TRIBAL RITE PHOTO ESSAY [pls start, finish & comment here]

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maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
Sep 8, 2005 - 04:47am PT
You seriously need to just get a frickin' website. Look, here's a cheap host: http://www.shieldhost.com/regular/budget.html?arg2=google&arg3=cheap+web+hosting
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 05:01am PT
I *had* a website, Kristin - I don't know what happened!

Theo?!
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Sep 8, 2005 - 07:49am PT
Nice! Great photos. Good story. Post more. Better than magazine articles (well maybe Largo's are exception). *Almost* makes me wish I knew how to do that aid and big wall stuff. Fortunately too old now to learn. :)

If you're gonna hang out all morning, maybe you should take laptop up with you and post from the wall, eh? Only kidding.

Super posting style - bye bye to the non-climbing threads. ST doesn't need to change the format. Just more PTPP style TRs.
Gunkie

climber
East Coast US
Sep 8, 2005 - 08:42am PT
Nice!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 09:25am PT
Thanks for the encouragement, guys and dolls. It's great to hear. I was up til nearly 5 a.m. getting it working on the forum here, and that was with all the text already written! It took me that long to get all the links working, and to re-upload the photos after I discovered that they all seem to have disappeared from the webspace I had.

I actually did get an offer a couple years ago from a guy who worked with Verizon to set me up with wireless internet service directly from the wall, but he had to renege when he discovered Verizon wasn't yet in Yosemite.

If anyone could help do that, I'd be happy to post live reports from my upcoming solo. I guess I'd need some sort of laptop battery or solar-powered charger setup.....
David

Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
Sep 8, 2005 - 09:32am PT
Thanks for taking the time to post that TR. Good stuff!

I agree with Mac though. I think you'd enjoy having your own site.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 09:39am PT
Thanks, David.

I actually do or did have my own website, as set up by Theo = Ahwahnee Bartender. It has a little forum that I had just begun working. I was in the very slow process of taking my posts from RC.com, rewriting them, and resubmitting them over there, along with photos spliced in as you see on this photo essay. Mike! Clelland had also drawn some really swell custom drawings which I had uploaded.

But the thing is, it's hugely time consuming. I wasn't about to open the website until I had the stuff in it working well. I'm trying to provide a high quality product, and I simply didn't have the time to work it. I had hoped to get busy at it during the winter, and still plan to, I'm just not sure what happened to it. It seems to have died in only the last few days, and I haven't heard from Theo yet to know why. He was legitimately wondering if I really planned to work it or not - especially since he had paid for it! - and last I heard we were going to keep it alive til I could get to do some serious work on it.

Theo, if you're out there in www-land somewhere, lemme know, eh? I *do* apologize to you, and also to Mike!, for not giving it the attention it deserves. But what little is there so far is pretty damn good.
PC LoadLetter What the...

Trad climber
Raleigh, NC
Sep 8, 2005 - 09:49am PT
Man, what a great TR. Thanks for taking the time to post something so rich and well done. Great photos as well!!

Shane
eddie7

Trad climber
London, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Sep 8, 2005 - 10:55am PT
Hey Pete.
That TR is the bomb, dude!
Nice work, eh?
cheers hoser.

Blaine P.
WBraun

climber
Sep 8, 2005 - 10:59am PT
Ok Pete

I looked at the whole thing and it's a lot of bivy shots with a lot of crap that you guys had to haul up there. My back hurts just thinking of hauling all that stuff, whew!

That rurp pitch way up high I thought was the best pitch on the climb. I did it with Dale Bard and we had a bagel for breakfast and a bagel for diner. I was starving! Dale doesn't eat on walls he just climbs and he bought all the food for the climb with some other guy who bailed on him. He pleaded with me to do the route after his partner bailed and told me they had a ton of food.

Yea right a ton of food!

Good job on your epic Trip report .... maybe go lighter on the bivy shots?
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 11:09am PT
Ha! Interesting perspective, Werner - that of the Starving Man. One hopes that in Dale's Journey from YB to OB he has learned that bringing food on a wall is actually OK, and really doesn't slow you down all that much.

Your other perspective is quite amusing, and rings true with me. Hell, yeah - there really are a lot of bivi shots, aren't there? This is because I tend to think of my ascents more as vertical camping trips than as rock climbs. Funny, eh?

But you're quite right, a few more climbing shots would be in order. Maybe I'll check through what I have, and see what I can find. It's the old story, though - you're busy climbing, and it's harder to take pictures. I did more of the leading than Tom, although he did his share, and since you're looking through my camera lens and not his, that's why there aren't as many climbing shots as I might have liked. And you're right, the RURP pitch is superb!

Note: One man's crap is another man's beer.
Brick

Social climber
SF, CA
Sep 8, 2005 - 11:13am PT
it's all good. except you need to climb with a girl. that way, all the suntanning pics will be of HER.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 11:14am PT
Now there is a damn fine idea if ever I have heard of one. Taking pictures of Tom's pasty white flesh is only slightly less revolting than taking the same of myself.
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Sep 8, 2005 - 11:17am PT
"I hate to say this, but your beer up there seriously sucks."

"Note: One man's crap is another man's beer."

"I see," said the blind man.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 11:22am PT
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!

Nobody in the Pacific time zone could have come up with such a good one so early in the morning!
elcap-pics

climber
Crestline CA
Sep 8, 2005 - 11:23am PT
Nice Pete... thanks for going to all the trouble. I enjoyed the pics and the story...
Tom
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 11:26am PT
Hey Tommy,

Thanks very much. Looking forward to seeing you next week, or whenever you're there. Apologies for not getting any of your usually superb pics in the photo essay, but I think the slides I got from you for Tribal Rite were taken when we were in kind of boring positions on the wall. I didn't see you down in the Meadows a lot when we were up there, so my guess is you weren't there for very many days.

However the photos you took of me on my solo of Eagle's Way were BRILLIANT, mate! Keep on clickin', eh? And watch for my Crab-O-Ledge on BUBS with any luck.
climber666madguy

Boulder climber
boulder (bro fest) co
Sep 8, 2005 - 11:42am PT
nice photos pete!

but...........aren't fire illegal up there? you are not doing a service by posting illegal climbing camping and fires at the base of El Cap.

anyway, nice job on the route.
ricardo

Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
Sep 8, 2005 - 12:22pm PT
that fire was not at the base of el cap .. it was on a ledge some hundreds of feet of the deck ..

.. great photos .. great tr pete
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Sep 8, 2005 - 12:36pm PT
i'd think it's an illegal fire in the wilderness, no mater how you slice it, and so is the fire on top if i am not mistaken (although these are assumptions, i could be wrong).

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ok, per ricardo's post below, i AM wrong, my mistake.
i'll leave the posts for posterity.
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that's great that people climb el cap and it's great when people climb el cap and post pictures for others to enjoy, but it's anything but great when climbers in yosemite don't take their impacts seriously.


individual environmental impacts are relatively simple to asses. some well intentioned people (and some climbers) ask themselves the flawed question, "what are the impacts associated with my actions". the proper question would be, "what are the impacts if everyone who uses the park behaves like this?".

obviously if everyone who climbed el cap (or for that matter- every route in yosemite) decided to have a fire on the bottom and at the top, we would create serious access issues. perhaps more importantly, we wouldn't deserve the access.


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others might not agree w/ me, but i think when you post a bunch of climbing shots where aspiring climbers will see them and get the idea that it's ok for everyone to have fires in yosemite where and whenever they want to, you are promoting bad behavior. i personally wish they would outlaw all campfires in the valley, as the air quality gets pretty nasty on some crowded weekends.
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apparently it's actually alright to do that.
i am surprised.
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