newsflash: sport climbing is stupid

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Novice climber

Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 22, 2002 - 06:16pm PT

And why is it stupid? It just is. It means nothing. And don't start in with the "But it's sooo fun!" sh#t. I know it's fun--so is Playstation. But when you're trad climbing and you're at the crux 10 feet above your last gear, and you realize you have enough juice left to either put in another piece, or try the move--but not the juice to do both!--now that's climbing. Thank you for your time. Now, back to your crags.

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 06:20pm PT

you ever heard of "slacking?"

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 06:23pm PT

I think Playstation is stupid. Now Xbox. That's where it's at.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 06:31pm PT

Dude, trad climbing is stupid. It's too easy. That is why sport is around, so those of us who can climb way harder, will. Who cares about a f*#king 5.9 that you have to protect. Big deal. I can go do a 5.13 and not have to carry all that extra sh#t just to climb some 5.9.

Duh

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:02pm PT

Go climb a 5.11 trad route. Problably won't need much gear. Takes more sack than some 5.13 bolted job.

the dude

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:23pm PT

Donny's got it right. And the best sport climbing is gym climbing. I can rip off scads of 5.12's in a row without any problem, no approach, bathrooms are right there, soft landings and the holds are easier to find. Not only that, but the routes change all the time, so I don't even have to find new places. It's so stupid to lug all that crap up to some granite crag, I mean, you want to climb not hike, right? And then I can take my shirt off and the chicks (and dudes) wanna piece of my stuff. I often can't believe how cool I am. But one look in the mirror and I remember what a ballsy dude I am. I'd f*#k myself if I could.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:28pm PT

F*#k you

Copperhead

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:29pm PT

Video games are stupid and boring. Try driving your car like a psycho instead. It is much more fun and the consequences are REAL. No seat-belt allowed...

Climbing is climbing.

Copperhead

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:33pm PT

Very convincing response, Donny. Care to elaborate?

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:35pm PT

elaborate this copperass. Screw you.

dufas

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:43pm PT

thank you donny, for showing that sport climbing can enhance one's communication skills

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:45pm PT

dufas. your name fits you well you dumbass

Copperhead

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:51pm PT

This is funny!

Peace on Earth & Universal Understanding

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:56pm PT

Donny,

Clipping bolts on free climbs is for babies. Write back once your testicles descend.

POE&UU

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:58pm PT

most trad climbers cant climb 5.12 even in a gym much less 5.13 miss no testicles.

BringmeBeers

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 07:58pm PT

sport climbing sucks...trad climbing is for homos. nailing is where it's at. nail..swill..nail..swill...hook..swill..nail..swill..swill..swill..nail..swill..........
what could be more fun??

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 08:21pm PT

Maybe you suck you beer drinking bastard

Jim Bob

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 08:23pm PT

Donny, Just remember, trad climbing actually adds difficulty to the grade of a climb. There are both trad and sport leads up to a very high degree of difficulty, (5.13) and few would argue that placing gear on those routes doesn't add a degree of difficulty. Maybe you're just too wussy to place gear on routes at your limit. Or maybe you can't take the pain of difficult crack climbing?

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 08:32pm PT

Yea what do you climb jim bob? bales of hay and maybe chicken wire. Go back to your shitty farm you ass. You cant climb 5.13 outside or inside.

climb_hard

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 09:01pm PT

dude sport climbing is cool, but yeah trad is the best.

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 09:10pm PT

Dude. It's all fun. Bouldering, Sport, Trad, or just rambling around on easy 5th class. To put any one of these down is stupid. There is radicalness in all of them. They are just different.

bung

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 09:12pm PT

free soloing 4.15d's is the best thing.

Copperhead

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 09:18pm PT

Are you dyslexic or do you mean 5.0?

An armchair fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 09:19pm PT

Hey guys?

Doncha love it when you get a live one?

Donny is the BEST!!!!

It’s like stirring up an ant pile. All it takes is a little stick (or dick) and they are climbing (sic) all over themselves in anger.

Donny, please don’t ever change. You are the kind of as#@&%e that makes this forum so great.

bung

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 10:26pm PT

no no, i mean 4.14d's. you know, those burly ass dirt choss climbs in the rain when its 35 degrees outside.

mario

Novice climber

BOULDER

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2002 - 11:08pm PT

Why are sport climbers even on this website no that i care either way. For i climb both trad, sport and ice and find all three rewarding.

desk jockey

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 12:31am PT

mario,
you're a stud, what gym do you climb at? Can we hang out?

Copperhead

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 01:11am PT

Oh, OK, now I know what you mean. That's my favorite kind of climbing.

Isn't that like the move you have to do to get back to your Deli seat after joining the squirrels with #? in hand...?

Jolly Green Giant

Novice climber

The Valley

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 01:19am PT

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Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 01:30am PT

OK Jolly Jerk Off, thanks for that info!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 01:49am PT

No man. Listen to Jolly Green Giant. He's got the right idea.

bung

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 03:33am PT

c-head. thats basically the same thing. after 6 or 7 OE its really a challenge to get back on that chair. especially after expending all that effort to chase those dam varmants!

Intermediate climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 09:39am PT

Donny’s ability, or lack there of, to create a sentence in the English language, is a prime example of why he sport climbs. No thought required! His big decisions are: Where do I hang my draws on my harness? Which direction should my biner face while clipping? And what do I wear to show off the most muscle? The thought of Donny actually having to figure out what piece of gear to place, figuring out the best orientation, deciding if it should be extended, and if the rock is solid ( all things that quickly go through the mind of a trad climber )…is something that is most likely beyond his scope. So let’s easy up on Donny and be thankful that sport climbing exist for people like him.

Homage to Batso

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 10:22am PT

Like C-head said "climbing is climbing". What makes a climber? A climber is one who enjoys and is experienced at ALL aspects of his/her sport, not just one. Sport climbing is only one aspect of climbing. And Donny, you really seem to be a numbers guy! Lets see where that gets you when you get to the next bolt....and its been chopped because Mark wilford climbed your 5.13 on gear in 1989. Get real, get some experience, or head back to the gym and be like every other victim of the post 2000 vision that gym climbing should be brought outdoors (i.e. sportclimbing). Next thing you know, ol' Donny will be out there slapping some colored duct tape next to each hold on the sportclimb that he's top-roping.

Duh

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 10:53am PT

I for one am happy that Donny is a sport climber. I'd rather he be at the sport crags doing his thing than
in front of me on a trad climb.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 10:54am PT

Hey you guys are right. I am stupid. I think I'll try this trad climb thing. Anyone know where I can get those cams? or what a good first "trad" lead is?

dufas

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 11:41am PT

try chingando. It's easy at 5.10 and in the valley.

Mad Bolter

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 11:58am PT

If I start sportclimbing can I bolt everything I touch?

Fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 12:20pm PT

Guys, we got trolled. That last post is a “Fake Donny”.

The “Real D” would have called us f*#kers, sh#t heads or as#@&%es. Plus the “Fake D” used correct punctuation.

Be fun to see the “Real D” on a wide Valley crack, though.
He’d go crying back to mamma for sure.

I'm with 45

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 12:37pm PT

He nailed it. Hell, I even like hiking...

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 01:48pm PT

Hey fisherman your right the last Donny was not me. May be your not as dumb as your climbing skills. And db f*#k you and all of you who think trad is such a big deal. You all talk sh#t about gyms because your all to scared to go in there and hang on a sport 5.8.
And to duh, I would rather your not stareing at my ass anyway.

The Real Donnie

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 02:08pm PT

Stare at your bottom? I don't think so. I've got Marie to do. And yes I'm terribly scare to go "trad" climbing. It's too commiting, the falls too dangerous, the routes too long, and the gear is too heavy. I'm too much a wooly woofter to handle all that hard work. Besides I'd rather not scratch and brusie myself. No , no...don't think so.

Fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 02:26pm PT

Do y'all get the feeling Donnie is REALLY Paco?

He's just trying to stir things up..

Trad Guy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 02:30pm PT

True story. A few years ago I found myself at the campground near the base of Devils Tower with three sport climbers who were bragging about climbing 5.11 at their local indoor wall.

In the morning when they got their first sight of the tower one of them was so scared he wouldn't even climb, the other two would follow Durrance 5.6/7, if I would lead it.

I led them to the top doing a couple pitches without gear just to rub it in. They were happy to have summited the tower but one of them, knowing he would never use his shiney new gear, sold me about $500 worth of Camalots, stoppers, and biners for $80.

I love sportclimbers, they leave lots of booty when they bail.

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 03:06pm PT

Hey Donny...there is nothing wrong with climbing in a gym. In the off season I teach an intro to climbing class, stressing safety ( I would let any of my students belay me ), as well as technique classes. But the best part of teaching in a gym is being able to pro-deal gear! And with ice season just around the corner...gear get's a bit pricey. Ever try ice? You won't get to far with a handful of draws and spandex!

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 03:07pm PT

Ya right like 5.11 in a gym is a big deal anyways. So waht of they didnt no how to put in trad gear if they could they would have probably sent it faster then you. If your not just talking sh#t then they were liars and could not climb 5.11 sport. I guess fishterman is a dumbass

fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 03:18pm PT

yeaaa BOYS we caught a BIG'N

donnie is a fun one, but he's GOT to be a troll because NOBODY in real life could BE THIS STUPID

sand in the vaseline

Novice climber

San Francisco

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 03:23pm PT

Everyone on this board is so holier-than-thou. And all though it's all a load of shite, it did make me laugh.

Those of you who think you are better just because you climb trad exclusively are missing the boat. Why don't you screw trad and sport alike and free-solo everything? Then you really don't have to lug all that gear. Be like Bachar who resolved one summer not to tie into the rope at all.

Holier than bachar

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:11pm PT

Next summer I will not tie in at all. Nor will I stuff my feet into climbing shoes. Nor will I touch chalk. I will go all summer completely leashless with the remote, sending every summer re-run, including commercials. Ten grand to anyone who can follow me.

Brixey

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:16pm PT

Attack of the wooly woofters! AUGH!!

fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:26pm PT

Bacher has not been the subject of our admiration nor merciless slander on Supertopo yet. Does he merit a few choice opinions either way?

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:30pm PT

Fishermen go fish somewhere else. You dont know anything about me and you obviosly dont about climbing. When you can flash 5.13 in or out then talk you ass. I didnt start this someone else did. I only got in on it becaues some dumbass starts talking sh#t. If you dont like sport so what,I dont think trad is great so what.

Donnette

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:39pm PT

donny- f*#k off you f*#king f*#k. why is it that men need to prove themselves by the grade they climb? I think sport climbing men that have to trash on trad climbs have a serious penis size issue, like SMALL.translated boys, this means that if you have to spray about climbing 5.13 in a gym, your penis is about 3 inches. and bacher? dude, HASBEEN what the hell is he doing now? eh? any word?

Fishyman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:44pm PT

Donny,

I feel honored! You've called everybody else bad names (waa-waa I want my Mommy). Finally it is my turn.

But I stand by my original post. You are TOO DUMB to be real. You are a troller (if you were real, I'd have to berate your parents for raising such a supremely stupid child).

But I don’t have to climb 5.13 to have a valid opinion. And FYI, I kinda dig it all. Sport, trad, bouldering. Only thing I hate? Stupidity!! But you are not stupid~~ you are satire. Job well done.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 04:46pm PT

Whatever fishyman.
Donnette sounds like you need to get some

Duhnnie

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 05:01pm PT

Gym 5.13 tough guy? So...? (And no I can't climb 5.13 either on plastic or rock. I top out at respectable 5.11 gear routes.) But I'm glad you get off on sport climbing. STAY AWAY FROM TRAD CLIMBS You spandex wearing, bolt clipping shirt lifter!

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 05:50pm PT

All right, all right. I'm just a poor unemployed slob. I go into gyms all across California pretending to check them out to join and then I steal holds. I can only smuggle the small holds out, but I then glue them to the walls of the bridge I live under. That's where I train, and that how I can climb 5.13.

Fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 05:56pm PT

Stop it fake Donny. The real Donny swears and cannot spell.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 06:59pm PT

Dudes screw you. I dont even hang in California and I have a job. It sure pisses people off when you climb harder then them.

Donnette

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 07:04pm PT

oh donny, you poor sad slob. that was f*#king weak dude.

Dawn

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 07:42pm PT

The only thing worse than sport climbs are whiny sports climbers.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 07:49pm PT

At least you all are starting to admit your girls witch is exactly how I'm sure you all climb.

Dawn

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 08:00pm PT

Danny,

You're last post was incomprehensible. Oops. Sorry. Let me put it in words you understand. I dont no what you say last time, Dude.

Please explain.

Dawn

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 08:02pm PT

It’s contagious. Now I can’t speak or type. It’s Donny, not Danny. For all you out there named Danny, I apologize for the slight. No offence intended.

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 08:58pm PT

Sport climbers rank down there with boulderers and slackliners. Get a job and buy some gear!

Fishrmon

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2002 - 09:20pm PT

Donny. Enuff is enuff. All is forgiven if you just admit you are Paco.

Ryan

Novice climber

Dallas, Tx

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 12:13pm PT

this is the funniest thread ive seen in a while...I couldnt stop laughing at the remarks on here....

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 12:54pm PT

ya ryan theres a whole bunch of mrorons around here. If you climb sport everyone thinks there better then you.

Trad Guy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 12:59pm PT

Hey Donny, I was just laughing because I met some 5.11 indoor sport climbers who couldn't lead 5.6 in the real world. Trad climbing involves some degree of risk. Some people are up for that, some not. Its not about being better. Lighten up.

Duhnnie

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 01:42pm PT

I m light, thats why i spoort climb. i have no sak, and i need evrythin layed out fur me. "Oh theres a bolt, and there's sum chalk, that must be the way i go" . Its hard to speel incorectly.

Ryan

Intermediate climber

Dallas

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 02:00pm PT

Hey Donnie, there are morons everywhere you go...Get used to it my friend. Unfortunate for you though, ill have to include myself into your idea of a moron, because i am on the Trad guys side. Ive climbed some sport routes, but there just isnt anything like placing gear and being up on the big stone. Limiting yourself to nothing but sport climbing wont get you to the truly radical places on the earth...Youve pretty much limeted yourself to what you can climb. I on the other hand prefer trad, becuase the only limits are my abilities. The possibilities of the things i can climb are endless. If you want to limit yourself to plastic and overhanging sport routes, thats your call, but no way in hell am i going to place limits on myself like that.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 02:51pm PT

dude thanks for not being an ass when you have somehting to say. My experience with trad was that it was not hard enough so I stick with sport.I was second a bunch of times in boulder canyon and I thought was all pretty easy even at 5.10 thats why Im not into it any more

nip ring boy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 02:56pm PT

Bro go to the Valley and you'll find out that trad is stiff.
I climbed that Sacker Crack once and it was totally burdensome, and I had redpointed 14a in France a couple months earlier. Kinda sucks to have to carry all the gear, and not just focus on the moves, but Yosemite 5.10 is heavy.
nrb

Donnette

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 02:57pm PT

Dear as#@&%e,

yes, thank you for the compliment - I do climb like a girl - with grace, integrity, and f*#king sick hard (copy that puta?). fyi peniswrinkle, can lead trad harder than you can pull plastic (and no, I don't mean the one jammed up your a*#). please let me know if you need a translation into a language you might understand.

Donnette

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 03:12pm PT

donnette you seriously need some. Since peniswrinkles and ass jamming is on your mind I got some for you. But Im sure your looking as manly as alot of trad hos so maybe not.

crack head

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 03:27pm PT

this is awesome, i love laughing a domb asses

crack head

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 03:27pm PT

dumb*

Ryan

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 03:30pm PT

Donnie, you seem to be ripping into people for trashing sport climbers, but sounds more like your the one trashing trad climbers. In my opinion, there are only two types of climbers....Climbers and Sport climbers. You dont even need to add the Trad. Climbers climb because they enjoy it. It makes them feel good, It takes you to places where most dont get to go. Climbing makes an all around better person...Sport climbers on the other hand climb because they want to be good at something. Correction the best. They climb to show off their tallents (if you can call it that) and how hard they actually can climb. The good feeling comes from the fact that they are showing off their shirtless bodies to as many girls and guys that they can find...They constantly climb and look around to see who is watching them...To make sure that they are the top dog at the gym or the crag.

Climbers (TRAD) prefer to get away from the crowds of people and usually dont give a S#!T if anyone is watching them...They prefer to find a route that isnt congested in order to enjoy nature and enjoy the climb. When there are hords of people they usually turn and go somewhere else. Unlike the sport climbers who leave their quick draws on a route and piss on people who dont climb quite as well as they do.

Trad Guy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 04:15pm PT

Yeah, Ryan!!!

george

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 04:38pm PT

is an aid climber a trad climber or a sport climber? and what the hell is sport aiding?
just curious.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 05:08pm PT

dude trad guys are always taking thier shirts off and lots of chicks are always showing alot of skin when they climb no matter what style. I dont go shirtless in the guym except for some days in summer. I just think that hard sport pushes your climbing skills more then trad and I think thats what climbing is all about. If you want to go someplace cool you can hike there so I like hard sport and ya I do like to climb better. So I think I push harder,witch is why I rather climb a hard sport 5.13 then any 5.8 or 5.9 trad.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 05:29pm PT

plus ryan speaking of >>usually dont give a S#!T if anyone is watching them>> look you have your own little cheerleader name, tradguy

Sam

Novice climber

Yosemite

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 06:08pm PT

Hey this Donny is a real kick! Since it's so easy why doesn't he go up and fire the Nose all free, after all there are no hard trad climbs. Since Donny writes like he is quite young I wonder if he has ever heard of Lynn Hill or Ron Kauk. They place pro red pointing hard 13's and clip bolts red pointing 14's. Lynn even ran it out a long ways on the Great Roof on her one day free ascent of the Nose so maybe she has more sack than any guy. The best part is that they are probably old enough to be his parents. Good luck Donny but with your attitude I doubt you will ever catch them!

jim bob

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 06:23pm PT

I hope donny falls and his sack catches on the draw that's by his knee.

Mike

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 06:28pm PT

The most stupid, moronic, etc. aspect of this topic is defining any activity people enjoy as "stupid." An activity may seem stupid if a person doesn't like it, but it's simply is what it is. If a person likes simplicity, relative safety and pure gymnastic activity in his/her climbing, sport climbing is a great way to achieve it. I don't relish sport climbing, but I can understand its appeal.

Maybe some people take offense at something they like being called "stupid" because they think the definition is referencing them personally. (?)

I can absolutely see why any non-climber could call all forms of climbing "stupid". Hell, Batso was probably right...

Peace everybody.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 06:40pm PT

dream on jim bob because I dont fall much and at least I got one, Go back to red pointing your goats dude

jim bob

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 06:46pm PT

I actually submitted the beta for one of my "hardest" goats to supertopo, I just hope it'll get a second.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 07:09pm PT

Well you all can talk all sh#t you want about sport because I will be out doing it for 3 days while most of you will be playing computers. so when I send 5.14 some of you suckasses can only wish. Like donette and dawn (the same person I think, and jimbob.

Donnette

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 07:22pm PT

sorry wrinkle, not the same, looks like more than one hard chick out there. you only wished I was manly looking so you wouldn't miss your little brother so much, eh? Its okay, I understand you are deprived. I was wondering if your hands have EVER been inside of a splitter? probably not, because you would need GEAR and the last time I checked, draws don't work too well as passive pro. oh, sorry, protection, I forgot, you are challenged.

Sumdood Hoozrad

Intermediate climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 07:28pm PT

Donny,

Your invective aside, I'm with ya. Though I much prefer trad, I love the fact that there are several facets of climbing. Pick the one that suits you, who cares what anybody thinks/says.

fisty McRacist

Novice climber

palestine

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 07:44pm PT

Donnette, you make my ice axe hum. I dig hard chicks. Can I fist you?

woman in the meadow

Advanced climber

first bolt/controlled hysteria

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 07:49pm PT

you guys are meanies. sport climbing is fun and not everybody gets off on objective danger. why not live and let live a little? we're not that different afterall you know.

Donnette

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 08:00pm PT

you wish

Jolly Green Giant

Novice climber

The Valley

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 08:45pm PT

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Fresh vegetables suffer during storage
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"What we learned in the study was that when vegetables are canned or frozen, the nutrients are 'locked in,'" says Barbara Klein, the principal investigator on the research team. Processing, or the initial heating step, results in a small loss of nutrients. Once that's finished, there's no further change in nutrient content over the shelf life of frozen and canned vegetables. In contrast, fresh vegetables from the supermarket steadily lose nutrients from the time of harvest until they are purchased and brought home, usually about two weeks later. Nutrients continue to diminish during home storage, which can be a week or more and, in the case of some vegetables like carrots, much longer.

We don't eat enough vegetables
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In another study, also conducted for Green Giant, the Opinion Research Corporation of Princeton, N.J., found that 65 percent of those surveyed say they eat only one or two servings of vegetables daily, in contrast to the three to five daily servings recommended in the Food Guide Pyramid. Some 37 percent of those surveyed said they don't eat more vegetables because they don't have time, or that vegetables require to much effort to prepare.

Sumdood Hoozrad

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 09:43pm PT

Lemme guess..JGG is trying to tell us this thread is too long

jim bob

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 09:52pm PT

donny:
I think sport climbing is easier than trad climbing, and that's why I like trad climbing. Don't blame the "style" of climbing when you can't push yourself on a trad route. The problem with your "logic" is simple:
You thought trad was easy because you were on easy routes. You think sport is hard because you climb hard routes when you sport climb.
Why don't you go try a hard trad route?

Fatkid

Advanced climber

My Mama

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2002 - 10:12pm PT

Hey fisty McRacist;

I'd let you fist me, just as long as you kissed me first

fishMn

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 08:22am PT

congrats kids, we hit the big 1- OH -OH again..

thanks to you Donny, you festering cunt

dufas

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 11:57am PT

jose canseco is a better person that Ghandi because jose hit more home runs

Fisty

Novice climber

palestine

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 12:21pm PT

Donny, I figured it out. You're trolling for a good old fashioned ham pounding. Let's meet at some grid-bolted, paved-belay, 25 ft high 'extreme' sport crag, slather each other up with mayonaise and keopectate and see if I can fully extend a #4 camalot in your cornhole. C'mon sizzle chest, I know your type.

Fisty

Novice climber

israel

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 12:23pm PT

ps, FatKid, if you've finally hit your 300 lb benchmark, you're invited to Donny's 'rectum, damn near killed 'em' festival.

Fatkid

Advanced climber

My Mama

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 12:29pm PT

Hey fisty

Do you fist before an onsite?
Also, do you kiss your wrist before a self fist?

Thanks

Fatkid

Advanced climber

My Mama

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 12:46pm PT

I failed to hit the mark, so no party for me.
I am still a firm believer of training heavy.

The weather is getting a little dank out here
but I think with a little sunshine in my heart
I will send my new project.

Watcher

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 01:02pm PT

Has this always been a porn site?

Fisty

Novice climber

jerusalem

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 01:40pm PT

Chubby,

If clipping bolts, I often give myself a swift haymaker prior to sending. It helps promote a wider stem in corners.

If leading on gear, I just have a beer instead.

dork

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 02:17pm PT

hey donny, how many times you hang on that 14a you're working on? make two moves, make a clip, hang. Wow, sounds like fun. do you get to pose when you're hanging with your package sticking out of your harness?

Advanced climber

Whistler

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2002 - 02:54pm PT

Hey guys, trad or sport it's all fun. I just sent my last 14 of the season (Piss Clam -14a) at Chek near squamish and even though it's a sport route, i did it on gear. Either way, it was way rad. I just love climbing, no matter what type. This is the way of the future dudes - doing old aid routes free, like me.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 01:16pm PT

Some as#@&%es have been pretening there me. I didnt type anything because I was gone CLIMBING and I didt have a computer so f*#k all of you who tried. my last posts was this >Oct 24, 2002 -- 04:09pm>> . Also I never said anything on any other topics only this one so who ever that was f*#k off. ya dork I did hang ONCE on 5.14 and no way you could make the 1st move you ass.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 04:20pm PT

f*#k you dumbass when you grow up try a new name

dork

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 05:46pm PT

yeah donny, I wouldn't make it up 10 feet on a 14. but I'd fall on my feet and laugh about it. you, however, would sketch on "easy" 5.10 terrain about 40 feet out from your piece with a ledge fall, slip and break your ass bone and more.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 07:08pm PT

I dont sketch on 5.10 dude maybe you do.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 07:26pm PT

yo, may be read the whole thing. To find out that I dont think 5.10 is hard or you would know I climb above 5.13 alot.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 08:00pm PT

look dumbass your missing the point. Ya I remember starting on 5.7 and 5.8 so why woiuld I want to go climb that again when it is easy now? why do you think I climb bigger numbers its not hard to figur out. You call me stupid but your stupid if you cant follow anything.My guess is your a shitty climber so you take it hard when you know you will never ever be as good as others like me, so waht I know I will never be the best in the world also.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 08:11pm PT

5.15 is way sick dude I never said 5.14 is easy ( Ive only done one ) and so now Im mostly hitting 5.13 c and d sport. ya I like the climb thats why I do it but the numbers tell how hard thats all. plus its cool to climb that hard if every one else did they would say it to

dork

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2002 - 08:40pm PT

obviously not the real donny

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 01:42pm PT

No dude it was me I wont talk sh#t about people when they dont talk sh#t about me. that one dude should cahnge his name thats not cool.

...

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 01:57pm PT

donny..

you are a capable climber...
where do you climb. rifle? mt charleston?

why not share with us who you are?

yea we are all fat nobodies (well, me at least
so kinda cool to coorespond with a hottie

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 02:39pm PT

I sport in boulder canyon mostly,some rifle. a hottie is a chick dude witch Im not.

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 04:52pm PT

"yo, may be read the whole thing. To find out that I dont think 5.10 is hard or you would know I climb above 5.13 alot." I started this whole party, you attention-deprived little dumbsh#t.

...

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 05:04pm PT

well, we all know that Rifle ratings are seriously over-blown (a Rifle 13a = valley wide crack 5.9

and? we also all know that climbers from Boulder are fudge packers. Nuff said.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 05:13pm PT

screw you nameless coward and yo learn how to read then. Then you dont need to ask stuff thats already been said

Donnette

Advanced climber

certainly not Boulder

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 07:49pm PT

boulder? that explains EVERYTHING. Dude, do you pimp at the bars with your hirsute chest all a-glory, trying to score chicks? or are you a REAL climber (read thread: you know its bad when..) and NO, I don't need 'some' don't go there, and f*#k you fisty.

...

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2002 - 09:14pm PT

hey Donni

if you have any balls, you will tell us your name so that we can read about all your 14b's in the basecamp section of climbing

but i think if you pulled down those tutti-frutti colored lyrca tights, we'd find a pussy between your legs

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 02:26pm PT

ya you wish dumbass. When you climb 5.14 you can hang where I do until then stick wiht your 5.8 trad.

homunculus

Novice climber

right behind Donny

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 03:38pm PT

Donny does sportclimb 5.13. Fluff Boy is named in honor of his hours of community service in the Wicked cave. Donny helps the hardmen of Rifle stay hard. We all love thse tight little lips of his..Both sets.

Things just aren't the same at Rifle when Donny is flufffing the Boulder canyon boys. We miss you Donny. Please come, homo.

zach romero

Intermediate climber

So.Cal.

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 04:35pm PT

DONNY,
YOUR A STUPID F*#K.THE REASON MOST PEOPLE DONT LIKE SPORT CLIMING IS BECAUSE OF THE ASSHOLES WHO CLIMB IT(YOU BEING ONE OF THEM).WHO CARES THAT YOU CAN CLIMB 5.14 SPORT.THATS PUSSY SH#T.ID RATHER LEAD A 5.11 TRAD ROUTE ONSIGHT THAN HANG ALL OVER A 5.14 FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME.SPORT CLIMBING IS A WASTE OF TIME.YOU SAY YOU DONT LIKE TRAD BECAUSE ITS TOO EASY,YOUR FULL OF SH#T.GET ON A TRAD ROUTE AT YOUR SPORT CLIMBING LIMIT AND SEE WHATS UP THEN.YOUR GOING TO GET F*#KING SPANKED.GUARANTEED.SO F*#K YOU!

eloso

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 05:32pm PT

idon'tmindworryfollowingmelikeadinosaur
idon'tfeeliamdescendingintothemoltencore
sofarihavenotfoundthescience
sofarihavenotfoundthescience
butthenumberskeeponcirclingme
yesthenumberskeeponcirclingme
gonnagetanewbone
gonnagetatighttensionon
yabetterslipitupuntiltherustgetsgone
igottodealitwithahotmindonyou

Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 08:33pm PT

Take a look at the BIG picture.
All climbing is stupid. It's self indulgent... but it is enjoyable.

Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 09:04pm PT

It should be enjoyable. All this bantering about trad vs. sport vs. aid is absurd. Whenever I hear this sh#t I just assume the person running their mouth is low on self-esteem and needs to trash somebody else to buoy their low self worth.

dufas

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 09:30pm PT

doodle: who the hell do you think you are trying to introduce sense of reason to this? Everybody knows that Donny sucks, Satan is a jerk and copperhead is getting shitface drunk with bringmebeers.

Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2002 - 09:48pm PT

Dufas-
You are once again correct. Sorry to bring everyone down!
Cheers!

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:21pm PT

what a bunch of as#@&%es. you people act like I started this when I was only defending sport then when people talk sh#t I talk back.The as#@&%es start sh#t about me on other topics thats way weak. Hey zak ever herad of a caps lock button I think yours is stuck assmunch

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:33pm PT

I'll show you guys. I'm going to lead Astroman.

Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:39pm PT

Fake Donny. No way Real Donny will claim a go at Astroman. He'd DIE in the Harding Chimney.

P.S.Real Donny's pussy is so stretched out from being fisted by trad climbers. Was fingerlocks; is now hand stacks and soon will require arm bars...

..pathetic loser sport weenie

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:42pm PT

Guys guys guys-

Come on now- let's see if you can get to 200!

Dandy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:43pm PT

Do y'all actually know each other outside the forums? Or is this just your way of flirting with your online buddies?

;)

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 02:47pm PT

Are you too dumb to know that astroman isint a bolted route? hey doodle grow up theres more to talk about that peoples privates but may be thats all you know. did you notice this site is about climbing?

NOT Donny

Intermediate climber

San Jose Ca

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2002 - 11:25pm PT

First I want to thank everyone, especially you Donny for a great laugh. I climb trad, sport, and have tried a little aid. Who cares it's all fun.

However I must say that you (Donny) seem, ahh, how do I put this nicely...Full of sh#t. Be that as it may, if you really are a sport climber, and are good enough to lead 5.12's then might I suggest (if you ever do get to CA) you try some of the sport routes at the pinnacles. I'm sure you would enjoy the well bolted routes on excellent solid rock....

Again, thanks everyone for the laughs....

Go Green Giant!

Suzy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 05:44pm PT

Hey Donny, you going to lead Astroman or not?

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 05:59pm PT

have you read the stuff above do you think I climb trad? what a dumb question

marie

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 07:14pm PT

I guess its time to bolt astroman so our hero donny can climbit..

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 07:25pm PT

ya marie and we can get rid of some bolts on 5.13 routes so you can trad climb them witch you never could do dont talk stupid shit

sno

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 07:48pm PT

From reading Donny's posts, I'm really getting the impression that he is a moron.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 07:56pm PT

from reading your post your a dumbass

doodling Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2002 - 10:59pm PT

It toook 159 posts to figure that Donny is a moron? You're pretty quick yourself sno.

doddles

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 09:05am PT

also took 140 or so to figure he is a pussy
(unless you presume ALL sport climbers are pussies)

Suzy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 09:22am PT

Donny makes the point. 5.14 sport climbers (at least this one) can't lead 5.11 trad. I find this to be pretty much the rule. Are you afraid to try 5.10?...5.9?

What is this bs about you climbing better than the rest of us if you can't lead anything trad?!

Boink

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 09:49am PT

Trad : Sport same as Apples : Oranges

Happy

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 12:27pm PT

Boink. I concur.

grr

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 01:26pm PT

Funny thing is, there's a whole shitload of people who think that trad is better (in many various ways) to sport, and not a whole lot who argue the other way. They argue 1) sport is superior out of sheer difficulty, as though preplaced gear and lack of an R/X fall isn't a difficulty downgrade. Or 2) come on, let's just all get along. Or 3) all climbing is meaningless anyway, which kind of begs the question. Hmm. Makes a feller think.

hmm

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 04:29pm PT

sport is just toprope with a .01 fall factor..

Doodle

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2002 - 08:54pm PT

This thread is almost as painful as watching the stockmarket. One excruciating point at a time.
Donny, Should I hang on to my rapidly fizzling mutual funds or should I cash em out and put em in a 2% CD. You are definitely a moron, and that makes you smarter thn my broker. what do I do Sportwanker?
Love
Doodle

Nut man

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2002 - 07:48pm PT

Trad rules but only with nuts.

G lover

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2002 - 08:10pm PT

hey donny-

is your sister really a little bit country?
cause i wanna give her a little bit of rock n roll!

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2002 - 04:45pm PT

Goddam...that troll was even BETTER than the Paco one. Look at all the fish I caught! Whoa..that Dawnette has some fire in her eh? Well Mr. Fisherman....you win...good eye for satire. GOLD I tell you...but, it has run its rather raucous and shallow course. At lease many of you had the opportunity to vent your feelings on sport climbing and sport climbers like Donny (we've all been across them), some of you laughed, some of you cried...hell I know I did (Jim Bob.. you killed me with that "goats supertopo" reply). Well, you know a troll is successful when people begin posting as you....on threads you've never posted on. And to think people want to censor this place?

Piess,
Donny

sno

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2002 - 05:21pm PT

Congratulations Donny! You figured it out. All you gotta do, is insult a bunch of people.

I still think your a moron.

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2002 - 05:22pm PT

fuk u dood

Donnette

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2002 - 05:45pm PT

thats Donnette you moron, and thanks for the stress relief!!

donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2002 - 04:05am PT

donny knows how to spell fuk. dickwad,
love
donny

Yo yo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2002 - 10:50am PT

Hey, Yo!
Sport climbing is OK man, until one clips the bolts. THAT's when it becomes stupid!

Countdown...

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2002 - 11:10am PT

Nearly to the 185 post barrier....

Barry Bonds

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2002 - 06:34pm PT

#188

Fisherman

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2002 - 06:35pm PT

well, if I can't say Donny is a fuk hole..

what CAN i say?

you're telling me there IS no Donny? why duncha tell me there is no Santa Claus either..

Still counting

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 05:35am PT

179...

Only 6 to go until all Donny's drivel disappears...

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 02:55pm PT

Never! Keep posting, boys and girls, everything will be OK! We will live long beyond the mythical 185 barrier. We cannot be killed, not as long as Donny is with our cause! Donny? Donny?

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 03:14pm PT

Betchya 185 ain't no barrier here!

Donny

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 04:29pm PT

dudes why is everyone trying to make this thing go away i think its cool,plus people still think thier is a donny what a buncha dorks

Yes, like Santa (and senior Montoya), Donny too is simply a mythical entity. He is simply the stereotype of the teen gym/sport climber. The name will no doubt continue to appear, but by no means through me.

Donny

Novice climber

Donny

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 04:44pm PT

I believe Largo wrote an article about Donny in which he posited that Donny is actually Chongo, A mythical yosemite legend. this Is true.
Love
Donny

grr

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 05:46pm PT

Chongo says, essentially, that Donny is actually Largo in a essay he published in Psychology Today in March or April of 97. Worth looking up.

Chongo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 06:11pm PT

What?

Big Wall Guy

Advanced climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 06:34pm PT

Hey Chongo, Can I buy a poop tube from you?

Chongo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 07:57pm PT

What's a poop tube?

WOW!

Intermediate climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 08:27pm PT

I wanna buy your book (even if it's full of outdated bigwall theory)!

Go Chongo!

Chongo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 08:29pm PT

Do you mean one of my PVC potato(e) projection devices?

Plenty popular, 'parently, those PVC potato(e) projectors of mine...

Pity, presently 'pear plum out, plus, prime period por persuing pretty partying peasant girls (here in mexico).

Peaceout
-Paco
(aka Chongo)

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2002 - 09:43pm PT

Paco-Chango-Donny same same

Chongo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2002 - 10:41am PT

Piss off Paco, I'm Chongo!

Chongo

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2002 - 02:04pm PT

Godammit, are we starting in with this anonymous poser sh#t again? There can be only ONE Chongo, and I am that Chongo. Do not drag my proud name through the gutter for your petty amusements.

The Real Chongo

PS I sport climb, but only by hitchhiking.

200

Novice climber

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2002 - 02:08pm PT