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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
PHDWIZKID:
But I do think the world would be a better place if others did what I do to minimize their CFP.

And what exactly do you do PHDKID to reduce your CFP?


WELBER:

You're moving cus you and the lady are splitting up?? Why?



Smoking cigs and on here crying shame on anyone that does not attune to your MMGA ideology.

Hmmmm.

Kinda like marching at an anti-war protest during the day, then going out at night and doing hit jobs for the mob.


WIZPHDERKID:
You live in a sick world man. You should seriously get some help.

You think it's a sick one now? Once again your little spoiled Ameriken kid mentality shines.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
cigs? Northern Lights is weed .HA.

Selling the house and downsizing more[read micro].Dont want to afford it either.

Oh,in case you did not know ,i build houses,i would like to profit from them.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
The pro CAGW science has been checked. It was found wanting by nature and many tens of thousands of scientists worldwide. There are vanishingly few of it's predictives that have actually come to pass. If this was any ordinary scientific hypothesis its many testing failures would have ejected it long ago to the dustbin of history. This is not a science, it is a religion that is attempting to enforce it's edicts upon the citizenry against their will and to their detriment.All the zealots pretty much sing the same tune- increased and senseless amounts of regulation that does nothing much for safety but lot's to add costs to end use products, renewable energy by not ready for prime time wind and solar that only work intermittently and have no storage system resulting in the need for coal, gas and nuclear plants on standby to pick up the slack, and behavioral modification through taxation. It's always the same.

There has been a lot of legitamate peer reviewed science done in increasing frequency over the last decade. Thousands of scientific papers have been or are in the publication pipeline. On Sept. 17 the NIPCC (Non Governmental Panel on Climate Change) will release its second asessment report-1200 pages of peer reviewed science and summary, that looks at the many natural mechanisms largely controlling the climate, by hundreds of established and well respected scientists working in climate science and/or fields related to it. The hothead warmists will do their best to ignore, marginalize, or demonize this selection of "solid science". But it is too late- the cat is out of the bag and a majority of the people worldwide have awoken to the fact that mainstream climate science is a scam for the perpetuation of big government and big business at the expense of the people. The good people sitting on the fence should look at this upcoming NIPCC report and the other solid science being done in the field.

cheers for blah blah- keep up the pressure of showing the unworkability of the pie in the sky ideas of the zealots.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
you're just bullying your way through here, with no redeeming quality. but this place was a lot better in your absence,

Shall I post up all the "BULLYING" towards all the "skeptics" that took place in my absence ED H?

Now that is truly one funny post ED H!

How bout these for starters ED H:

FORT:
I can finally live my life like you: in a trailer park surrounded by dead shiht!

RILEY:
No end to the irony of your stupidity...

FORT:
For fux sake..... really? Do you also wipe bits of Jonah Goldberg off your chin every morning?

FORT:
I'll guarantee that your cherry tomatoes have illegal alien fingerprints all over them. I hope they pissed in your salad, too.... you racist fukwad.

BRUCE:
BTW Rick, its really refreshing to see you letting your freak flag fly. It must feel good after all that posing as a science geek and I bet your wife likes it too!

FORT:
I was once like that too until I was 6 years old. Then you learn that the world is not what it seems. But these guys never learn that. Oh well, at least they don't have kids... most of 'em, anyway.

But they ED are on YOUR SIDE and it is totally acceptable.... right ED?

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
WELBER:

Please tell me you are not smoking a cigarette

Jesus H christ Chuff - nag much? always nagging about something. Stop smoking. Get off the grid. shitt in the woods like me. Weren't you nagging me about slandering the entire state of Kentucky? Now you have the nerve to claim superiority over the majority of the civilized world for their crime of being hooked up to the grid, city water and sewer? Man, if they all tried to emulate you the east side might get a little crowded and there might be a few less brookies in your favorite creeks.

Do you dress like somebodies mother too? Are you permanently on the rag? Do you have rollers in your hair? No wonder you live on in the desert. Nobody likes a nag man.... you may have noticed

But hey - if you ain't got science, I guess ya gotta nag!

The pro CAGW science has been checked. It was found wanting by nature and many tens of thousands of scientists worldwide.

No shitt rick? You can back up those numbers I take it?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
Bruceky
Now you have the nerve to claim superiority over the majority of the civilized world for their crime of being hooked up to the grid, city water and sewer?

Oh no way. Just total asswipe liberal Utopian hypocrites such as yourself that cry MMGA is real. Yet are doing absolutely nothing about it other than coming on here and acting like, well, like your asswipe hypocrite self.



Nice BRUCEKY.




See ya in the morning ED h and the rest of you hypocrites.


Keep firing them rounds RICK S, BLAH, RON, TGT....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:32pm PT

Shall I post up all the "BULLYING" towards all the "skeptics" that took place in my absence ED H?

It's true, the wind does drop out of their sails pretty quickly as they get beaten down like the stray curs they are. Gotta hand it to you, you do have a certain "presence", like a Romulan cloaking shield for all the other idiocy going on.

Did any of the bullying need special consideration though? It has been posted already. Or did some of your minions bitch more bitterly in their reports? Do share ;).
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
JEZBALL:
Romulan cloaking shield

Thanks for being honest with us on where your science expertise comes from.

Nice.

RIKEY:

You aint doing shet about it either. Not one thing, hypocrite.

Night...
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
OK,how do we not become hypocrites Cheif?

Do we degrade the science ,do we blame others ideology ?

How bout manning up? Take some responsibility.

Oh ,but i know the Chinese are not doing anything.

How about leading the way,just like climbing, someone has to follow.

We ,the U.S.A. SHOULD lead.

Divert subsides,grow the energy economy,become responsible.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
We vote for communist policies and politicians.
We vote to take your freedoms away !!


Its just too tempting. I mean I'm a capitalist but I'd vote commie just for the fun of it!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
Thanks for being honest with us on where your science expertise comes from.

Nice.

Where does it come from? I've just heard that as a phrase, so please enlighten me ;). Where, Mr. Science? And, if you'll hark back to the multitudes of times I've told your forgetful self, I'm not here for the science. Never claimed to be. Maybe commit that to a post-it note or something since you can't seem to retain facts? "Jebus not here for science. Likes to mock me/ball cupping band of numbnuts."

For sheer quantity of the stinky stuff, you can't be beat. OCD, chip the size of Mongolia on your tiny little shoulders, I don't know what it is, but you've got the turd fires fully stoked.

Quality. Mmmm... not so good. More like the Mickey D's of crackpots. Sure, it looks like a meal, fills your belly, but it really doesn't contain any of the good stuff.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Bruce somehow i think if you were a capitalist you would move away from communist B.C., maybe just a bit to Alberta.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 10, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
Rick - BC is capitalist as it gets. Alberta is RIGHT WING NEANDERTHAL.


Big difference


Anyway..... still working on those numbers for us?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:00am PT
I'm returning to AK tomorrow. Never was working on numbers- you must be thinking of somebody else. I do, however, have a large stack of papers, some of which are reconstructions of the medieval warm period and little ice age that your guys spent so much effort to smooth into non existence. I'll start posting links to these.

Yeah, you could mistake that little Hong Kong skyline of Vancouver as capitalist if you didn't know better.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:05am PT
You back on the sauce Jeexbah??? Seriously.


If so.. rethink the consequences. They make the hysteria of mmga look like, well, like "Romulan cloaking shield baby shet", seriously.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:07am PT
You reconstruct the medevial warm period all you want - god knows you must be good at renovations of all kinds by now. The numbers I'm talking about are the tens of thousands of climate scientists world wide who are rebelling.... lets call it the science spring or something. The IPCC can ruthlessly suppress them with sarin gas maybe.

Anyway, you were going to substantiate that claim of many thousands, before they get gassed.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:17am PT
Was I? Well i've done it before so why not again? See the link below of almost 32,000 american scientists- non believers, deniers, infidels.

http://www.petitionproject.org
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:25am PT
Oh that.... I thought you must have something new and earth shattering.

yawn.



Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project

Link to this page
The skeptic argument...
Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
The Petition Project features over 31,000 scientists signing the petition stating "there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere". (OISM)
What the science says...
Select a level... Basic Intermediate
The 'OISM petition' was signed by only a few climatologists.

There are several claims that large numbers of scientists do not agree with the theory of climate change, the best known of which is a petition organised by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (the OISM petition). This petition now appears to be signed by over 32,000 people with a BSc or higher qualification. The signatories agree with these statements:

The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate.
No evidence has ever been offered to support the first statement, and the second statement is in flat contradiction with the scientists who study climate change. There are also valid issues regarding the methodology:

The organisers have never revealed how many people they canvassed (so the response rate is unknown) nor have they revealed the sampling methodology, an ironic omission considering how much fuss is made about scientists being candid and making public their methods and data.
The petition is, in terms of climate change science, rather out of date.
In the professional field of climate science, the consensus is unequivocal: human activities are causing climate change and additional anthropogenic CO2 may cause great disruption to the climate.

32,000 Sounds Like A Lot
In fact, OISM signatories represent a tiny fraction (~0.3%) of all US science graduates (petition cards were only sent to individuals within the U.S)

According to figures from the US Department of Education Digest of Education Statistics: 2008, 10.6 million science graduates have gained qualifications consistent with the OISM polling criteria since the 1970-71 school year. 32,000 out of 10 million is not a very compelling figure, but a tiny minority - approximately 0.3 per cent.

There are many issues casting doubt on the validity of this petition. On investigation, attempts to undermine the scientific consensus on climate change often appear to have ideological roots, vested business interests or political sponsors. The claims made for the OISM petition do not withstand objective scrutiny, and the assertions made in the petition are not supported by evidence, data or scientific research.

Several studies conducted independently (Oreskes 2004, Oreskes 2007, Doran and Zimmerman (2009), Anderegg et al. (2010), Cook et. al., 2013) have shown that 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are causing the climate to change, and that anthropogenic greenhouse gases are causing global changes to the climate. These views form the scientific consensus on climate change.

Basic rebuttal written by GPWayne

Last updated on 1 August 2013 by gpwayne. View Archives
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:27am PT
You back on the sauce Jeexbah??? Seriously.

Nope.

As I thought, you pick out snippets, unable to make sense of the whole of what is written you. Like a Judge Wapner obsessed Rainman for the anti-environmentalists.

Boy! That pop culture analogy should keep you shaking your fists for hours!

I would credit your completely unhinged dip shittery on substance abuse in good turn, but I already know you are addicted to mainlining your own fragile ego.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 11, 2013 - 12:34am PT
Good to hear you Norton.
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