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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Ron, that post is an excellent illustration of your ignorance.

Most US workers have a commute of nearly 1 hour each day. Based on my driving in cities, I assume that is about 30 miles a day. Assuming a 250 day work year, that is 7500 miles. Assuming 30 mpg (likely higher than average), that is at least 250 gallons of gas a year per person. There are plenty of alternatives: biking, mass transit, car pooling, etc. Add to that the fact that most people drive a couple miles to the store and just about every other place imaginable (rather than walking or biking or taking public transportation).

Compare that to a road trip to a killer destination (not Dinosaur Rock) 10 hours away (20 hours total travel time), traveling at an average speed of 70 mph, in a "gas guzzler" worthy of living in that gets 20 mpg. The total fuel consumption is 70 gallons of gas. Or a trip to the "local" crag 30 miles each way, once a week, which would use 100 gallons of gas a year (assuming 30 mpg). Note: there ain't many public transportation options that service climbing areas.

The major problem is not weekly or yearly recreational trips. The problem is the basic infrastructure (personal vehicles, usually with 1 occupant) that our society relies on to get sheeple from one box where they sleep to another box where they earn a living.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
The Chief...I read that Interwest wants to buy white mt. estates for mammoth mt. employee housing...Looks like Rusty is going to be your new land lord...? Welcome to the burbs...Ha , ha...RJ
FörtMental

Social climber
Albuquerque
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
THAT'S where you live?

"....YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! NOTHING GROWS OUT HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW OUT HERE! .... you see this? This is sand! Yeah.... it's sand! You know what it's gonna be a hundred years from now? IT'S GONNA BE SAND!

YOU LIVE IN A FUKKING DESERT!

Get your kids and your sh#t and we're gonna make one trip, and take you to where the food is! WE HAVE DESERTS IN AMERICA... WE JUST DON'T LIVE IN THEM, ASS-HOLE!"

-Sam Kinison

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
The Chief...I read that Interwest wants to buy white mt. estates for mammoth mt. employee housing...Looks like Rusty is going to be your new land lord...? Welcome to the burbs...Ha , ha...RJ

The exact reason why the town of MML is such a shethole. Norons like you read and then fully believe everything they see in this only good to wipe your ass with shet paper periodical:

http://thesheetnews.com/


FRONTALOBOTOME:
YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! NOTHING GROWS OUT HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW OUT HERE


Do you even research things before you post your assinine bullshet? See that hill in the background? That is White Mtn dipshet.




KIDPHD:
The problem is the basic infrastructure (personal vehicles, usually with 1 occupant) that our society relies on to get sheeple from one box where they sleep to another box where they earn a living.

Just like you do on a daily basis. Got it.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
Buhda of stupid...I need a Chief to English dictionary to keep up with your slang...Noron...? Is that a 3-pin moron...? RJ
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
Negative. It is a moron with a brain but makes a daily commitment to not use it.

All cus they want desperately to pertain to "The Tribe".
FörtMental

Social climber
Albuquerque
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
The City aint the Natural World dipshet. But YOUR SCIENCE doesn't allow you to understand that.


Study: Urbanites are Greener than Suburbanites

Despite all of their perceived environmental problems, a recent study by the International Institute for Environment and Development has found that city dwellers generate far fewer CO2 emissions than folks who live in the suburbs or country. Of the 12 cities in Asia, North America, South America and Europe that were studied, researchers found that metropolitan areas had smaller carbon footprints than the countryside

Are city dwellers more green than Thoreau wannabes?

Henry David Thoreau is a hero to many traditional environmentalists. The idea of being self-sufficient among the natural world is a catchy one. But are the real environmentalists those who are actually living in the urban jungle? Edward Glaeser thinks so. In fact, he says in the Boston Globe today, “If you love nature, stay away from it. The best means of protecting the environment is to live in the heart of a city.” In a study, Glaeser, a Harvard economist, and author of the new book Triumph of the City, found that households living in communities of 10,000 or more people used an average of 687 gallons of gas per year, while households in communities of 1,000 or less used an average of 1,164 gallons. We estimated that a standardized household in Boston’s urban core emits about 6,700 fewer pounds of carbon dioxide per year due to driving habits than an equivalent suburban household. Certainly, when I moved from Cambridge to a woodsy suburb, I spent endless hours in my planet-polluting Subaru. The public transportation that is more common in cities does little to balance the scales. But it’s not only the car habits of urbanites that make cities greener. Cities use electricity much more efficiently than their suburban foes, he argues. There are also substantial electricity and home heating differences between cities and suburbs, mostly because suburbanites have bigger homes, even holding income and family size constant. After all, many people move to the suburbs precisely because they want a bigger home. On average, electricity use is 88 percent higher in single-family detached homes than in apartments in buildings with five or more units. All told, the standardized suburban household in the Boston area produces almost six tons more carbon dioxide per year than the standardized urban household. So what’s the best rule to live by if you want to be green? Glaeser: ”Living around trees is less green than living around concrete.”


Cities vs. suburbs: The next big green battle?

We are in a situation where we have an opposition party, essentially running the U.S. government, that is willing to say things like, “Climate change is a hoax.” It represents a minority of Americans. It’s completely beholden to big business and is very clearly using xenophobia, racism, and fear of change to block environmental, climate, transportation, and energy action. Basically, they are making this about, ‘Do you really want urban people destroying your way of life?’


Cities: Better for Green Living Than Suburbs

Suburban families use three times as much energy as urban families of the same size, according to researchers at the Brookings Institution. Visiting fellow Christopher Leinberger says more people would choose to live in more populated areas if housing was easier to come by.

Dear Chief;

Your idiocy continues to amaze. It truly does. There isn't anyone, not a single person on ST that's anywhere near as stupid as you are...ok, maybe Ron Anderson; he comes pretty close. It leaves me breathless! I'm in awe! You are a monument, the pyramids of Giza of stupid. Go ahead and accuse me of being childish and calling you names but YOU are the God of stupid. Muslim suicide bombers and the Libertarian Party pray every night that they should one day be as stupid as you. They're working hard at it, but you have reached Stupid Nirvana and are untouchable. You are the Buddha of Stupid and no mortal will EVER be as stupid as you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Problem is chuff asslicker, I don't commute to work in a personal vehicle that burns fossil fuel.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
"Problem is chuff asslicker, I don't commute to work in a personal vehicle that burns fossil fuel."



You don't produce anything anyone wants to buy, either. You could just not work, and nobody but you would even know the difference.
FörtMental

Social climber
Albuquerque
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Chief Butt-Nugg-Itt:

Tell us how you released your F-150 from greedy talons of "The Man"!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Nothing grows in the desert... according to FRONTALOBOTOME above.


Keep posting idiot. You are making things too easy for us Skeptics. Too easy.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
You don't produce anything anyone wants to buy, either. You could just not work, and nobody but you would even know the difference.

Uh, yeah, I guess you are correct... nobody really "buys" well educated kids these days. But idiots like you and chuffnuts make it pretty clear what would happen if I didn't do my job.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
PHDKID:
Problem is chuff asslicker, I don't commute to work in a personal vehicle that burns fossil fuel.

I forgot. Your newly acquired PhD allows you the ability to put rocks and sticks together in your backyard. Nice.


And here you are heading into town to visit your local Wal-Mart to get some twine for your highly exucated designed project:


Notice how WESCHRIST situ'd the trough behind the horse so he can collect the horses shet in order to mix it for his project and also burn it to boil his water and cook his chicken feed. That's a PhD for ya.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
I wouldn't pay him to pick my avocados.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
I grow my own avocados you douche nozzle.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
Yes, Chief, tell us all about the stuff that is naturally found in the desert.

How about starting with your lawn?

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Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
^ gonna be a ghost town in a few years
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
Is there a problem with my Lawn? (Taken three minutes ago) How about them trees all over. I have a total of 26 of em on my property alone. All are nice and green and very healthy btw.


MUTTSASS:
gonna be a ghost town in a few years

Really? This community has been here for over 37 years. The originating miners started utilizing this same location in 1908. Their aqueducts are all over. The Wells are fed via a source (privately owned btw) that is constant year round and the levels have NEVER dropped below 98%. Never. Them records go back some 80 or so years.

HAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA.


PhDWESWIZZKID:
I grow my own avocados you douche nozzle.

One bigass problem WESKID, just cus they were on your property when you got it, doesn't mean you know how to pick em.

By the look of things as how you are building your projects, I think it will take your PhD ass several years to actually learn the art of "picking" em before the local bird population eats em while still on the tree.

What wrong with my screen shots FRONTALOBOTOME??? I know.... all them green circles that indicate various agriculture operations IN THE DESERT. They make your posts look waaaaaaaaaay not credible. Got it.
FörtMental

Social climber
Albuquerque
Sep 2, 2013 - 02:57pm PT


Chief Big-Stoo-Pit:

That's a picture of suburbia.

BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
Really FRONTALOBOTOME.

Suburbs The usually residential region around a major city.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/suburb

The closest "major city" is 186 miles to the north. Carson City.

Did you say you have a college education? Niiiiiiiiiiice.

Please feel free to inspect the photo below and do indicate where the "major city" is located near the red circle that indicates the little so called "suburban desert" community which I reside in. Please.
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