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Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 28, 2014 - 03:40pm PT
Thanks Chef. Keep up the good work

Fail beyond Fail.


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Whhooooooooooooooa!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! It is COOLING..
OK... so it's warming.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! It is COOLING..
OK... so it's warming.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 28, 2014 - 06:12pm PT
Fortmental:
I wish I had the time to better critically evaluate the methodology... but did they use satellite data to verify the interpolation, then use those factors to figure in the pre-satellite data?

Malemute:
More info would be greatly appreciated; I'm looking into drawing isobars on a region with 30 data points.

For best account of their methods, see the full Cowtan & Way 2013 paper -- open access, available here:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.2297/pdf

Briefly, as I understand it they used a rescaled version of the UAH satellite microwave data in constructing their "hybrid" time series (back to 1979) but not for the longer one back into the 1800s which kriged information from available measurements (not just weather stations on land). Over short distances (compared with reanalysis data) the kriging and hybrid methods perform similarly; over long distances the hybrid method works better over land, while kriging works better for sea surface temperatures. Air temperatures above snow and ice-covered seas behave more like air temperatures over land (because the air is insulated from marine effects). It's a well written and very interesting paper, with impressive amounts of thought and effort going into the validation steps.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 28, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
Shifting scales ... participated in a roundtable today on "Winter climate change & snowmobiling," which brought together a mixed group of scientists, land managers and snowmobile community leaders. The goal was to start a dialog and explore common ground. It succeeded at that, I think, as people left with new perspectives and some plans.

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 28, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
Snowmobiles?

Really???? LARRY?????????

Ah HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Follow the money, lol.

DMT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 28, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
Snowmobiles, me? That's what I said, but the organizers insisted, really nicely, so there I was. Doing much more listening than talking, as I should.

No money of course, pro bono.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:11pm PT


Chiloe,The snowmobilers are pissed over here.[no snow]
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
No money of course, pro bono.

That's what ALL the climate billionaires say, LARRY.

Nice.....

DMT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
Chiloe,The snowmobilers are pissed over here.[no snow]
I heard that from some of our folks as well. A little surprising because there was snow outside the window (Woodstock NH) but apparently not as much elsewhere and worsened by three rain events this season. One trail manager said he had 90 miles of which only 15 are open right now. Unlike ski areas, they've got no way to stockpile or make snow.

If winter climate change reduces the economic viability of snowmobiling, one problematic alternative could involve more ATV use.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
By this decision,we were suddenly thrown back in the evolution of humanism and culture to the stage of inquisition and books burning.


From BASE's link.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
^^^

That's hit number one today, WILBEER!

Got it.

DMT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 28, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
DMT,you are RIGHT,your RIGHT,you are always RIGHT.



It is just not the same.
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 28, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
The warmists said cold weather was a thing of the past. They were wrong.

Atlanta metro is grid locked tonight with millions of drivers spinning their wheels on ice slicked roads, bumper to bumper conditions everywhere.
State of Emergency declared.
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Jan 28, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
What do a gay scarecrow and Command Error have in common?










Neither can resist a straw man
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
The warmists said cold weather was a thing of the past.

Got a reference for that??


No, I didn't think so.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 28, 2014 - 08:41pm PT


http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/01/27/if-all-you-see-1023/
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 28, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 28, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
How true mono.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 28, 2014 - 09:32pm PT

who do you suppose this complete error guy is? I figure he's some three toothed hillbilly making 4 bucks a post ....

Cornshit Chomper.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 28, 2014 - 10:11pm PT

who do you suppose this complete error guy is? I figure he's some three toothed hillbilly making 4 bucks a post ....

Cornshit Chomper.

good placement, dirt

Mrs. Corniss was quite partial to pictures as opposed to reason..

maybe add Duhnold's famous cousin Skip Thompson to the mix?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
ENSO in the long run, nets out to very little of the warming.

You'll figure it out some time, or, er maybe not.
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