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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
Really, Chief, not one word on the 'hiatus'?


Those who have these data before their eyes can recognise immediately how misguided the big media attention for the “wiggles” of the curves towards the end has been. Short-term variations like this have always existed, and they always will.


The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Here are some interesting notes from the AR5 "Report" that are a reversal from the AR4's "projections".

In the Antarctic, a decrease in sea ice extent and volume is projected with low confidence for the end of the 21st century as global mean surface temperature rises. {12.4}

Increases in intense tropical cyclone activity Low confidence in long term (centennial) changes Virtually certain in North Atlantic since 1970
{2.6}Low confidence (i){10.6}Low confidence

Increases in intensity and/or duration of drought Low confidence on a global scale Likely changes in some regions (d){2.6}Low confidence {10.6}
Low confidence (g)

More to come as I find them.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
You missed one dipsh#t. This is the one most people in the west, especially those who like to eat food and drink water, should be looking to mitigate:

There is very high confidence that the extent of Northern Hemisphere snow cover has decreased since the mid-20th century (see Figure SPM.3). Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent decreased 1.6 [0.8 to 2.4] % per decade for March and April, and 11.7 [8.8 to 14.6] % per decade for June, over the 1967–2012 period. During this period, snow cover extent in the Northern Hemisphere did not show a statistically significant increase in any month. {4.5}

Yes, the Chuff will search the entire report for "low confidence" as soon as it is available and gleefully post them up here, despite being completely clueless as to what any of it means.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
Nope!

Searched for REVISIONS from the AR4 KidPhD!


Dah??


The ones I noted played heavily in the AR4 "Summary for Policy Makers". They now show a whole different story.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
KMAN, WTF is this then???




http://www.ipcc.ch/


You complete and utter dipshit loudmouth, know-nothing idiot. Go to the IPCC page that you yourself posted and READ it.

There you will find the following words:

The Final Draft of the Working Group I contribution to the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report will be available here on 30 September.

What was released today is the summary. 36 pages.


But go ahead and quote from the final release all you want. It is just one more drop in the bucket that shows how lame you really are.


Now kindly GFY.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Meanwhile,
President Obama continues to blame nonexistent CO2-driven climate warming for tornadoes, hurricanes, wildfires and droughts
that are occurring at the same level that
they always have been.

"We must take action now to prevent these natural disasters"


Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
floods? no problem, just build a wall around your house and buy a boat!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1388660/Mississippi-River-flooding-Residents-build-homemade-dams-saves-houses.html
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Now kindly GFY.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Now what was that about "Semantics" on YOUR part KMAN???


Works for you but not for those that DO NOT KISS your ass.

Got it.

The Summary for Policymakers

Is indeed what "Policy Makers" Globally will be looking at KMAN. This report is the one your PRESIDENT is already making comments related to future Policy Making.

Dah!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Sh#t, chuff nuts doesn't even know what he is quoting from! I can't believe we actually still respond to this dipsh#t.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
The Chief, he reached rock bottom, but managed to find a shovel and kept digging ...
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
What a way to live!


Ah, the Mississippi has been doing this for centuries. Remember!


How you and the rest conveniently forget.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
Ah, the denieosphere is just buzzing,I told you ,that you would not like it.The AR5.

Continue with the discrediting,do not worry, your blogs will keep up.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
Is indeed what "Policy Makers" Globally will be looking at KMAN. This report is the one your PRESIDENT is already making comments related to future Policy Making.


Right you are. He and his staff will be looking at both the summary, and at the full report (which they already have).

Hey, did you see this? This is what the President will be looking at:


STOCKHOLM, 27 September
-
Human influence on the climate system is clear. This is evident in most regions of the globe, a new assessment by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes. It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.

...

Warming in the climate system is unequivocal and since 1950 many changes have been observed throughout the climate system that are unprecedented over decades to millennia. Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any preceding decade since 1850, reports the Summary for Policymakers of the IPCC Working Group I assessment report, Climate Change 2013: the Physical Science Basis, approved on Friday by member governments of the IPCC in Stockholm, Sweden.

“Observations of changes in the climate system are based on multiple lines of independent evidence. Our assessment of the science finds that the atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amount of snow and ice has diminished, the global mean sea level has risen and the concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased,” said Qin Dahe, Co-Chair of IPCC Working Group I.

Thomas Stocker, the other Co-Chair of Working Group I said: "Continued emissions of greenhouse gases will cause further warming and changes in all components of the climate system. Limiting climate change will require substantial and sustained reductions of greenhouse gas emissions."

“Global surface temperature change for the end of the 21st century is projected to be likely to exceed 1.5°C relative to 1850 to 1900 in all but the lowest scenario considered, and likely to exceed 2°C for the two high scenarios,” said Co-Chair Thomas Stocker. “Heat waves are very likely to occur more frequently and last longer. As the Earth warms, we expect to see currently wet regions receiving more rainfall, and dry regions receiving less, although there will be exceptions,” he added.

...

“As the ocean warms, and glaciers and ice sheets reduce, global mean sea level will continue to rise, but at a faster rate than we have experienced over the past 40 years,” said Co-Chair Qin Dahe.

The report finds with high confidence that ocean warming dominates the increase in energy stored in the climate system, accounting for more than 90% of the energy accumulated between 1971 and 2010.


So you and your right-wing blogs can try to pick it apart all you want, but you gotta realize, you're arguing with physical science.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Can't wait to see how many of these we will see in the next 2-3 Years.

It has, however, recently come to our attention that a paragraph in the 938-page Working Group II contribution to the underlying assessment 2
refers to poorly substantiated estimates of rate of recession and date for the disappearance of Himalayan glaciers.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/presentations/himalaya-statement-20january2010.pdf
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
holy sh#t chief

a PARAGRAPH!

surely there must be more!

you must have found that in the Daily Koss, therefore a LIE
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
Just curious, when you guys search for this crap, is it a general search on climate change, or do you atively seek data that supports your POV?

Would you or do you take the time or bother to acknowledge research and data that conflicts with your opinion?

I mean, lets face it- the only point you all agree on is that not everything published is correct. Oops, probably not even that.

Its like when during an argument with my ex i claimed she shared similar traits with an ex girlfriend, after which the ex wife would not acknowlege the exgirlfriend as even human.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
The Chief, you pick a report that's almost four years old.

Why not talk about what's being released today?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
jonnyrig, I generally go with what 95+% of the climate scientists have to say.

Why should I put chips on the wing-nut fringe who are sponsored by those with deep fossil-fuel pockets?
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
Desperate times in climate alarmism


A more accurate description of all this Climate Armageddon storm and fury
would be another
(native American) Lakota phrase, tatonka chesli,
meaning “big bull excrement.”

Indeed, Australia’s newly elected Prime Minister, Tony Abbot, has said
claims that humans are causing dangerous climate change are “complete crap.”


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/26/desperate-times-in-climate-alarmism/




mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
hahahaaaa... 1 paragraph in a 900+ document didn't adhere to the strict standards... the mistake was acknowledged and corrected... god damn, this conspiracy runs deep!
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