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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
MONOPROPAGANDA:
China is committed to reducing their aerosols because their people are demanding it.

Please do cite a viable CHINESE source for this nonsense.

Oh, please, no Skeptical Science bullshet.




SO much for your GCC negatively affecting crops etc.

According to a U.S. Department of Agriculture report released last week, farmers are poised to harvest the nation’s largest corn crop in history and the third largest soybean crop — a far cry from the disappointing yields produced by last year’s drought-ravaged fields.
http://www.suncommercial.com/news/article_6af6d88c-4f8b-552c-8df3-8bdfca827a62.html

and

http://www.agweb.com/article/power_hour__despite_problems_2013_corn_output_to_set_new_record/
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
Hilarious, Chief. Just ask the residents of Beijing and many other Chinese cities. They are demanding their government clean up the air.

Air pollution has gotten so bad that a study by the World Bank found that air pollution kills 750,000 people every year in China.[27] Amidst growing public concern, social unrest incidents are growing around the country. For example, in December 2011 the government suspended plans to expand a coal-fired power plant in the city of Haimen after 30,000 local residents staged a violent protest against it, on the grounds that "the coal-fired power plant was behind a rise in the number of local cancer patients, environmental pollution and a drop in the local fishermen's catch."[28]

In September 2011, the Chinese government's Ministry of Environmental Protection announced a new emission standard for thermal power plants, for NOx and mercury, and a tightening of SO2 and soot standards. New coal power plants have a set date of the beginning of 2012 and for old power plants by mid-2014. They must also abide by a new limit on mercury by beginning of 2015. It is estimated such measures could bring about a 70% reduction in NOx emissions from power plants.[33]

In 2012, industrial conglomerate China Wanxiang Holdings signed a $1.25 billion deal with American company GreatPoint Energy to build a large-scale plant using GreatPoint's catalytic hydromethanation process of coal gasification. The technology converts coal into natural gas and enables the recovery of contaminants in coal, petroleum coke and biomass as useful byproducts. Most importantly, nearly all of the CO2 produced in the process is captured as a pure stream suitable for sequestration or enhanced oil recovery.[34] The total project will cost an estimated $20 - 25 billion and will supply a trillion cubic feet of natural gas.[35] This represents a massive leap in the scale of domestic production for China, which last year produced only 107 billion cubic feet of natural gas.[36] The deal includes includes an equity investment of $420 million, the largest ever by a Chinese corporation into a venture-capital-funded U.S. company, according to industry tracker VentureSource.[34]
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
That warming ceased and reversed course, the shrill cries of the alarmists became louder, more desperate, and their wild predictions failed one after another. At that point the prudent thing to do is a bit of investigation. I did, i read of the many contrary opinions by many, many scientists. I along with many millions of other citizens saw through the scam and the reasons behind it


This precisely illustrates my point. Somehow you draw the conclusion that the warming has " ceased and reversed" when the only people concluding such are what amounts to a handful of contrarians within the field or people like you - the incompetent claiming competence. The vast institutional conclusions contradict yours and your only defence is a wild and completely unsubstantiated claim of worldwide agenda 21 conspiracy driven by a cabal of liberals, scientists and other Islamic communists.

The facts remain that you can neither substantiate your political claims or your scientific claims and here's the punch line......


You expect to be taken seriously!


Your whole claim for credibility rests entirely on you articulating a substantive case of your conspiracy claims. You fail completely in your scientific abilities so forget that. Lets hear the case for world wide subversion of the scientific process by nefarious political powers. Come on man. we know you can string sentences together so provide the case.....

Who's behind it - communists or Muslims? Or maybe Aliens? Enviro nazis? PETA? Dr Evil?

It could be any of these powerful entities but remember, by withholding all the evidence to substantiate this you are putting America in peril. You have a duty to reveal your enormous mountain of evidence. America is a nation of reason and logic, not rank rhetorical grandiosity. Prove your competence, don't just state it.

Oh I know- Its the homos! they're behind it all, as usual
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
Who's behind it - communists or Muslims? Or maybe Aliens? Enviro nazis? PETA? Dr Evil?

Bruce,

Go to your bathroom and look into this:


That's who.



Utopian Liberal freaks just like the one you see in that mirror.

Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
You can't reason with a 5 year old, no matter what their birth year is.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
In an effort to thwart climate change, im proposing a study for a govt grant of many millions. It is our theory that men FART more than women, at least in the audible varieties so therefore should, in the future when programs are in place, be charged more for their methane release taxes than females.

I will be in a climate controlled operations room, but what i need will be volunteers to participate in the testing room, which entails close proximity at all times to the anus regions of the test subjects in order to detect any SBDs that are beyond audio capabilities, via the use of olfactory sensing methods. The pay will be generous, according to the grant money received.

Im SURE this will be passed right through as an LLC, NOT FOR PROFIT and any other suffix i can think of.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Aug 25, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
I wield a lot of power now that I,m retired and can amuse myself with my new hobbies of global domination and monopolizing energy production, when it's raining anyway.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
Here's some free ammunition for wRONg and other on the opposition team. From News of the Weird:

British birdwatchers were especially excited by news earlier this year that a rare White-throated Needletail (the world's fastest flying bird) had been spotted on the U.K.'s Isles of Harris -- only the eighth such sighting in Britain in 170 years -- and ornithologists arranged for an expedition that attracted birdwatchers from around the world. A June report in the Daily Telegraph noted that about 80 people were on the scene when the bird appeared again, but then had to watch it fly straight toward the blades of a wind turbine. (As the event might be described by Monty Python, the bird thus joined the choir invisible, left this mortal coil, became an ex-White-throated Needletail.) [Daily Telegraph, 6-27-2013]
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
Old news Skep,, about a few thousand posts back or so...Yes it was an Ironic moment in time. We also discussed how many birds here were killed a year from the same. And the fact as it is often,, green aint so green..But THANKS fer the thought!;-)
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
Fewer but more intense is a problem too.

You are sooooooooooo full of SHET!

There were several "Recorded" Hurricanes that did far more damage than Sandy some 80-100 years ago. No where near the spike of C02.

The two below being the MOST deadliest.

1900: The Galveston Hurricane
Credit: NOAA

This hurricane was the deadliest weather disaster in U.S. history. It occurred before hurricanes and tropical storms were named and so is known instead by the place it hit.

Early on the evening of Sept. 8, 1900, a powerful Category 4 storm, with sustained winds of more than 130 mph (209 kph), roared ashore at Galveston, Texas.

1928: San Felipe-Okeechobee Hurricane
Credit: Herrington family/Florida Photographic Collection

This hurricane, the second deadliest in U.S. history, hit near Palm Beach, Fla., on Sept. 16, 1928.

The storm caused extensive destruction. The worst tragedy occurred at inland Lake Okeechobee in Florida, where the hurricane caused a lake surge of 6 to 9 feet (1.8 to 2.7 m) that inundated the surrounding area. The lake surge was the main cause of the 1,836 deaths in the area
http://www.livescience.com/37265-worst-hurricanes-america-hurricane-katrina.html


Had SANDY not been met with the INTENSE COLD LOW from the North, it would have been nothing.

SANDY itself was not an INTENSE Hurricane.

And it had NOTHING to do with GCC. NOTHING.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
Those are deadliest hurricanes, Chief. What an idiot.

Sandy wasn't called a superstorm for nothing.

We are able to give extensive evacuation warnings now.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
SANDY DEATHS: Fatalities 148 direct

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Duh, that's what I'm trying to tell ya Chief. Try to focus.

Deaths don't really mean much today with our forecasting abilities.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
What are you trying tell me braindead MONO.

That Sandy wasn't near as intense as the others that this nation experienced PRIOR to any of this AGW.

Thank you!



EDH

If that is the case, then we should welcome GCC.

We have yet to see ANY Huricanes this year. NONE!

As things are going, we may not see any. The Northern Atlantic Ocean is untypically cool this year. HMMMMMMMM.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
Does SuperStorm Sandy mean anything to you Chief?

It was a combination of events that worked together to form one of the largest financial loss storms in history.

2nd largest financial loss, with Katrina being the largest. Both early in the 21st century.

Yep, Bharata, NYC does not get a lot of damaging hurricanes.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:50pm PT
SANDY had absolutely NOTHING to do with GCC.

Just happened to be a PERFECT meeting of two intense LOW's.

A PERFECT STORM 100 YEAR STORM.

You are such a fking brainwashed Bay Area liberal Utopian tard for brains.



The GALVESTON HURRICANE did more HUMAN DAMAGE than any other in RECORDED HISTORY.

It occurred LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG before any of your AGW BULLSHET came along.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
And you are so positive about that? LOL.

The Alberta disaster this year was also a 'perfect storm' of events.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
Nor can you prove me wrong, EDH.


And you are so positive about that? LOL.

Just as positive as you MONOTARD.


Not one WEATHER INCIDENT this year or any other year can be proven to be caused by GCC. Not one.


Weather is NOT Climate. Remember tard.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Fallacy of logic....
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
Nor does it mean I am wrong. Does it now ED.


Fallacy of logic....


Now that is one oxymoron.

Like any other RELIGION, you believe only what you want to believe.

In your case, you believe the bullshet hysteria. Yet you continue to live your life business as usual.
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