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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
What's with the ED shouting, THE CHIEF????

I imagine your eyes BULGE OUT when you do that lol.

I wasn't aware forcing India, China and the USA to do anything at all, is part of the science of climate change.

But what do I know, I'm a hypocrite and not an egoless reincarnated mongol warri-heheheheheheheheehe-or, shitting white turds and living in harmony with nature like you.

DMT
dirtbag

climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
Reading Dingus' post just about made me shoot coffee through my nose laughing.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
Cigarettes were conceived, manufactured, and promoted without an assist from scientists.

Chock up another one for your ignorance.

Last time I checked, CHEMISTS are SCIENTISTS

Bulging... nope. Laughing...yes.

DMT
I wasn't aware forcing India, China and the USA to do anything at all, is part of the science of climate change.{/i]

The IPCC, CHILOE, DRF, EDH etal believe it is. The last 2 WR's were mostly concerning policies that need to be implemented globally for mitigation purposes.

Oh, maybe you didn't read that part. Figures. Just joining in to support your buds. Got it.


The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
Yur an idiot MONO.

The modern day cigs and tobacco products are all laced with chems designed by scientist to make them habit forming. Ammonia additives being the primary chemical.

Never "smoked" cigs. Never. Watched two of my uncles die of lung and throat cancer from them.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
I'll give Chief Running Mouth credit for one thing: he may be short, but he can gobble some mighty big turds.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
Smoking has been hazardous for 7000 years. No scientists needed.

Industry using science is the problem, not science itself.

Science was the primary source of learning about the terrible consequences of smoking. Do you give them credit for that?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
No where near as hazardous as when SCIENCE got into the mix of making em the last 75 or so years.


The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
Most of em are additives to make them 10 times more addictive than just plain untainted "Natural" tobacco.

Chemist/Science did that.

599 Chemicals, 4000 Possible Compounds In Cigarette Smoke

In 1994, the five major American tobacco companies submitted a list of chemical additives that are put into their cigarettes and other tobacco products. Although all of these chemicals are approved for use in food by the Food and Drug Administration, no studies have ever been done to determine the effects of these chemicals when they are ignited.

But there weren't just a few chemicals, there were-five hundred and ninety-nine of them. Because of the large number of additives, there are over four thousand chemical compounds that can be created by lighting a cigarette. Tobacco companies are not required to list their ingredients on cigarette packaging, and they do not have to disclose what chemicals are used or in what quantities they are used. While some of the chemicals were fairly innocent, like chamomile, dandelion root and thyme, some are pretty frightening. We're talking ammonia, ethyl alcohol and arsenic. They are presumably added to tobacco to make cigarettes more tasty and addictive.

Here is a short list of some of the worst ingredients than can be found in your cigarettes.

Ammonia is a household cleaner. It is put into cigarette because it changes the properties of nicotine, and makes cigarettes more addictive. It is generally approved by the FDA to keep bacteria out of packaged meats.

Naphthalene, more commonly referred to as Naphtha, is one of the main ingredients in moth balls, carpet cleaning solutions as well as napalm. You read that right. Napalm.
Benzene is also used for making rubber.

Acetanisole is used as a flavoring in food. It is made from the glandular secretion of the beaver.

Malitol is a chemical sweetener for diabetics.
Propyl acetate is a chemical solvent used because it smells like pears.
Sodium chloride is simple table salt added to cigarettes because of its preservative qualities.

Acrolein, nickel, cadmium (the same stuff in batteries), pyridine and catechol all cause respiratory illnesses when smoked. Cadmium can also cause kidney disease.
Some of the chemical compounds created by smoking a cigarette are even worse.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
what then, is NOT Science?

pooping?
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Aug 23, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Please do explain how "YOU" are going to do that, realistically, as the population continues to grow at the rate it currently does?

By supporting legislation aimed at reducing emissions. By pointing out the fallacies that profit-motivated corporations and their paid politicians use to manipulate the undereducated/misinformed sheep in who buy into their Fox-world. By supporting businesses that promote eco-friendly products and avoiding the opposite.

There is a story about a young lady walking along the beach picking up starfish and tossing them back into the ocean after a storm that flung thousands of them onto the beach. Someone came along and said, "what difference does it make; so many are going to die, you can't possibly save them all." She replied as she tossed another back, "Makes a difference to that one." We can't individually fix the problem, but every little bit we do serves to mitigate the damage being done. The more that participate, the larger the effect. Sorry you can't seem to make that connection.

Research performed in an unethical manner such that it produces a predefined result is quickly rejected by the peer review system. The investigators are castigated and lose their ability to secure gov't funding or publish in any journal worth its salt. That's why big tobacco isn't publishing those studies anymore and have to fund anti-smoking programs and print warning labels on their products.

Universities and research foundations are very tightly regulated and scrutinized for breaches of ethics and therefore do not tolerate shady science for fear of the penalties. That's why we can trust the opinions of scientists working in these ivory towers and reject those who don't have strong credentials. Like you.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
By supporting legislation aimed at reducing emissions. By pointing out the fallacies that profit-motivated corporations and their paid politicians use to manipulate the undereducated/misinformed sheep in who buy into their Fox-world. By supporting businesses that promote eco-friendly products and avoiding the opposite.

How are you going to reduce when the population is expanding and growing.

misinformed sheep
That would be most of the (Asia) Middle East, India, China, Africa. Billions.



Also, according to DMT, this is not part of CC. So why are you posting it.


No MONO, Supply and Demand.


No one forced the individuals to stick a cig in their mouths, light it and then inhale.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Aug 23, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
How are you going to reduce when the population is expanding and growing.

I know it's difficult for you to carry a thought from one line to the next when you're completely blinded by the Fox Illusion, but try and stick with me- by education, legislation, personal choices in concert with the increasing global awareness that something must be done.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
Fox?

Not.


education, legislation, personal choices in concert with the increasing global awareness that something must be done.

Try and stick with me on REALITY.

How are you planning on presenting all that to the billions of humans that ARE NOT RESIDING in the Bay Area and the United States.

All of Southwest Asia (Muslim World where OIL is the #1 Export/Revenue), China and India.

Please do tell.

69% plus of the FF C02 emitters on this planet DO NOT want anything to do with your UTOPIAN horseshet ideology. Your using their products daily just makes them that more stronger.***
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
oh lookie another sh#t show...chef is on a roll this week...
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
much as our ancestors were scientists because they theorized, or by accident figured out that a peeled banana was better tasting then eating with the skin on, scientific method

everything is then Science, everything including all mental analysis is Science, testing and confirming the validity of thoughts and plans of action is Science

what then, is NOT Science?

Norton gives me a boner..
FŲrtMental

Social climber
Albuquerque
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
I'll give Chief Running Mouth credit for one thing: he may be short, but he can gobble some mighty big turds.

nyuck, nyuck.......
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
Norton gives me a boner..

not sure but I take it as a compliment

regardless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdNS0B5dDdw
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
How's TOXO and her HUSBAND doing these days Mr SQUISHY.

Been doing any "interacting" with em lately???

Damn.

Shall I say more.

Try me dickhead SQUISHY. Just try me.


BTW: Are you now an official SO and on the Nation wide reporting list??
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
You are one strange, bitter person, The Chief.

What happened in your life that made you so poisonous?

Whatever it was, I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

It's time to let it go.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 23, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
Let go of what.

Just not gonna take yur guys bullshet hysteria.


Not bitter atal.

Not one bit.
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