Quick draws, buy or build?

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TMarkert

Sport climber
Lansdale, PA
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 30, 2009 - 10:11pm PT
Been climbing for 6 - 8 months now. Have lead a few 8's and under in the gym where the draws are bolted to the wall..
I got a rope and ATC and am ordering a few slings and such.. Now I need Quick Draws..
I figure 10 will get me through most routes near me.
Is is cheaper to buy them made, or buy the webbing dogbone and biners seperate?
Someone else mentioned "tied super tape". What is this?

If you live near me and have extra draws or other equipment, I am more then willing to work barters.. I am a professional automotive technician and can do alot of work on the side!
slobmonster

Trad climber
berkeley, ca
Aug 30, 2009 - 10:15pm PT
Friend, if you were any closer I would happily trade you climbing gear for automotive work.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Aug 30, 2009 - 10:18pm PT
don't know anyone who can make a biner, but good luck.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Aug 30, 2009 - 10:24pm PT
I would suggest buying them already made, for sure. You can mix and match but sometimes draws and biners don't always match up. If you buy a set of 6 draws or more,you usually get a discount. Since your life depends on them, buying them new is always a good idea instead of used off Ebay or some such.
Big Piton

Trad climber
Ventura
Aug 30, 2009 - 10:44pm PT
If I read you’re posting right, the question is buy or make. If you are looking to save money. Tying some yourself is just fine. It wasn't to long ago when that's all we had. Super tape is around 5/8" wide webbing made out of spectra.
Buying sewn slings will give you thinner and slicker rack. This can be safer when you’re on the edge of placing or facing. I wouldn't look down on you on tying and would use your rack after I checked your knots.

Just don't do the stupid beginner things like, use flat webbing or tying the water knot with matching ends.
jfailing

Trad climber
A trailer park in the Sierras
Aug 30, 2009 - 10:51pm PT
Buy a 6-pack of already made draws (ie. BD, Metolius), then buy four spectra or dyneema slings (I like the Mammut ones), then some biners and voila, the best of both worlds.
Porkchop_express

Trad climber
the base of the Shawangunk Ridge
Aug 30, 2009 - 11:18pm PT
If climbing at the Gunks, avoid the pre-fab dog bone variety as they will

a) draw attention to you as a n00b
b) be quite useless as most routes require extending several or more gear placements
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise....
Aug 30, 2009 - 11:23pm PT
Most of my "draws" are long runners, tripled up.
Multiple use.
Sport climbers laugh at me.....and I, them.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 30, 2009 - 11:46pm PT
I usually use the 24" ones doubled (folks call them Trad Draws) and I have some short Wild Country Helium biner - draws that REI was almost giving away for $10 each. I like the different lengths. Fish has some nylon ones at a great price, they'll be lighter and stronger than those you tie, and you can't be tying dyneema/spectra, so might as well get the Fish ones he's selling very reasonable.

http://www.fishproducts.com/catalog/productlinefs.html
hoipolloi

climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
Aug 31, 2009 - 12:12am PT
i just saw some of those DMM Phantom draws with 12mm spectra (i think, it was the fatter stuff, not the really skinny stuff). They were pretty awesome, super light weight, really really nice carabiners.
Cpt0bvi0u5

Boulder climber
Merced CA
Aug 31, 2009 - 02:50am PT
As Skully said runners with 2 biners tripled up works well. Can use for sport, trad, aid.
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