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marky
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 19, 2005 - 12:40am PT
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I'm technologically illiterate, so help a brother if you're so inclined.
I have a photo of a pretty mountain. I want to trace the route I did.
How? thanks.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 19, 2005 - 12:45am PT
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Use a pencil, then make a copy.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 19, 2005 - 01:12am PT
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You can probably do what Ouch! said...
take it down to your local Long's Drug store or similar, scan your picture in at the Kodak kiosk... now you have a copy, you can probably get it enlarged too...
draw your route on the copy
then scan the copy with the route on it....
not sure what quality you are going to achieve with this...
Another way is to have it scanned in (maybe Office Max?) load the file on your computer. Us some native photoeditor (don't know what system you are using) to draw your route... then rip the edited file to a CD and take it back to have it printed.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 19, 2005 - 01:33am PT
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Here's a route Crimpergirl did awhile back. She got the beta from Blowboarder. Turns out he had downed a few before he wrote the topo. Took her awhile to send it.
On Crimpergirl's epic, Blowboarder had told her there was a solid two bolt belay with good slings just below the crux. Near a small ledge where a large woodchuck was sunning. Trouble was, the woodchuck kept moving around. She chased that groundhog all over that wall. Finally used up all her gear and had to have a guy named Gerry build her a dirt mattress onto which she landed when she jumped off.
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marky
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2005 - 01:38am PT
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Ed, thanks. I'm in a Mac environment. I don't have Photoshop or anything like that, but will drop coin if you can endorse something solid.
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Shack
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Aug 19, 2005 - 01:39am PT
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Is this an actual photo on paper or is
it a digital photo on your computer.
I'm making a wild assumption that you have a computer..
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Shack
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Aug 19, 2005 - 01:44am PT
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Just use any simple drawing program,
and you can do what Ouch! is doing.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 19, 2005 - 01:54am PT
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I use Photoshop, but that is a bit much for drawing a route...
you could go to the Fink web site http://fink.sourceforge.net/ and install a version of gimp. This is free (except for the time you will spend doing it).
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Aug 19, 2005 - 02:02am PT
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Marky,
Here's a no stress method: Find a photographer or graphic design friend, bring your image and a six pack, have him/her draw the line in photoshop, save, print...presto. It ain't a super topo but will do the job.
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Aug 19, 2005 - 09:41am PT
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For SuperTopo guidebooks we create all line drawings as paths in Illustrator. The key is to create a duplicate version of the line and paste it behind the top line. This line then gets a fat white stroke so that the top line can be distinguised from the photo background.
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Nate D
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Aug 19, 2005 - 02:24pm PT
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There are so many ways to do it - some far more effective than others - that can't very easily or readily be explained in this forum - esp. if you don't have a scanner or digital image, or photoshop or illustrator. (If you have a Mac, though, you are on the right path! :-) ) Not to say it's rocket science, by any means.
So, take Jerry's advice and consult a designer. Karl might do it for a few bucks, eh?
Or, use one of the hand drawn methods above (making sure your pen line contrasts enough with the image/rock so as to be visible). You'll figure it out.
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
the Southwest
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Aug 19, 2005 - 05:17pm PT
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Illustrator is the way to go. Adobe Indesign has a pretty good path tool as well, and once you learn to use it, you can adjust lines easily to match your mindwaves precisely.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Aug 19, 2005 - 06:02pm PT
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Try opening the picture file in paint or paint shop pro, or the like.
-Brian in SLC
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Aug 19, 2005 - 10:36pm PT
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And that groundhog roasted up mighty good that night!
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 19, 2005 - 10:50pm PT
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Did you see the movie , Gerry? Strangest movie I ever saw, next to my favorite, Napolean Dynamite.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Aug 19, 2005 - 10:53pm PT
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No. I'm way behind on movies. Never even heard of Gerry. I'll look it up on google. Found this (and it sounds good):
--In Gus Van Sant's GERRY, a film more concerned with atmosphere and visual breadth than with story or plot, a frivolous hike through the desert evolves into an existential journey for two young men. The film features only two characters, both named Gerry and played by the film's co-creators Casey Affleck and Matt Damon. Driving through a desert populated with imposing rock formations and bordered by miles of sky, the two Gerrys stop to see an unspecified "thing" which they are unable to find. The two young men then attempt to return to their car, but cannot find the pathway back. As they wander through the increasingly difficult desert terrain, their journey strains their friendship and becomes an exploration that is clearly about more than just finding the car.
I slept thru N.Dynamite. Not an indictment of the movie, just what happens if I am on the couch and it's after 9pm.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 20, 2005 - 12:13am PT
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Rent Gerry. The scene where Affleck gets up on the big rock and can't get down is priceless.
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Aug 20, 2005 - 12:13am PT
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You can use any drawing program. I have photoshop and the paint tool works great.
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Ouch!
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Aug 20, 2005 - 01:13am PT
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Aug 20, 2005 - 01:26am PT
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marky
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2005 - 01:31am PT
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thanks again; very helpful.
so is it really just a matter of tracing the line visually with the mouse? I'm not sure my coordination is that good. could I just tell the computer "trace ridge" or "trace couloir" in geekspeak and have it done without error?
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Aug 20, 2005 - 01:44am PT
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It's best that you draw it in. If you're having trouble use your zoom tool to get you in close so that you can get better detail.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 20, 2005 - 01:46am PT
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Hope that shower doesn't cause old #46 to drop Werner. LOL!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Aug 20, 2005 - 09:10am PT
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Ewwww. Now he has to climb of pee-rock.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 20, 2005 - 02:50pm PT
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Watusi better stay clear of the Valley. Old #46 will be on the prod after that episode. Nothing makes a bear madder than to get peed on.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 20, 2005 - 09:39pm PT
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PEE GEE RATING
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marky
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2005 - 10:12pm PT
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climberweenie: thanks -- that's something I can do! looks great btw.
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