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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Now, you want me to provide quotes???
yes, I do!
please, word for word
thanks!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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any insight on how that quote is coming along?
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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"If someone from the 1950s suddenly appeared today, what would be the most difficult thing to explain to them about life today?"
Answer: "I possess a device, in my pocket that is capable of accessing the entirety of information known to man, I use it to look at pictures of cats and get in arguments with strangers."
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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But now we have Barry's latest climate propaganda... sold to the public with alarming lies.
so no quote then...
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Colin Powell KNOWINGLY lied his ass off to the world. I saw it.
Good use of KNOWINGLY--those unknowing lies aren't nearly as significant.
Quibbling aside, who knows if Powell lied, or rather merely was a dupe, perhaps even a negligent one.
I'm not sure what role his complexion played in the affair--but I'm sure you can explain that to us simpletons. I suppose every black guy with some success probably should be president or something, and would be but for the evil machinations of Whitey.
Here's the deal:
Clinton and Kerry are as big of liars as the day is long, albeit their most humorous whoppers don't really have anything to do with current government policy.
Powell was demonstrably wrong about something that very much did affect government policy.
It's sort of apples and oranges.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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I thought my link would smoke the troglodytes out of their cave.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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But when you take a critical look at this energy source, all it does is heat water.
There are truly millions of other ways to heat water into steam that are Cheaper, Safer, produce no green house gases....
Heating water runs turbines; turbines generate electricity.
List the "truly millions of other ways to heat water" that are cheaper and produce no green house gases (the safety issue is another argument (thorium reactors anyone?)..
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Looks to me like all these weather cycles coincide with Solar minimum and maximum cycles.
Anyone feed those cycles into their data? It's a much more verifiable cycle that matches the data on the ground.
It's the sun, stupid....
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Interesting observation from Paul Roehl. The rest of you deluded nature denialists are dupes at best, Inept crooks at worst. Big hoopty-do about high traverse's shrunken Karakoram glaciers. Do you realize sir that the northwest passage was open for hundreds of years at the end of the holocene climate optimum, greenland was green and its sw coast ice free during the Viking habitation of the medieval warm period, alaskan glaciers receded past their current stand during the same MWP. And do you realize that the current record increase of antarctic ice more than exceeds the current shrinkage of mountain glaciers? Please don't be spouting the party line, grossly stupid, propaganda here dummies we've heard all the fallacies before. Take a cue from the esteemed scientists that used to habituate this thread- make yourselves scarce before embarrassing yourselves further.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Really, Dr. F, I'd encourage you to revisit the nuclear energy option in light of the ongoing ever increasing fossil fuel CO2 catastrophe. Please check out Pandora's Promise (twas playing on netflix not long ago). It's a shame this subject is dividing, and has divided, the left on something so important when really it shouldn't have to with more informed attention.
Those million ways, even a hundred ways, simply don't exist in the quantities this growing world of 7B demands.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2014 - 01:22am PT
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A recent fire and radiation release at New Mexico's Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) uranium repository has brought renewed focus on the problem of what to do with a growing stockpile of radioactive waste and spent fuel from commercial nuclear reactors.
The radiation release February 14, 2014, exposed at least 13 workers, after an alarm sounded and high levels of radiation were released from the underground repository in southeastern New Mexico, where nuclear waste from federal nuclear labs and weapons sites, along with discarded machinery, clothing and other radioactive waste is stored.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/22599-radiation-leak-at-new-mexico-nuclear-waste-storage-site-highlights-problems
March 24, 2014
This is just one of many stories about how we can't handle the waste.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2014 - 11:36am PT
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They could save so much money if only they listened to Sketch, The Chief, and Sumner.
Insurance industry leaders have declared it is now clear that insurers must begin formally including climate change in their calculation of future catastrophes to protect to protect their bottom-lines.
In a 41-page report released Thursday, Lloyd's of London—the oldest and largest insurance market in the world—warns, "Scientific research points conclusively to the existence of climate change driven by human activity," and therefore global warming must be included in "catastrophe modeling tools" moving forward.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/05/08-5
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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May 12, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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The deep oceans continue to gain heat. NOAA just updated the heat content time series through Jan-Mar 2014. Both 0-700m and 0-2000m indexes set new records, slightly above their old records which they set the previous quarter.
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Spitzer
climber
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May 12, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
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The deep oceans continue to gain heat. Chiloe, it looks like we're going to get an El Niño event of some magnitude. If it turns out to be a strong one is there reason to believe that this would result in releasing some of the stored ocean heat?
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