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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 26, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2013/09/26/if-all-you-see-902/
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
The Chinese are cleaning up their act aren't they...

The Chinese government recently approved construction on nine of 40 large-scale plants that will convert coal into synthetic natural gas a process that produces seven times more greenhouse gas emissions than regular natural gas production, and uses as much as 100 times the water as shale gas extraction.

The environmental carnage doesn't stop at emissions: The plants will also gulp more than 200 million metric tons of water a year, far more than what is needed to produce regular natural gas. They will also release hydrogen sulfide and mercury, which are potentially toxic to humans.
http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-newest-environmental-disaster-154600907.html

And you sorry dudes are giving me, Ron and Rick shet.

Buckle up cus the Chinese are off and running on truly fking things up. All the while you type your hypocrisy on Chinese manu'd key boards and the words are transmitted through Chinese made PC's all manu'd with power from plants just like the ones above.

This all should extend their global lead in emitting more C02 into the atmosphere by an additional 25%.

How about all that BD gear you all use that is manu'd with that Chinese vile C02 emitting power.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
Please do tell what the difference is between your retirement when you finally get it and the one that I receive after supporting you and the gov't for 32 years of my life.


Thanks to the conservatives, there are very few jobs that offer retirement anymore (look at what they're trying to do to the USPS). So no The Chief, your retirement is very different from the one that I will (not) receive. Looks like your assumption about me is wrong yet one more time.

However, I bring up the point not to bash The Chief (or any other vet) for receiving retirement benefits. I bring it up to show the hypocracy of his rants, where he continually says the liberals want to suck off of the gov't tit, or that they look to the gov't to fix everything.

Most folks don't get a retirement package. They work, and get paid for their work, but beyond that they gotta save up for their retirement. Tell me why being a vet should qualify you otherwise, they get paid when they're working, right? Or, better yet, tell me why you don't think the gov't should be involved with anything, especially when you count on it for your livelihood.

The Chief's hypocrisy is never more blatant.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
Most folks don't get a retirement package...

That is due to their personal choice in life. Nothing more.

EVERYONE gets a retirement in this Nation when they reach 62. One of your Dem presidents saw to that. It is called Social Security. Something EVERYONE in this Nation pays into. You included. Remember that one KMAN!



I and the millions others like me chose to do what we did, endure the shet we did etc for 20 plus years to get the measly return on our investment. Many do not make it cus they get KILLED in the process.

BTW: Many of us "Retirees" (those, the "GANG OF THIEVES" you so elude to that I get together with at least once a week) look back at what we endured and realize we did not do it for sorry spoiled individuals such as you KMAN. Nope. We did it for and with those we served with. Nothing more.

KMAN
Tell me why being a vet should qualify you otherwise, they get paid when they're working, right?

The same exact reason that DR. James Hansen and Barbara Boxer get over $165K a year now for the rest of their lives.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 26, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
chief, you are wrong

no, not everyone gets social security

you have to have worked and paid in
You must have 10 years of work to qualify for Social Security benefits if you were born in 1929 or later. This translates into 40 credits, according to the Social Security Administration (SSA). If you do not earn enough credits, your credits will remain on account, but you won't earn any benefits. Instead, you may return to work to earn the credits you need to claim retirement benefits.

Significance
The Social Security retirement system is a government owned and operated system that collects money from workers and pays benefits at a later date. If you don't contribute to the system, you don't get any money from it.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Did you read my post NORTON.

EVERYONE gets a retirement in this Nation when they reach 62. One of your Dem presidents saw to that. It is called Social Security. Something EVERYONE in this Nation pays into. You included. Remember that one KMAN!

That was in reply to KMAN assuming that he is ..... WORKING. I hope that KMAN is working. Or is he one of them folks that made the choice to live on the streets and not work.


C'mon NORTON!


BTW: Every DOD Retiree that I know and associate with, took on a new career/job soon if not immediately after I/they Retired from the Military. Why? Cus the monthly allowance we recieve is barely min to pay 1/2 of our normal monthly expenses.

I just got informed last week that I will be paying an additional 10% (30%) Co-Pay into my Medical Deductable and my Dental Ins will go up 15% beginning 1 Jan 2014 of which I am responsible for 40% of in Co-Pay.

I have paid over $3800 in med bills and $1500 in dental bills this year so far. At the rate my med/dental expenses are adding up, I will have paid over 1/2 of my annual retirement allowances into those costs alone this year. Last year it was $76 shy of being so.
abrams

Sport climber
Sep 26, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
Anyone know how come you negative types are so gullible and believe
the Big Climate Lie without question?


You're certainly the same kind whose heads nod like bobble head dolls for
nazism in days long gone, and we all know how bad that ended.


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 26, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Rained last night. really cool today for Sept.


http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130926/NEWS/309260314

Looks like JTree season is starting a month early.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
Skeptimistic
FUUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on! I have family who lived (and died) as a direct result of NAZIsm and you sir....

One hell of an oxymoron there Doc. You begin to tell the dude to fk off then lead into showing him respect of some sorts.

You guys don't even know how to chew ass correctly. WTF? Don't they teach you all how to do that in PhD Higher Educational courses?

Talk about being MEAN!!!! Or at least making an attempt to.


Damn... Dick.

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 26, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
From our friend David Archibald,both climate scientist and oil company executive according to the hothead contingent, comes reiteration of predictions of an earlier paper of his. To preempt you wackos from attack I've included both a link to today's article and his inevitable takedown by the weather wacks Skeptical Science from the recent past.

http://freebeacon.com/climate-expert-warns-of-impending-global-cooling-crisis/

http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-archibald-overestimates-the-solar-influence-on-future-climate-change.html
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
REPOST Rick. Not working...


http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-archibald-overestimates-the-solar-influence-on-future-climate-change.html





Much more moisture coupled with a wobbling jet stream and to many other things we don't even know about yet .

Aint that the truth!!!

And of course this is the first time "EVER" that it has rained in September.

Right Rielyeupdoc?


"EVER"
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 26, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
Par for the course: Warmists confusing normal weather with climate.

And who is writing the crap the weather channel talking heads are reading?
Ridiculous garbage.

"Increasing climate change is damaging everyone and everything.
You're a victim already but are to stupid to notice.
Lucky you have us at the weather channel to tell you how
F'd you are unless you start paying huge carbon taxes!"
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2013 - 11:00pm PT
The Chief, I didn't bring up your gov't support for any other reason than to show you that you yourself rely on the gov't, even though you rant that we "libs want the gov't to solve all our problems."

Be clear, I'm not attacking your service or the fact that you receive a pension. I'm just pointing out that you relied on the gov't to take you safely into battle, and now to help support you after your service. Yet you turn around and tell us the gov't can't be trusted to solve other problems.


A new consciousness is developing which sees the earth as a single organism and recognizes that an organism at war with itself is doomed. We are one planet. One of the great revelations of the age of space exploration is the image of the earth finite and lonely, somehow vulnerable, bearing the entire human species through the oceans of space and time.

― Carl Sagan
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 26, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
Sorry- the skeptical science rebuttal was copied without error- must be a problem at their site. Here is another hysterical prediction of global cooling and references to a lot of other interesting articles of late. As we descend into winter it might be time for me to begin posting links from solar scientists with papers about low activity solar cycles we are entering and the inevitable cooling climate. Throw some logs on the fire, turn up your thermostats, it's the return of real winters.

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/uk-scientists-predict-global-cooling-after-record-arctic-ice-growth/
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Rick, to you, Bruce's post is most poignant:

So what are the parallels with AGW deniers aside from the obvious rejection of the institutional authority? Why [it's] the constant and obsessive seeking of legitimacy within the institutional authority of course. Top of the list is latching like a leech onto climate science contrarians like Lindzen, Spencer and Curry. Fair enough, surely they (all half dozen of them) at least understand the science.

Reasonable .... if you are capable of forgetting that the whole lot of them work within the system that is considered illegitimate, so why would their opinion be considered more pure than the others? By what devices do the deniers rate the opinions .... if the institutional process is not trusted to do its mandated job of judging the opinions?


In other words, it's funny that you latch onto the very few who claim Global Warming is not made by the hands of man, at the same time dismissing the hard science of the 95%+ majority.

Give it up.
dirtbag

climber
Sep 26, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
And illiterate. They all are, they are too arrogant to realize how truly illiterate they are.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 26, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
I am glad you guys and gals dislike these sources. If it bothers you it must be good. Please place all comments in the complaint box, thankyou.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 26, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Yet you turn around and tell us the gov't can't be trusted to solve other problems.

Be clear that there were many times we/I were led into battle by the PhD civ's making policy & battle decisions back home in the gov't that thought they had it right. Indeed, they didn't. On four occasions that I know of, they did not listen to and blatantly ignored real time info from us and directed us differently. Several very close friends and shipmates paid the ultimate price for them G-Peoples mistakes. That includes the UN.

I have a very bad taste in my mouth and will do so till the day I die for the UN.


On Oct 3 1993, the UN's (UNOSOM II) consistent piss poor decision making, or should I say lack of, greatly contributed to the deaths of some very dear friends of mine. Two of them being some of the most courageous and unselfish human beings I have had the honor to know and serve with.

On another note, the Gov't promised us many end game deals. In fact, we have had to fight tooth and nail to get some of those delivered. Many were just plain lies and conveniently shitcanned.

That is the only reason that I voted for Obama. Hoping he would restore some belief in the "Gov't" system for us Vets. He has... partially.

Bitter... damn right.

Am I apply my direct experience with the gov't in this issue?

Fking A ditty bag I am.



But I do not expect you to understand. Not one bit.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:00am PT
You just answered your own question Brewsky. Simple.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:50am PT
Ok. I'll bite.


Were you Brewski anywhere near Mog "Skinny" town on Oct 3, 1993
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