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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:02am PT
PHDBOY:
The fukheads I'm talking about are idiots with little or no understanding of how the physical world works (science) who stand in the way of reasonable attempts to limit green house gas emissions and environmental pollution.

I get it. The majority of humanity that is actually doing the C02 emitting get a pass.

OK.

How do you plan on selling this agenda that has no viable solution to them billions that need the FF in order to survive as you state??

You and your lot have nothing to offer them all other than your plea to cease using any more FF's.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2013 - 10:05am PT
The Chief, You still do not get it nor will you ever.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:06am PT
I get it. The majority of humanity that is actually doing the C02 emitting get a pass.

Wow, you really are a complete fuking idiot. So far beyond stupid I would feel sorry for you if you weren't such a fukhead.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:07am PT
“The greatest threat to the alleviation of the structural poverty of the Third World is the continuing campaign by western governments, egged on by some climate scientists and green groups, to curb greenhouse gas emissions, primarily the CO2 from burning fossil fuels. To put a limit on the use of fossil fuels without adequate economically viable alternatives is to condemn the Third World to perpetual structural poverty.”
Deepak Lal, Professor Emeritus of International Development Studies at UCLA and Professor Emeritus of Political Economy at University College London, in his new book, Poverty and Progress: Realities and Myths About Global Poverty.


More like this PHDBOY!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions


CHINA has us beat by 2MILLION TONS.


They are the ones you need to convince.

China (ex.Macau, Hong Kong) 7,031,916
United States 5,461,014

Oh, and the EU, who just recently dropped any thought of a Carbon Taxation, well, they aint that far behind us.

European Union (27) 4,177,817

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2013 - 10:10am PT
The point is not whether you are right or wrong. It is how you are all delivering it.

The Chief is back to Step #3...



Here we go again. You can give hard science, and the deniers counter with bad science. You give an article that explains it in layman's terms, and you get "Rolling Stone as a creditable source?"

No matter how you present it, the walls are up and no ideas or thoughts can get in.

And then you have the nerve to call me arrogant! Holy molly.
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:12am PT
... like teaching a pig to sing...
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:14am PT
The first time man saw the whole Earth, and realized how fragile our ecosystem is.


This is intuitive. What happens then?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2013 - 10:16am PT
Good point The Chief. It takes energy to live at the "standard of living" we now have in many "first world" countries.


The problem is that our high living standard is killing us (and the other lifeforms on the planet).
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:20am PT
And Third World nations.

Southwest Asia as well as India.

You still have no viable alternatives.

The Chinese do not give a fk. They are implementing a new Coal Fired Energy Plant daily.

What do you have to change their minds..... nothing!

How much Chinese produced climbing gear do you have in your inventory KMAN??

Let's start with BD products???
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:22am PT
we could always THREATEN them with war ! ROFLMAO!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:22am PT
Chief Idiot, do you know what "per capita" means? Do you know the reasons China has higher CO2 emissions? Do you know how big of a fuking idiot you actually are?

BTW, from the CATO Institute, who published Deepak Lal's book the Chief Idiot referenced above:

Global warming is indeed real, and human activity has been a contributor since 1975.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:23am PT
And all them fancy computers you all White Coats are using.... CHINESE!


You PHDWESBOY are just as much a fukhead as the rest of us.


WESPHDBOY.. king hypocrite.



Here is your solution to the problem. We should all revert back to being cavemen:




Nice solution PHDBOY!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:28am PT
Cool! I found another neato movie Chuff starred in. Guess which character!

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:35am PT
they were ready to do anything to cease the impending Ice Age...

Weirdly I remember the global cooling discussion. Don't remember any drama.

DMT
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:35am PT
Hey Chief Big-Butt-Ox! Can you go back to Kentucky? Or did they ban you for making their state drop 37 IQ points?

And where's your buddy maddog?

MADDOG! Come Out! Come OUT! Wherever you are! Chief Little-Brane needs rescuing from his pummeling at the hands of evil, corrupt scientists!
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:39am PT
But DMT, The Chief is all about drama.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:40am PT
RDA -- Ophir creek dam, us395 1-2-97
RDA -- Ophir creek dam, us395 1-2-97
Credit: Ron Anderson


Hers my idea of Erosion work LOL! The "hundred year" flood of 97- SR 429 washoe valley and my "New Ophir creek damm"...
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:42am PT
Weirdly I remember the global cooling discussion. Don't remember any drama.

That is cus you were too busy trying to get your Middle School peepee wet.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:49am PT
haha, you seem to be obsessed with my recreational/volunteer work. Just to make sure you are up to speed, a successful RETAINING wall should RETAIN sediment and debris.

This year Utah has been experiencing significant flooding and debris flows. Here are a few pictures of the damage done to the trails, roads and culverts up Maple Canyon.

just up the drainage from my retaining wall
Credit: mechrist

culvert along the main road in the upper campground
Credit: mechrist

main road, lower campground. the debris extends about 200 yards down canyon.
Credit: mechrist


And here are my RETAINING walls, RETAINING plenty of large rocks and debris.

Credit: mechrist


And just to reiterate... you are a fuking idiot.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2013 - 11:04am PT
How much Chinese produced climbing gear do you have in your inventory KMAN??


The Chief, you're confusing the economic problems on our planet with the very real physical problem of abuse.


There's no business to be done on a dead planet. David Brower

Get it?


And why do you spell my name with all-caps, if not to insinuate you're yelling at me?
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