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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
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Hulk Bump!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jun 30, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
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no no no, you say it like this.... "HULK SMASH!"
:)
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Sonic
Trad climber
Central Coast, California
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Jun 30, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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How Are the conditions after this last storm? I'm heading out there the 8-10 for the red di. Should I cart in snowshoes/skis/axe-crampon ?
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Jun 30, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
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No first hand beta here but driving past the Sawtooth ridge the other day, looking up towards the Matterhorn and there was a LOT of snow.
I'm wondering what conditions would be like for high country approaches myself. I think we might be approaching a crappy scenario within the next few days where there is still a lot of snow but it's not getting cold enough for solid freezes at night, so skis or snowshoes might be required on the snow. BUT, the snow can start pretty far from the trailhead so you might have to hump that stuff awhile before you need it. And then when you get to it, you might not even need it.
Any thoughts from the wiser Sierra men and women?
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NYZoo
Trad climber
Gunks
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Hulk Bump for conditions.... has anyone been up there?
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Sonic
Trad climber
Central Coast, California
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Cultureshock said he was heading out there this last weekend so I'd check in with him or wait till he updates the thread
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
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I'll have photos up later tonight.
The gist is that there is a TON of snow. The normal bivy sites near the "creek" are under 10 feet of snow. You have to hike up canyon about another 10-15 minutes to find running water (go up and right and follow your ears).
Everyone this past weekend camped around the trees.
There were 5 parties up there from Saturday-> Monday. Saw people on Sunspot, Positive Vibes, Red Dihedral (two groups) and Bee Line.
Make sure to get your permits. Not only is it the right thing to do but we saw a ranger on the hike in. He was very nice and possibly removing fire rings or doing trail work. I was informed at the rangers station that NO FIRES are allowed in Little Slide Canyon.
Weather was WARM. This meant the snow was very soft (easy to hike up, slide down).
From the big trail take the down stream of the two creek crossings. The one seen in the Kate and Brittany post is totally underwater! The logs are pretty easy to cross.
Extra dry socks or Gaiters are suggested due to all the snow. I'm a big fan of snow travel with trekking poles and never ended up using the ice axe we brought.
Go for it!
 Luke
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2011 - 12:38am PT
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Looking back at little slide canyon. Parts of this were steep, but easily doable in soft snow.
There was a ton of snow over the normal bivy area. In addition the creek that usually runs was under many feet of snow. Inorder to get water I hiked up the left of the two drainage/gulleys in the photo. A bit out of the way but a good water source.
The snow field goes all the way up to the base but this doesn't affect any of the routes. There is snow in the descent gully which will require kicking steps. This should be easy when the snow is soft.
Go have fun!
Luke
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View
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nice stuff Luke.....looks like a great time. Thanks for posting.
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kirkadirka
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Lots of snow still on the backside after hitting the ridge on Positive Vibes last week. Be prepared to do some climbing through snow and wet rock for the ridge traverse and final two pitches to the summit.
I did the entire approach in sandals.
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noriko nakagawa
Trad climber
los angeles
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Thanks all for the great photos and conditions reports.
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superbum
Ice climber
Bishop, CA
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Jul 11, 2011 - 09:21pm PT
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Hulk SMASH!
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2011 - 02:31pm PT
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Saw and heard of a lot of traffic on Venturi Effect this summer...
Hopefully climbers are being careful of loving the Hulk to death!
Remember to leave no trace!
Luke
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NilsDavis
Trad climber
Bishop
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Oct 28, 2011 - 11:10am PT
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Glad there's some interest in this. The only reason this topo hasn't been out there is sheer laziness.
This is a great line - one of my favorites.
The timing is a bit off (being november) but here it is nonetheless.
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NilsDavis
Trad climber
Bishop
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Oct 28, 2011 - 05:48pm PT
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By the way, those photo topos look good, but the line representing Venturi is a bit off. The first pitch goes left out the undercling to a stance out on the triangular slab, not right (to the corner) like those lines you guys drew in.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jul 26, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
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Would be awesome if someone created a route map (like the ones The Alpine and cultureshock posted) of all routes on it including beeline polish route and all other established lines...
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
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Vitaliy,
I just updated my hulk beta page and it should have just about everything you need to climb at the Hulk. I've got topos of most routes and I'm working on another route map (I even grabbed your photo of the Solar Flare Topo). If you have an questions/comments/corrections let me know.
Tons of hulk beta:
http://www.dreaminvertical.com/2012/07/incredible-hulk-101-tips-tricks-and-beta/
Here's the latest version of the my Hulk photo topo. Not even halfway done. I'll try to put some more time into it.
Orange - Sunspot
Pink - Positive Vibrations
Blue - Airstream (work in progress)
Green - Ventauri Effect
Yellow - Tradewinds
Purple - Eye of the Storm
Enjoy,
Luke
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jul 26, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
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Great page Luke. Do you know if there are any other routes on the right side of the Hulk aside from yours, Fallen Leaf, Fallen Dihedral, RD, and Beeline?
As I understand Fallen Leaf goes up the big dihedral which is just to the left of the crack system that is the Beeline?
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
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It seems that Fallen leaf is very close to Bee Line. I think your statement is correct. There is an approximate line drawn on this photo:
Photo from the Secor book. Some more info here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=u0sc6cgA1IUC&lpg=PA3&dq=inauthor%3A%22R.%20J.%20Secor%22&pg=PA468#v=onepage&q=Hulk&f=false
I think it is worth buying the book based on how much you climb in the Sierra.
I've only heard of the West Face de Klerk Brugger via Secor. It seems like a very natural line just to the right of Red Dihedral and Lost in the Sun. After the first pitch or two I believe it follows a right facing dihedral system.
From the 5th pitch on my route I had a pretty good view down the corners of the West Face. They look pretty nice and vertical but also full of loose blocks. I don't think it has seen many repeats.
I've done Beeline and its a good warmup route for the day you hike in to the Hulk. I think the best rock is on the left side ie Positive Vibrations.
After that route and then Sun-Spot a good linkup is Tradewinds into Astro-Hulk. Keeps the climbing 5.11b or easier, but pretty sustained.
I've yet to do the Polish Route or Escape from Poland. But I hope to in a couple weeks. The cracks look pretty stellar!
If you end up doing either of the "Fallen" routes or the West Face make sure to report back. I'd love to see some more photos of that side of the hulk.
Luke
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