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salad
climber
Escondido
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Jul 31, 2009 - 09:52pm PT
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did Mark post here as esoteric1?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 31, 2009 - 09:54pm PT
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My condolences to Mark's friends and family.
Rest in peace, Mark.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 31, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
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Jaybro, you are a baby....:D
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Sincere condolences to Mark's family and friends.
-Jeff Lowe
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Bump to give friends the genuine thread to post to:
I didn't know Mark but I honor him and wish him well on the great journey. Sorry to his friends for the loss
Peace
Karl
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miller.545
Sport climber
Overland Park, KS
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so sad. I have had a few friends take their own life and it sucks.
Thoughts and prayers
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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I am so very sorry to hear this news. Mark looked happy in his climbing pictures but I know all too well, smiles can be deceptive. One's demons can run deep, and it is at those dark moments when they come to haunt, that no matter how many routes you've climbed, or how many FA's you've done, or who might love you, the demons can win.
Clinical depression is serious, especially dangerous when a person is coming out of the depression (most common time to take one's life). No one wants to revist that kind of deep depression and pain, I feel deeply for Mark that he struggled with such despair and ultimate hopelessness.
To Mark's friends and relatives, you have my condolences, but I know there is little solace when you lose a loved one. I am sure Mark had wonderful moments, and I think it is important to hold onto those times he had in his life, his peak experiences, his passions and what he shared with others.
God bless him.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there jamulian, i just saw these new pictures here...
say, i did not know mark... and i already posted here, but after seeing these wonderful pictures of a happy part of his life... i must post again...
thank you for sharing part of who he was... we will never know all of him, but you cared to make sure that his name is not forgotten...
once again, my deep condolences to his family and to the loss of your friend...
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Polar Sun
Trad climber
Joshua Tree
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If anyone has additional news about just what happened, as well as family contact information I would like to know. I had an email discussion with Mark a few weeks ago during which we discussed suicide as an option he had apparently outgrown. Needless to say, the final outcome has left me perplexed and looking for answers.
Peace to all,
--Polar Sun
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blr
climber
socal
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I climbed with Mark a couple of times years ago. Would have climbed more with him but he lived way out in BFE Alpine and had no car at the time. I remember him as really friendly and laid back. Seemed like he would go out of his way for a friend. I know he was also good friends with Micah Retz, the San Diego climber who broke his neck and was paralyzed a few years ago.
RIP Mark
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Ray-J
Social climber
east L.A. vato...
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Very sad, yes some are too sensitive for this world...
Sorry to hear about this, really sorry.
Jamulian, - I know of good climbing near you.
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carrierocks
Social climber
alpine, ca
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Mark was my best friend for 15 years. I am so glad to know that he had so many friends and people who cared about him. I just wish he would have known it too. His service is today at sunset at his house. I am unfortunately 2500 miles away and unable to make it and it is breaking my heart. Thank you everyone for posting such great pictures of him. He would have made me laugh by now. He could have done anything! He was amazing! I will never forget the first time he climbed a rock. I will never forget him.
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DAVID B
Trad climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2009 - 11:52am PT
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Thanks for the posts I will make sure Marks family sees this thread and has a chance to post. blr-Mark and Mikah were best friends and Mark spent a tremendous amount of time helping Mikah through his ordeal. I spoke to Mikah on Saturday Marks death has effected him greatly. Mikah pointed out that Mark did not believe death was the end, but part of the journey.
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Jamulian
Trad climber
Jamul, CA
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A couple people have asked me to post here on their behalf. Clark Jacobs, who does not have a computer, was one on Mark's friends and climbing partners. He asked me to express that he first met Mark about six months after he got out of the hospital and he became a good friend and climbing partner. He will miss his friendship and the great times they shared on and off the rocks. He wanted to express his deepest condolences to all his other friends and family.
Rob, who posts here as "Flyingsherpa" asked me to post a few more pictures of Mark from one of their trips to J-Tree.
On "Run For Your Life":
"Bebop Tango":
Ray-J, I climbed at some of the good climbing areas near me with Mark. He knew San Diego's backcountry very well. What areas near me do you know of? I am always on the lookout for new areas.
Adam
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salad
climber
Escondido
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I was fortunate enough to have spent a couple of hours with Mark. We had never met before, but somehow got to talking at the Comedy Club benefit that was held for Micah.
We had a few pints together and he shared his last cigarette with me.
I don't remember much of what we talked about, and we never spoke again in person, but I do remember him as being someone I instantly liked and trusted. It was almost as if we had been friends for some time.
It must be very difficult to have a soul like Mark's taken so suddenly from your life. My condolences to his family and friends.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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a couple of pictures i took from the micah retz thread:
RIP bro....
edit - sorry, i didn't take those pictures, i just 'took' them from the thread and re-posted them here.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there salad... say, that was very kind to post these pictures for mark's friends and family...
also---say, as to micah... i had posted for a bit, awhile back, hoping for an update...
do you know he is doing... ?
the last time i had checked the website there was no more updates...
he was home, and the house had been fixed up for him and i believe it said his kids were there, or nearby, to visit him...
hope he is getting stronger and doing well to tackle his hard trail...
hope he knows that folks don't forget about him----trails just move out and about, is all... but folks are still in one's prayers...
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MarkSis
climber
san diego
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Aug 13, 2009 - 07:28am PT
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i just want to thank every one for sharing about Mark..and the pictures are beautiful. If he could have captured some of the joy he found out there climbing and took it with him maybe he'd still be here...maybe. Climbing added years to his life. Its been a long, hard battle for him but he finally found his peace. I wish knowing that made it a lil easier. But i understand..and i love him. Ill see him in every rainbow..and every sunset, and every damn rock :) until Im with him again. He is my brother and he is perfect, faults, suicide, drugs, sobriety, right or wrong...i miss HIM! thank you so much for sharing with us!
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