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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 4, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
The Chief..Come on over and we can watch Orange County Choppers and real life drama...You bring the graham crackers and milk...RJ
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
Better yet RJ, come on down, bring your wanna-be longboard skateboard, I will put you on tow and you can have your real life drama hanging on at 140mph.

I will even Go-Pro ya and we can all have a great laugh afterwards when you release and then slide/fly into the barbed wire fence over by Laws at 60 plus mph's.

I will put it on Youtube and it will go.. viral!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 02:43pm PT


RSS Datasets found here EDH. Do the work to verify the above:

ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/monthly_time_series/rss_monthly_msu_amsu_channel_tlt_anomalies_land_and_ocean_v03_3.txt

“There is a lot of noise in the climate system and it is quite possible that the noise can mask the effects of man-made carbon dioxide for a period of time. However if the slope is zero for 17 years, then we cannot blame noise any more but we have to face the facts that we humans do not affect the climate to any great extent.”
Benjamin Santer et al.






WTF do you know about "bikes" FORTMENTAL? You're a complete failure at photoshopping and giving your Spouse any quality attention.

Besides, be original for once in your life would ya, sheeepstick


Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
“There is a lot of noise in the climate system and it is quite possible that the noise can mask the effects of man-made carbon dioxide for a period of time. However if the slope is zero for 17 years, then we cannot blame noise any more but we have to face the facts that we humans do not affect the climate to any great extent.”
Benjamin Santer et al.


Santer did not say that quote, gullible Chief has fallen for another hoax.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Damn FORTMENTAL! You've been busy with the googling AND photoshopping, boy.

Your spouse must of kicked you outta the house over the weekend or she just simply gave up on your pathetic sorry ass.

You are making me famous. The work is still rather old and needs updating. Most of them pics are at least ten years or older.

At least you are making me look young. The Wife is laughing her ass off at you and the time you are dedicating on me. She made a pretty accurate comment that you must be a closet homosexual and jerks off while doing all this photoshopping. Probably why your spouse beats your ass. She busted you doing the other night instead of doing her.



HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!



Nice catch Chiloe. That was from Dr. Robert G. Brown, Physics Department of Duke University (http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/) summation to Santer's following quote:

“Our results show that temperature records of at least 17 years in length are required for identifying human effects on global-mean tropospheric temperature.”
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:45pm PT

That was from Dr. Robert G. Brown, Physics Department of Duke University

Really? So your favorite blog can't even quote the right author for his blog posts?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
Had nothing to do with any blog.

But as Sketch posted.... ZERO WARMING in 17 years. No noise. Starting to look grim for the anthro feedback THEORY.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:47pm PT

Chief's trendline shows zero warming for 17 years.

Hmm.

Hmm, and the 6 other temperature records show a warming trend over the same time period. Cheery picking the data set to be able to make an invalid argument?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
LOL, why does the 'pause' start well above the green trend line?

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
Sketch

From the Abstract

[1] We compare global-scale changes in satellite estimates of the temperature of the lower troposphere (TLT) with model simulations of forced and unforced TLT changes. While previous work has focused on a single period of record, we select analysis timescales ranging from 10 to 32 years, and then compare all possible observed TLT trends on each timescale with corresponding multi-model distributions of forced and unforced trends. We use observed estimates of the signal component of TLT changes and model estimates of climate noise to calculate timescale-dependent signal-to-noise ratios (S/N). These ratios are small (less than 1) on the 10-year timescale, increasing to more than 3.9 for 32-year trends. This large change in S/N is primarily due to a decrease in the amplitude of internally generated variability with increasing trend length. Because of the pronounced effect of interannual noise on decadal trends, a multi-model ensemble of anthropogenically-forced simulations displays many 10-year periods with little warming. A single decade of observational TLT data is therefore inadequate for identifying a slowly evolving anthropogenic warming signal. Our results show that temperature records of at least 17 years in length are required for identifying human effects on global-mean tropospheric temperature.
B. D. Santer, C. Mears, C. Doutriaux, P. Caldwell, P. J. Gleckler, T. M. L. Wigley, S. Solomon, N. P. Gillett, D. Ivanova1, T. R. Karl, J. R. Lanzante, G. A. Meehl P. A. Stott8, K. E. Taylor1, P. W. Thorne, M. F. Wehner, F. J. Wentz

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2011JD016263/abstract

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
http://www.realclimate.org/images//hadcrut4.jpg



Nothing like more blogs there MONO!


And once again, your "graph" is completely outdated. Get with it would ya.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:55pm PT

Had nothing to do with any blog.

Sure, you just happened to came up with information that was posted today at you favorite blog. The author of the quote are different though.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
http://www.realclimate.org

Here's MONO's favorite daily blog. Must be yours as well huh Phooooole.



Blog that and this and everything else.


Tit for tat.



I think FORTMENTAL should start his own blog at how many times his spouse has busted his WMD making ass jerking off while while in the midst of his photoshopping ventures then subsequently beating his ass.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
If so, Chief, you should easily be able to disprove that graph.

But you don't even know how trend lines are constructed.

Credit: monolith
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:00pm PT

But as Sketch posted.... ZERO WARMING in 17 years. No noise. Starting to look grim for the anthro feedback THEORY.

It is nice to see that freethinkers like yourself are not easy to fool. The blog post that you took your information from even included 6 other data sets that show a warming but it was at the end of the post so you probably missed it.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Ya'll can't handle it...


NO WARMING IN 17 YEAR!







MONO, quite copying FORTS work.

OOOP.... gotta do it:


Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Do you know why 17 yrs is or is not important? 17 yr results are a bit different than 34yr.


monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
LOL, no warming from an extraordinary jump in warming.

A start well above the trend line.

raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
Why don't you post the second figure in your source instead?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
"extraordinary"

Based on what?

160 years.




funny and.....



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