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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 2, 2009 - 06:37pm PT
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Doug has been caught trying to plant evidence up on Temple Crag this weekend as proof for his Atomic Broom theory that the Sierras were cleaned by A-blasts in Nevada for about 25 years. It’s a bitter moment for American Climbing as we all love him but to apprehend him fabricating proof for his unique conjecture is beyond the capacity of most to forgive and does call into question the veracity of all previous of his suppositions.
REFERENCE LINK: http://supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=729112&tn=0&mr=0
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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just because the evidence was planted, doesn't mean that it's not true!
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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A Japonese tourist was overheard saying, " Ah Doug Robinsoy, you look much taller on T.V. "
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MisterE
Trad climber
Meeteetse, Wyoming
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No sweeping this one under the relative "rug"!
Another good one, Peter!
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Before and after pics of talus slopes.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2009 - 07:56pm PT
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Ding, it's all because I haven't had any construction projects for six months so I am home a lot doing Creative Suite 4 / Photoshop tutorials, and so I do these kooky images for a break, you know. It is incredibly fun. thanks btw. The Donini ones were incredibly fun to do.
p.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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"Trust me," said Peter as he uncorked the third bottle of wine...
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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You think you know someone on ST, then this...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Now that's shittalking
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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didn't you mean shittake? Jaybro????
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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I knew it I knew it I knew it
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Well, I bet he can't prove it isn't true - so doesn't that mean it's true? No need for junk science or conspiracy theories or anything.
And about those ferocious giant bloodthirsty Canadian wolves in Idaho... Note that there aren't any in the Sierra, which right by itself is proof that someone in California is out to get RokJox.
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Mimi
climber
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Very funny story, Peter! And cool artwork! I almost fell for it thinking we'd all be throwing in for Doug's bail! LOL! He's more stealth than that though.
Missed the original thread last year. Thanks for posting it. An interesting concept with an especially fun dialogue around it.
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Ray-J
Social climber
east L.A. vato...
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Hippie. Period.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Thank you Rokjox - I enjoy your stories very much and read all of them. Some are quite imaginative and entertaining.
Any proof that your friend's dog was killed by a wolf? Might it not have been coyotes, a cougar, or a bear - all of which, unlike wolves, are found throughout Idaho? Have any wolves been reliably sighted in the area where the dog was killed?
Simply finding the dog's head seems scant 'proof' that wolves were involved.
Did I mention that my mother, a school librarian, was a huge fan of Little Red Riding Hood? She had a giant collection of related books and memorabilia, which will eventually form a display at UBC. Wolves make good stories, whatever the truth.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise....It's like Mars with air
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Maybe Doug Robinson ate your dog.
Or Dingoes.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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I vote for dingo's. Silent but deadly. My old dog was part Dingo, and he was the best hunting dog you've ever seen and smarter then most humans.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, peter hann... oh my... i was GOING to say----i'm full-up clueless as to all this...
UNTIL i saw this:
"Ding, it's all because I haven't had any construction projects for six months.... etc etc etc...."
now that explains it all.... ;)
oh you guys, you.... :)
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Seems testing in Nevada had a more insidious effect on the Sierra- the climbing population anyway. Hmmmm... radiation and the development, or deformity, of the cerebral cortex.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I wonder if they set off a few test blasts in Idaho, say in the vicinity of Boise? That would explain a lot of things. Imaginary giant ferocious mutated bloodthirsty Canadian wolves, for example.
Edit: Isn't Boise downwind of the Sierra?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Donini, hmmm....
Funny, all the epidemiology points to effects that are downwind -- e.g. east -- of the Atomic Test Site.
Aren't you from Colorado?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Ahh! Now I know my deficiencies aren't genetic. Too bad my parents aren't around to get the good news.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2009 - 01:43pm PT
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There's a way out Jim, look:
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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The sneaky devil, classic Robinson, he probabally planted the evidence on rappel.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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We donini stinking coffee cups!
I know ITAL design when I see it and that ain't it.
Might go for a 'Tomic Broom version in wedgewood, or what's that folk gnome type stuff.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2009 - 03:00pm PT
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Tarb, I will get right on that Wedgewood pattern, back soon!! (((thanks tons all ©©© to Tarby)))
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Like the design Peter, makes me feel warm, err radioactive, all over.
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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What??
This post is so Dump ! I had to respond, F*#k you Peter!! and all of you that buy in to this pile of bullsh#t. Why? Do you want to shame a good man so bad? Doe’s this go back to the old day’s?
F. Bruce Diffenbaugh
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2009 - 07:08pm PT
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Dogtown,
you have misunderstood. Doug Robinson and I are very very good friends, and have been friends for 40 years! He loves this, in fact has printed out the image and has it above his computer right now. As you will see in the link in the original post it's about Doug's article about the Atomic Broom that was published last year or this Spring. Relax, we all love Doug here.
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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Well, Good Peter! I have known Robinson for forty years too, So your point is Sh#t, Doug Doesn’t make thing’s up? He is just in thought and theory, Have you read his writing? I’m sure you have, Sorry, Maybe it’s just me! but this forum has been less then kind to me or my fiends in the past. I have read his writings for years. He would do nothing too seed this theory. EVER!
Dogtown, FB Diffenbaugh.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Yes, really and truly Bruce,
It's like a roast and we really are just foolin' around.
The notion that DR would plant evidence to support his, um, theory, is all in the over-the-top imagery of folly and as such a jocular, jovial even, appreciation of our buddy.
Shredding on our friends in a creative way.
It's like being 14 again but with better tools.
Yours,
Turdbuster
(I so can't believe nobody ever pulled that one out; you people are slow)
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise....It's like Mars with air
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Idaho is NOT downwind from Nevada.
We're due north. We ARE downwind fron Hanford, home of the radioactive tumbleweeds.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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When asked in a recent Senate Hearing, whether he planted false evidence or not, the only reply from the Checkered Demon was, "NICE".
I rest my case!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Rokjox has a good point. Even allowing for the usual Idahoan paranoia and conspiracy theories, there's no doubt that the US government, at least somewhat knowingly, used citizens living downrange from its nuclear test sites as guinea pigs in the 1950s.
Edit: And the nuclear industry generally - southeast Washington, Nevada, New Mexico...
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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You're sure none of that Hanford waste didn't drift north?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Far be it from me to be the first one here to break character and trample the mood and all and say something flatfooted and straight-up, but...
Bruce, it's cool. Really. We're just needling each other a bit here, and we wouldn't dare do it if we weren't 40-year good friends underneath it all. Like being a good climbing partner, once you've held each other's lives in your hands enough on the end of the rope, a certain amount of good-natured ribbing tends to break out. That's all this is, among friends.
I hear you about the meaner, slandering sort of stuff that can happen here too. Sorry you've been stung by it. I have too. Like over Growing Up, remember? And thanks again, BTW, for having my back there. Much appreciated. Peter and Tarbuster were with me too.
One of the big difficulties of a words-only communication like our exchanges online here, is that in a normal face-to-face conversation something like 80% of the actual communicating happens through facial expressions, body language etc. That makes it super easy to mistake, misread, or just plain miss the attitude that goes with the words -- which would have been easily picked up in person.
Anyway, sorry it got to seeming out of hand...
Oh yeah, "Nice..."
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Enough thread drift, now back to radiation drift.
Apparently the acid rain researchers working lakes in the Wind Rivers had evidence linking the acid rain there to sulfur coming from the Four Corners power plant down in Navajo land. That's blowing a lot more north than east...
So cancer up in Idaho would be the same cloud-drift direction from the Nuclear Test Site. Not so far fetched.
(An interesting expression here, actually, since "fetch" can also refer to the direction wind comes from.)
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scuffy b
climber
Sinatra to Singapore
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Free Tumbler?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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How does that go?
"If the tumbler don't get you
Then the lightning will"?
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
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Southern Id-dee-ho is downwind of Nv.
Consider the case of the Jerritt Cyn mine shutdown.
Measured mercury was measured in Idaho and linked directly to the smelters at the Nv mine.
DR - "Good day fer something" C.D.
Imagine the termoil if we didn't know each other??!!!
TC
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Hey don't put Hanford down! Ever since I moved up here everyone says I have a healthy glow.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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An F4 going Supersonic at 15k creates a greater shock wave in the air than an 250kt Nuke at 100 miles.
Juan
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2009 - 12:59pm PT
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Of similar significance, and perhaps not as well recognized a tremendous amount of the air over California (and of course Oregon) has arrived from China. Although this issue implies we are receiving their pathogens, worse, we are receiving an enormous amount of their industrial pollution. Read below.
“Estimates are that a third of California's air pollution and a fifth of Oregon's comes from China. Sensors in the Sierra Nevada Mountains have identified huge Chinese pollution clouds that traverse the Pacific.
“Every seven to 10 days, as the New York Times reports, a new coal-fired plant big enough to serve every household in San Diego comes on line in China, exporting more pollution to California and the Western United States than Schwarzenegger's draconian proposals could ever hope to eliminate.
“As a "developing" nation, China is exempt from the Kyoto agreement under which industrialized countries are trying to reduce their collective emissions of greenhouse gases. China burns 2,500 tons of coal and 210,000 gallons of crude oil per minute. It has plans for 2,200 additional coal generators by 2030.
Apparently this is common knowledge in environmental circles and appears all over the internet searches. Here it is excerpted from:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=331341243988110
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scuffy b
climber
Sinatra to Singapore
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I was subjected to NINE sonic booms in one day,
in the Emigrant Wilderness no less.
Solstice, 1971.
At the end of the day, I got my first Northern Goshawk
sighting, so the net was on the plus side.
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mooch
Big Wall climber
The Immaculate Conception
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Peter you have been on a roll for MONTHS now.
Now, now Dingus.....wasn't this the original text:
"Peter you have been a troll for MONTHS now."
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
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Can't-let-Fatrad-have-the-last word Bump!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
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Peter, self-bumping? I am disillusioned. But it is worthy. :-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 13, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
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Fatty said: Sorry about the thread drift, back to tormenting DR. My Facelift project this year is to chop GU.
So that was a big fat fail then?
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Anastasia
climber
Home
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Jun 13, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
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Giggling...
Very entertaining, perfect for this sleepy afternoon.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 13, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmaf6RlvQak
There was never a time in my life AFTER CHUCK (YEAGER)* when sonic booms were NOT reality here in Central California, until the govamint stepped in to do something. Remember getting the shift scared out of you as you watched the Mouse Club? And we used to jump up and run outside to see the source of the sound, miles away by then.
I don't know specifics, only what the internet tells me, like "The first law against sonic boom was placed by Santa Barbara, California in October 1967."
*A sound master would realize the times they are a-changin' and accept the scheme of Before Chuck or BC and After Chuck or AC, were it ever proposed. Hey, that's as valid as a stone master version with Pratt as the timeline divider.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 13, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
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It is strange (or is it just human) that on short, sharp routes a bolt appearing after an FA or an FFA, is considered a breach of manners and style, but then, on a long old route like this one in a remote area hardly anyone will know about much less repeat, the ethic still sticks with the leaders who care about style, and the bolt never gets placed, only a quondam removable stopper suffers, and the route's integrity remains intact, for what it's worth.
Seems death-wishy, somehow, but that's the nature of confronting ourselves in nature. It is, just like watching NASCAR is for some, I suppose, recreation. What is "fun" and what is "unethical" and "safe" are usually intertwined in our modern minds, but DR seems to have a clear understanding of it all, having had to earn his bread from such wisdom as he has accumulated through experience, making him "expert," giving him credentials...
Can't say anymore, don't hardly know DR, just his old-fashioned ethics. I wouldn't care if he got up or down, only that
he lives to climb another day
and maybe have another say.
And he brings them home alive.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 09:21am PT
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Read 'em & weep (or not) archival bump.
Edit for clarity
One study found 1,647 people died of heart attacks from shoveling snow between 1990 and 2006.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jan 27, 2016 - 11:31am PT
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Wow. I didn't notice the dates on this thread, then I got to Juan's post. Still miss that guy. We used to see him climbing quite a bit, then later on it was every week or so at the Starbucks on Chatsworth St. in Northridge.
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Jan 27, 2016 - 05:12pm PT
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Missed this first time around but Doug just
looks guilty of whatever those charges were.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
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Friends don't let friends get nabbed by the Feds...
Long Live S Clay Wilson!
Haaaarrrrrr!
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:36pm PT
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Walked by Double Cross last weekend and found myself wondering where a good spot for the bolt would be.
If I get a chance, I'll ask DR about the radiation Sunday night.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
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No day can be considered bad ( and the last 24 hrs have been a doozy!) when the perverted pirates put in an appearance!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 27, 2016 - 09:00pm PT
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And an ocean of grog to you Seeker!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 09:07pm PT
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