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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 26, 2014 - 04:28pm PT
Norton, you never had an open mind on this subject. For you to make out like you are receptive to change of mind dependent on adequate proofs is a lie on your part , and yes cowardly to boot. Face it Norton , you are willing to sacrifice independence and integrity for acceptance by the herd

^^^^^

and THAT is your answer as to how the "data has errors, is manipulated" ???

Rick, you did not show the errors, instead, like a third grader, tried to insult me personally

weak, very weak Rick.....that all you got, childish insult?

apparently so, and now is when you man up and admit that you LIED

admit you are a LIAR, and admit there are NO "errors" in the data

do it, do it now or suffer the horrible consequences of, you know, being called dumb?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
The data , is rife with errors from adjustments, deletion of outliers not conducive to the narrative, infills in areas beyond coverage, incorrectly positioned stations, twisted interpretations of proxies , etc. Etc. You Norton apparently cant read, wont read, or have no comprehension of what you read. Which is it Norton? Don't project your own character on others . Quit lying about the flexability of your mind. I don't and never will dance to your tune .
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
"In other words, complete whackos who spout lies and fabrications about the science are given equal (or more) air time than the bona fide climate scientists who can actually back up what they claim with peer-reviewed papers."
Just like this thread.

Lies & fabrications ... that's what you get from "El Chapo"
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:22pm PT
Lies & fabrications ... that's what you get from "El Chapo"

If you're gonna bust on The Chief for his (presumed lack of) height, at least make in interesting and post more tit shots--that last one was pretty good!
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:24pm PT


why we have so many dunces
However, you have to realize that as far as gross evolutionary pressure is concerned; there is none anymore on the human race.

For example, in the old days, when we lived in the forests, there was enormous selection and pressures placed on us to develop a large brain, to understand how to use tools, to run, to be able to navigate, to survive in the forests. Enormous pressures on us because if you were not fit to live in the forest, you died.
WBraun

climber
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:28pm PT
Malemute -- "why we have so many dunces"


Because we have so many narrow minded narcissistic nutcases like Malemutes and Nortons
who chant all day SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE and have no clue how science really works.
WBraun

climber
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:32pm PT
Norton -- "Rick, you did not show the errors, instead, like a third grader, tried to insult me personally."

Norton deserves all insults because he only operates in turd grade ....
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
The data , is rife with errors from adjustments, deletion of outliers not conducive to the narrative, infills in areas beyond coverage, incorrectly positioned stations, twisted interpretations of proxies , etc. Etc. You Norton apparently cant read, wont read, or have no comprehension of what you read. Which is it Norton? Don't project your own character on others . Quit lying about the flexability of your mind. I don't and never will dance to your tune .

and once AGAIN, Rick Sumner resorts to personal insults

because what else can he do?

bottom line: He absolutely cannot point out ANY ERRORS in the "data"

yet continues to insist there are errors, somewhere, but does know where

weak, so very very weak.....Rick....bottom line is that you are a LIAR because you LIED

shame on you, you are suffering the consequences of being a childish LIAR
WBraun

climber
Feb 26, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
Norton always = Whiny little bitch ^^^^^
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
Sketch, is CNN (my second link) also not a trusted source?

So, Sketch, please; what is a news source you trust?


I don't want to find more articles that perfectly support my claim, only to have you say "not a trusted source."


BTW, the Media Matters story talks about much more than just Sunday talk shows. You might have know that had you taken 2 minutes to skim the article.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Feb 26, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
Norton I gather you are retired military or proudly seved at least. Once again, I posted reference to three papers from actual independent scientists pointing out errors in the collection, manipulation , and/or misuse of of data to bolster a narrative by IPCC of doom, sometimes by scientifically impossible processes. The Chief has patiently posted graph after graph and reference to papers likewise pointing out the Impossibility of CAGW, for years now. Have you not listened to Spencer, Lindzen, Christy, Pielke, Curry, Happer, Dyson, Salby and many , many other of the most learned people in the world on this subject? They all point out the errors and misuse of data. Their papers, presentations and articles have been posted again and again.. Back to your service of country, I assume you served honorably and at one time honored the blood and toil of generations before in establishing this great country that has accomplished more and was responsible for more personal freedoms than any nation before. You are an american, for you to now to cast yout lot with these globalist criminals and idiots that ridicule and seek to tear down the country of your birth is beyond comprehension.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Feb 26, 2014 - 06:20pm PT
Look at that slab of text.^^^^^^^^


Literally,since 1950 ,aye Sketch?

You have information that CO2 has not caused warming?

Is it accepted by 3% of scientists?

Or perhaps even a majority of lay people?

You guys are always RIGHT.



Norton is right ,Braun.

These guys talk out of the side of their mouths.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 26, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
The data , is rife with errors from adjustments, deletion of outliers not conducive to the narrative, infills in areas beyond coverage, incorrectly positioned stations, twisted interpretations of proxies , etc.

So it should be quite easy for you to show them, specific ones. Demonstrate one, any one, of these "errors from adjustments". You make this claim, and when asked to show them...any of them...you fail to do so, and simply repeat your prior claim.

The absolutely hilarious part is "twisted interpretations" and "incorrectly positioned stations" thus setting yourself up for an endless parade of "no not over there"...well where should we put it Rick? "F*#k if I know, but not anywhere it is now, or anywhere you ever propose for it to be, because then I couldn't continue to claim it's not in the right spot"

Comedy gold man, absolute gold. I think it's time to put down the hammer and walk away from the siding gig, Hollywood pays top cash for that kind of assclownery.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 26, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
The CNN story was fine. It did not confirm your claim.


Hmmm, the first two paragraphs of the CNN Story:

NN's senior media correspondent says journalists should not give air time to people who question the theory of global warming, arguing the evidence for climate change is conclusive and no longer open for debate.

"Let's begin with an important journalistic statement," Brian Stelter said Sunday on CNN's "Reliable Sources." "Some stories don't have two sides. Some stories are simply true. There's no necessity to give equal time to the 'other side.' One of these is climate change."


To me, this states that any air time given to the denier crowd is too much time.

I'd say this supports my claim nicely, while you say it does not. Please, tell me how it does not support my claim:

"In other words, complete whackos who spout lies and fabrications about the science are given equal (or more) air time than the bona fide climate scientists who can actually back up what they claim with peer-reviewed papers."




Sketch, now do some research for me. Find a non-right wing media outlet that denies AWG.

Surely this should be easy to do, since you are so set on proving me wrong.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
Sketch, you think yourself as smart, I can tell.

You throw out lines like this:

"You give me flack for not knowing about Media Matters' story was about more than Sunday morning shows, even though I covered the evening news."


Whoa, you covered the evening news. Smart boy, no doubt.


But I, with a simple Google search, can find pages upon pages of links supporting my claim. And from all manner of news sources (well, except conservative news sources).

Look, here's another quote:

Our research revealed that coverage in the New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times and Wall Street Journal over this period significantly diverged from widespread agreement by many climate science communities that humans play a part in climate change. We attributed this mismatch in part to a misapplication of the journalistic norm of “balanced reporting.” The findings we described in the piece gained traction in science, policy, media and the public.

See, I highlighted the part that supports my claim.

Took me about 30 seconds to find half-a dozen more articles that back me up.




Boy, will you look like a foolish fish out of water if you can't find even one news story that goes against my claim. You know, the thing where you said, "You're whining about something you just made up."



So put up, or wither away in disgrace.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Feb 26, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
Look on the last page at Sketch's post ( easy to read graphic from Legates 2013 courtesy of C. Monckton) of the bright red circle with 99.5% non consensus you ignorant hillbilly Capntheazzhole. There you will see the good humored righting of data falsely presented by Cook et al. Ditto Bruce Gay.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
I don't know of any media outlet that denies AWG.
    Sketch


Boy, where do you fill your Rx?

Bill O'Reilly not in media?? Fox News? WSJ? Washington Post?

Don't make me look up references.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Feb 26, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
Look on the last page at Sketch's post ( easy to read graphic from Legates 2013 courtesy of C. Monckton) of the bright red circle with 99.5% non consensus you ignorant hillbilly Capntheazzhole. There you will see the good humored righting of data falsely presented by Cook et al. Ditto Bruce Gay.

Pay attention, dumbass!

Again, old news. Kind drops a big old turd on your stupid claim.


Good move getting Chef to write your posts, he is the expert Scatologist in the house.

Peer reviewed dumbass!
Peer reviewed dumbass!
Credit: The Chef
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 26, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/02/26/if-all-you-see-1052/

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