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raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
I am sure that you can find the information yourself. UAH seems to be .17 degrees on that time interval or something like that.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
I even answered your question.

I can give you two hints about the chief's source.

You read that blog.
It is possibly to put words into google and found out where on the internet someone wrote something.

But really why should I help a dishonest liar like you (using your use of those words)? Have you found the several authors yet? Do the CO2 increase in the atmosphere when more plants grow?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
There's your chance to prove him wrong, Sketch.

Will you do it? I doubt it.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
and it doesn't matter. that is for the ego.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
The Chief...No longboard or scabbed knuckles but we use to pedal our butts off and catch big rigs at the top of sherwin grade on our italian road bikes and draft them all the way to the bottom...good , clean fun...RJ
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 05:04pm PT

asked: What was the warming per decade for those other six temperature records?

You responded with: I even answered your question.

Please, read my answer to you post. It even includes a number. No it is not the post when I wrote that I answered you. It is the post before. Do you find it now? You even quoted it. Does that make it easier?


And then defend you lack of response by attacking me.

Sorry, it is hard to argue with an idiot. I actually thought that you read my post when you quoted it.


One big difference between me and you is I'll make an effort to back up my claims. I admit... I'll bail when it's obvious the other guy is just being a d1ck.

No, the difference is that you are a dishonest liar. You first start to attack the person that points out the errors in your posts. Then when it is obvious that you are wrong you just ignore the point instead of admitting that you where wrong.


But, I typically try to back up my claims if the other guy isn't a d1ck.

Yes, you sometimes try to do that. The problem is that you almost never manage to do it.


On the other hand, you run away like a little pus$y, at the first challenge.

We must live in completely different universes and read different forums or something like that. I have challenged many of your ridiculous posts and you are the person that have run away.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 5, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Slate's guy denies there's a climate change "pause" going on.
See http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/11/05/climate_pause_nope.html
Just skimmed it--didn't seem to convincing.
One of his "points" (he has at least 2) are that almost all the alleged warming is in the oceans.
He does a decent job of trying so scare us to that effect (bleached coral, oh my), but funny how the alarmists don't normally say that almost all the alleged global warming is happening in the oceans--might limit their ability to fleece the public for more "research," junkets, and such.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
Blahblah sems to be just now waking up to this ocean stuff but still remains unconvinced, lol.

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
As they all do monolith.

Why they ask ,"Is just the last 160 years , all they have considered"?

Again ,just cant figure that out,aye?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators

FRUITCAKES!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
but funny how the alarmists don't normally say that almost all the alleged global warming is happening in the oceans--might limit their ability to fleece the public for more "research," junkets, and such.

Well no, this this has been a major focus of research and discussion (including many posts on this thread) over the past few years. Stefan Rahmstorf provides an up-to-date primer, also cited and discussed upthread.

The amount of heat stored in the oceans is one of the most important diagnostics for global warming, because about 90% of the additional heat is stored there (you can read more about this in the last IPCC report from 2007). The atmosphere stores only about 2% because of its small heat capacity. The surface (including the continental ice masses) can only absorb heat slowly because it is a poor heat conductor. Thus, heat absorbed by the oceans accounts for almost all of the planetís radiative imbalance.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Blahblah sems to be just now waking up to this ocean thing . . .
No, seen it on this site for a while and am sure it's widely known to anyone who does anything more than just reads the popular press.
But that's the point -- the popular press doesn't seem to report that -- I guess it wouldn't sell too many papers or attract too many eyeballs to say something like "hey you know all that global warming we're trying to scare you with--if you're a land dwelling creature, it many not really be too big a deal!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Media Ignore Study Finding Ocean Warming 15 Times Faster Than In Past 10,000 Years
TV Media Neglect To Cover Evidence Explaining The "Pause" They Amplified

Warming ocean surface temperatures brought on by climate change prompt coral bleaching events and alter ocean chemistry via Duke University

A new study found that over the last 60 years the intermediate depths of the Pacific Ocean have warmed 15 times faster than in the past 10,000 years, providing more evidence that the "slowdown" in atmospheric temperature warming over the last 15 years may simply be due to the oceans storing more heat. However, this study was neglected by the same TV outlets who hyped the "slowdown" or "pause," sometimes without including this crucial context.

The study, published in Science on November 1, shows the enormous potential for oceans to act a "storehouse for heat and energy," providing support for the notion that a recent speed bump in atmospheric temperature rise in the past 15 years can be explained by excess heat from global warming being absorbed by the oceans. Study coauthor and Columbia University climate scientist Braddock Linsley explained, "We're experimenting by putting all this heat in the ocean without quite knowing how it's going to come back out and affect climate."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/05/after-overhyping-global-warming-pause-media-ign/196747
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
it's the Earth System that is being effected, which includes the oceans... the oceans also interact with the atmosphere. Eventually the oceans will dump energy back into the atmosphere and we'll have more atmospheric heating . . .

Maybe, but it's also possible that the oceans will simply convey the additional heat to the earth's core!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 5, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
Ninety percent of the radiant energy earth stores is in the ocean
There are multiple oceanic oscilla tions ,or turnovers if you will, that periodically have positive phases when they release radiant energy (heat) into the atmosphere and negative phases when they absorb radiant energy from the atmosphere. The positive phases of both the PDO and AMO happened to coincide with a solar grand maximum in the latter 20th century, hence most of the modest heating of that period was from this coincidence. A smaller proportion, probably less than 25 percent was due to a grab bag of anthro causation including elevated co2 which can be partially attributed to man, but it's larger proportion is from oceanic and terrestrial outgassing due to elevated temps. CAGW is a crock of shet. We are now entering a pronounced solar minimum coinciding with negative oceanic cycles and this should produce readily testable results including modest reduction of both atmospheric and oceanic temps and a gradual slight reduction in atmospheric CO2.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 5, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
Credit: monolith
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 5, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Nov 5, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
it's also possible that the oceans will simply convey the additional heat to the earth's core!
the post of a math & science imbecile

it's about as likely as it is for water to run uphill
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Nov 5, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
I make no attempt to reason with the trolls,
I merely (&justifiably) mock them
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