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Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 15, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
This science is as solid as any science we use everyday. It spans many, many disciplines and probably millions of studies and scientists.

That explains the accuracy of all those IPCC climate models.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
I always dribble away a few iq points after reading a post made by rong, skooch or Chief Loudmouth.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
Yes much like you barfing dog gif... Seems to be about 50% of your posts of late.

(to be followed by barfing dog gif in 3~2~1~)
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
They're so defensive.

What's that about?

Perhaps, they're not really that sold on climate alarmism.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
This science is as solid as any science we use everyday. It spans many, many disciplines and probably millions of studies and scientists.


FAIL and COMPLETE DENIAL!

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
How Beautiful his Mind is?
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Interesting chart. Looking at the last 30 years, actual warming was less than half of the predicted warming. Of course that's just the average.

I don't know much about modeling and statistics. Can someone tell me if the Hadcrut record is withing one standard deviation of the models' average? Two standard deviations?
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Nice gif, Mono. I like how the FAR & SAR start a full degree lower than the actual temperature.

Is that handicapping?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
Credit: wilbeer
climate.nasa.gov/climate_resource_center/9

Stench ,here is some more handicapping.

Real American of you.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
You can't predict year to year.

The "Models" and Reality departed their own ways some 15 years ago.


Nice try Doc.


Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Nice gif, Mono. I like how the FAR & SAR start a full degree lower than the actual temperature.

Yep, there's some trickery involving the starting points, but it's in Roy Spencer's graph and not the one Mono posted. Folks who can't figure out why are folks who never took a stats course.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
Of course Chiloe.

Why don't you write Dr. Spencer and confront him on that. Be very interesting to see You, as sociologist debate climate with a climatologist. Especially one of the lead climatologists of the 2001

But it's pretty damn easy to come on ST and pound your sociologist chest and tell folks like Dr. Spencer they are wrong. All without them being here to make a complete fool out of you.








Gotta love this one...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
well taking a pic of a polar bear on an arctic taxi ISNT much of a newsworthy magazine cover eh..?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
....in 1977 we didn't know how to beat the Soviets

AH, who didn't. And who was losing. We certainly weren't.

That's probably what your American Young Communists meeting proliferated on a weekly basis.


BTW, we had already been to the moon and back seven times and were in the process of implementing the STS Program.

Of course that doesn't matter.

Nice try clown.




PS: No one beat the Communist Russians in the end. They beat themselves. Just as your failing ideology will do.

Really MONO!





Love the flip flop!!!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 15, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
You like NASA when they benefit your stance ,aye ,Chef.True American.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Look to the scientific literature, not the popular media.

90% plus of the people look at the media. NOT scientific lit. Dumbass.



And now Dr. Schneider was a "dumbass" BITD.


Got it.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 15, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
But it's pretty damn easy to come on ST and pound your sociologist chest and tell folks like Dr. Spencer they are wrong. All without them being here to make a complete fool out of you.

Hah, much smarter folks than me have told Dr Roy Spencer that his graphic is bogus. Doesn't matter, the fan base for his blog, unlike readers of peer-reviewed journals or scientists at meetings, seems to be largely innumerate, primed to believe and repost what he feeds them.

As gullible as he is angry, Chief does not notice that the Time "coming ice age" cover Dr Roy fed his readers, and Chief reposts above, is a well-known hoax.

Here's the hoax,


And here's the real Time cover:

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 15, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
Another Ice Age?

Monday, June 24, 1974

In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada's wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have...
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

The Coming Ice Age
A true scientific detective story
By Betty Friedan


How a rising of the ocean waters may flood most of our port cities within the foreseeable future and why it will be followed by the growth of a vast glacier which may eventually cover much of Europe and North America.

As Ewing and Donn read the evidence, an Ice Age will result from a slow warming and rising of the ocean that is now taking place. They believe that this ocean flood which may submerge large coastal areas of the eastern United States and western Europe is going to melt the ice sheet which has covered the Arctic Ocean through all recorded history. Calculations based on the independent observations of other scientists indicate this melting could begin, within roughly one hundred years.

It is this melting of Arctic ice which Ewing and Donn believe will set off another Ice Age on earth. They predict that it will cause great snows to fall in the north perennial unmelting snows which the world has not seen since the last Ice Age thousands of years ago. These snows will make the Arctic glaciers grow again, until their towering height forces them forward. The advance south will be slow, but if it follows the route of previous ice ages, it will encase in ice large parts of North America and Europe. It would, of course, take many centuries for that wall of ice to reach New York and Chicago, London and Paris. But its coming is an inevitable consequence of the cycle which Ewing and Donn believe is now taking place.

The coming of another Ice Age is an event serious scientists have never been able to predict from observable Earth phenomena. For until Ewing and Donn postulated their new Theory of Ice Ages (it was first published in Science in June 1956 and a second report appeared in May 1958) the very nature of the problem seemed to defy the kind of scientific understanding which makes prediction possible.
http://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 15, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
climate.nasa.gov/climate_resource_center/9

Stench ,here is some more handicapping.

Real American of you.

Nice chart.

It's especially awesome in that it confirms a point no one was challenging.

Way to contribute.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Oct 15, 2013 - 08:01pm PT
I never would have taken Chuff for a Betty Friedan fan. It must have been a slow day and a few bills to pay for her to start writing about some vague noise about a coming ice age and her little article is about all it ever amounted to.

Or at least it would, if it wasn't for the noxious idiots who keep resurecting it like it actually meant something.

Stick to Roy Spencer Chuff. At least he's still sort of alive
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