? That little army of people in your head?
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 11, 2014 - 03:50pm PT


And every year for 50 years when Nobel Prizes are announced in science, guess who gets most of them? Americans, because after Sputnik, America said, we've got to take the challenge and beat these guys. And I think it's un-American to say, this'll destroy the economy. This is a challenge for heaven sakes. And where is that gung-ho American, you know, that let's go and get on with it spirit?
http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-time-to-get-real-on-climate-change/
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 11, 2014 - 04:47pm PT

The mission of OUR CHILDREN'S TRUST is to establish the legal right to a healthy atmosphere and stable climate for all present and future generations.

By supporting youth plaintiffs in strategic atmospheric trust litigation, OUR CHILDREN'S TRUST empowers youth to lead a game-changing effort to hold the ruling generation accountable and to compel governments in the United States and abroad to adopt and implement enforceable science-based Climate Recovery Plans.

http://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/Mission


http://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/press-releases
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 11, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
DMT...it's not single event...it is the time between them and the severity of them.

I'll get back to you next time one of the regular posters does it here. Happens with every big event. Every time.

the SEE I TOLD YOU SOs are out in force.

When no event happens and the chief says SEE I TOLD YOU SO everyone calls him an idiot and points out that weather ain't climate.

I've seen this go down at least a half dozen times. I could name names but the record is there. I'll point it out next time. But the Arizona flood attributed to global warming?

Who ever said that is guilty as charged. I agree with the chief, that is f*#king bullsh#t.

DMT
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 11, 2014 - 05:35pm PT
WTF does Bob D ( the farmington pizza flipper?) know about climate change? Just another disaffected idiot sheepishly parroting the official progressive talking points. Stick to the rocks and your pizza toppings because in any other endeavor you're a freakish accident of nature looking for a place to happen
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 11, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
Rick, I don't flip pizza, a run a business. What about you?


Where you that fight last night with the Palin's?
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