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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:11am PT
Bullsh#t, you keep forgetting the oceans.

The atmosphere absorbs only 2.3% of the heat. Ocean heat absorption/radiation cycles like ENSO will have a significant impact on atmosphere temps.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:14am PT
Chuff - you don't know sh#t about science but you clearly have an interest in ethics, the legitimacy of the opinion of Roy Spencer and various forms of hypocrisy......

Could you provide a reasoned alternative perspective to my above commentary?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:15am PT
So now you're gonna say that the oceans heat up due to the rise in atmospheric C02?

OR

Are you stating the surface temps are being absorbed naturally by the oceans as has been the case here on planet earth for a longass time.


Has what you describe below not been the natural stage for this occurrence the past 500+ Million years. Or is this something unique??
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:17am PT
The ocean and the atmosphere are both heating up due to CO2.

The ocean is the far bigger sink and it's variations will also impact atmosphere temps.

It's all a part of the natural cycle, until we did this:

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:19am PT
I wouldn't know BRUCKY.

I aint no Christian nor Evangelical.

The ocean heating up due to CO2.

And ENSO is cooling it.



There is the Hockey Stick!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:21am PT
Yep, ENSO causes wiggles on the upward atmospheric temp trend line.

ENSO surface energy is tiny compared to the capacity of the deep oceans.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Clearly, you are not very bright either.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:23am PT
Yep, ENSO causes wiggles on the upward atmospheric temp trend line.

ENSO energy is tiny compared to the capacity of the deep oceans



Busllshet! They have yet to eeeeeeeeeeven determine that. Too soon to tell dude.

They have even stated that if this "Hiatus" continues past 20 or so years, they will basically have to review and reconsider the natural forcing aspect component far deeper.

Read the paper.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:24am PT
Too soon to tell that you are not bright? Oh, I rather doubt that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:27am PT
You can see the impact of the largest recorded El-Nino ever, on ocean temps, by looking for the little blip around 1997/1998.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Too soon to tell that you are not bright? Oh, I rather doubt that.

Read the paper.

That is why the EU is asking questions and demanding the IPCC answer them

Also it is why many on your side are calling for a rewrite of the AR5. Damage control!!!


The AR5 clearly indicates that IT IS TOO SOON. Cus they really do not know what the hell is going on.

* The Modeling has completely failed. Never indicated the Hiatus.
* Temps have stalled and were not openly acknowledged doing so by the IPCC via the last two AR's
* ENSO (natural forcing) is playing a far greater role than was originally "anticipated" nor indicated by the modelling processes.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:34am PT
That is why the EU is asking questions and demanding the IPCC answer them


My point exactly. I demand that you provide answers - Dick
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:44am PT
. and showed many such "hiatus" events in the records...

What caused those "hiatus's" in the past record ED??


That is the issue at hand.

The Science is not one bit certain as to what is causing them. Nor did the models ever include those recorded factors into the process. It was never indicated on any of the 40 something models. Not one.

Why?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Funny story here.... appropriate too

When I was a kid I worked building houses with my brother, when I wasn't climbing. One day after a long spell of avoiding work I came slinking back expecting a job waiting for me. No such luck. My brother says " well you weren't around so we hired a new guy. His name is Dick and he says he knows you!"

I'm puzzled as I know no one of that name so I go see who the imposter is who stole my job. Much to my surprise its an old school chum, Richard!

I ask my brother " Why do you call him Dick? No one has ever called him anything other than Richard."

He laughs and says "Yeah thats what he wanted but it turns out he don't know dick - so we call him Dick!!"
WBraun

climber
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:54am PT
And you are worst then any dick ever, Bruce Kay.

Because you are nothing but a stupid know nothing aszhole stalker camped out on a thread humping some guys leg.

You are an absolutely fuking sick demented weirdo ......
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Models do show that long temp slowdowns are possible, they just can't give good timing yet.

I suggest you review this vid again, Chief, particularly at 1:24.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:57am PT
And as predicted like clock work we get Wernerized!!!!
WBraun

climber
Sep 12, 2013 - 11:59am PT
Just please go away Bruce.

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being ......
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 12, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
go away? Hell I was just thinking of doing my annual californication holliday.

Don't worry, I'll do my best to avoid crossing paths with you and The Dick
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 12, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Models do show that long temp slowdowns are possible, they just can't give good timing yet.

Bullshet!

The past 15 plus year hiatus was never indicated on the current 40 something models. Never!











That is one of the major obvious failures that the EU and other nations that are contributing money to the IPCC want to know about and are now very concerned as to the research process.

The house of cards is coming down. When that AR5 is officially released, shet is gonna hit the fan. Big time.
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