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dirtbag
climber
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May 29, 2009 - 02:15pm PT
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A lot of good things are going to be ditched because of costs.
Brace yourselves.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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May 29, 2009 - 03:35pm PT
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The should close to sacramento, that would be serious cost savings.
As far as no ranger, no water, no toitoi's, sounds like an improvement to many places.
I remember Castle Rock before the no parking signs went up on the road. Totally low key, great place to climb and hang out.
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kev
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2009 - 04:12pm PT
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Porkchop,
The majority of the good stuff here is in national parks, nation forest, or on BLM land. That stuff's not state run so no worries...
Tolman,
Still plenty of legit (dawn to dusk) parking at CRSP which is not in the gated lot.
Ok time to go to the Sierras...Bye all
kev
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
the base of the Shawangunk Ridge
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May 29, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
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thanks kev! thats good to know! I hope to bring my meager tax contributions to the table in a few months.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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May 29, 2009 - 05:05pm PT
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". . . the public employee unions want more money."
Is this really true? I would have thought the Terminator would have mandated decreases in saleries for state workers since the state is broke and Obama said a federal bailout as "improbable."
My question: What does "broke' actually mean in this context? How will anything or anyone get paid if there is no money? Explain to me how this works so I can use the same strategy to pay my bills, sans funds.
JL
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 29, 2009 - 08:43pm PT
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okay I posted this as why I voted against almost every Cal Prop in the special election. There are many things that need cutting or trimming...(this was from crazy Dr. F's thread);
This is the Cal State Budget expenditures for State agencies.
okay, here we go... I'm gonna say you cut everything 10% (like my company just did and operates more efficiently as a result), unless otherwise noted.
8910 Administrative Law, Office of
4170 Aging, Department of
7300 Agricultural Labor Relations Board
3900 Air Resources Board
4200 Alcohol and Drug Programs, Department of
2120 Alcoholic Beverage Control Appeals Board ELIMINATE IT
2100 Alcoholic Beverage Control, Department of
0971 Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority, California
8260 Arts Council, California Cut by 50%
9840 Augmentation for Contingencies or Emergencies
9800 Augmentation for Employee Compensation What? ELIMINATE IT
B Back to Top
3835 Baldwin Hills Conservancy ELIMINATE IT
0860 Board of Equalization, State
3680 Boating and Waterways, Department of
9658 Budget Stabilization Account Hahahhaaha
0520 Business, Transportation and Housing, Secretary for
C Back to Top
0530 California Health and Human Services Agency, Secretary for
2720 California Highway Patrol, Department of the
8550 California Horse Racing Board 25% Cut
6445 California Institute for Regenerative Medicine
8830 California Law Revision Commission Cut by 40% or more
6610 California State University
7120 California Workforce Investment Board Ain't working, 50%
9860 Capital Outlay Planning and Studies Funding What is this, ELIMINATE?
6330 Career Resource Network, California Sounds redundant to 7120, Eliminate?
5175 Child Support Services, Department of
4250 Children and Families Commission, California
8500 Chiropractic Examiners, Board of 50%
8385 Citizens' Compensation Commission, CaliforniaSounds redundant, 25-50%
3850 Coachella Valley Mountains Conservancy Later, Chop it
3720 Coastal Commission, California
3460 Colorado River Board of California
4180 Commission on Aging How is this different that 4170 in the A's, Chop it?
0280 Commission on Judicial Performance
6360 Commission on Teacher Credentialing
4700 Community Services and Development, Department of
3340 Conservation Corps, California
3480 Conservation, Department of
1111 Consumer Affairs Bureaus, Programs, Divisions, Department of
1110 Consumer Affairs Regulatory Boards, Department of
2180 Corporations, Department of 25%, they obviously aren't keeping jobs here
5225 Corrections and Rehabilitation, Department of
D Back to Top
0956 Debt and Investment Advisory Commission, California
0959 Debt Limit Allocation Committee, California
9600 Debt Service General Obligation Bonds and Commercial Paper
3840 Delta Protection Commission
4300 Developmental Services, Department of
E Back to Top
6125 Education Audit Appeals Panel Kill it, move to 6110
6110 Education, Department of
0558 Education, Office of the Secretary of
0989 Educational Facilities Authority, California
8770 Electricity Oversight Board
0690 Emergency Management Agency, California
4120 Emergency Medical Services Authority
9955 Employee Compensation Reform What? 50% or Kill it
7100 Employment Development Department
3360 Energy Resources Conservation and Development Commission
9612 Enhanced Tobacco Settlement Asset-Backed Bonds Kill it
3980 Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, Office of
3210 Environmental Protection Program
0555 Environmental Protection, Secretary for
9670 Equity Claims of California Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board and Settlements and Judgments by Department of Justice
F Back to Top
1705 Fair Employment and Housing Commission
1700 Fair Employment and Housing, Department of
8620 Fair Political Practices CommissionWTH is this?
9818 Federal Levy of State Funds
8860 Finance, Department of
8880 Financial Infomation System for California
2150 Financial Institutions, Department of
3600 Fish and Game, Department of
8570 Food and Agriculture, Department of
3540 Forestry and Fire Protection, Department of
1730 Franchise Tax Board
G Back to Top
0855 Gambling Control Commission, California
1760 General Services, Department of
0500 Governor's Office
6870 Governors of the California Community Colleges, Board of
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6600 Hastings College of the Law 50% or more
9650 Health and Dental Benefits for Annuitants
4260 Health Care Services, Department of
0977 Health Facilities Financing Authority, California
9909 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act Compliance
2665 High-Speed Rail Authority
2240 Housing and Community Development, Department of
2260 Housing Finance Agency, California
I Back to Top
0965 Industrial Development Financing Advisory Commission, California
7350 Industrial Relations, Department of
0552 Inspector General, Office of the
0845 Insurance, Department of
3910 Integrated Waste Management Board, California
9625 Interest Payments to the Federal Government
J Back to Top
0390 Judges' Retirement System, Contributions to the
0250 Judicial Branch
0820 Justice, Department of
K Back to Top
L Back to Top
0559 Labor and Workforce Development Agency, Secretary for
9610 Lease-Revenue Notes and Bonds
0160 Legislative Counsel Bureau
0150 Legislators' Retirement System, Contributions to the
0100 Legislature
0750 Lieutenant Governor, Office of the
9210 Local Government Financing
0850 Lottery Commission, California State
M Back to Top
2400 Managed Health Care, Department of
4280 Managed Risk Medical Insurance Board
4270 Medical Assistance Commission, California
4440 Mental Health, Department of
8940 Military Department
8780 Milton Marks "Little Hoover" Commission on California State Government Organization and Economy Later, Dead
2740 Motor Vehicles, Department of
N Back to Top
3780 Native American Heritage Commission Sounds nice, DEAD
O Back to Top
0502 Office of the State Chief Information Officer
P Back to Top
3790 Parks and Recreation, Department of
9620 Payment of Interest on General Fund Loans
8180 Payment to Counties for Costs of Homicide TrialRedundant, KILL IT
8120 Peace Officer Standards and Training, Commission on
8380 Personnel Administration, Department of
3930 Pesticide Regulation, Department of
8530 Pilot Commissioners for the Bays of San Francisco, San Pablo and Suisun, Board of 50% or more
2670 Pilot Commissioners for the Bays of San Francisco, San Pablo, and Suisun, Board of Again? KILL IT
0650 Planning and Research, Office of
8640 Political Reform Act of 1974
0974 Pollution Control Financing Authority, California
6420 Postsecondary Education Commission, Californialater, DEAD
1900 Public Employees' Retirement System
8320 Public Employment Relations Board
4265 Public Health, Department of
8660 Public Utilities Commission
Q Back to Top
R Back to Top
2310 Real Estate Appraisers, Office of
2320 Real Estate, Department of
5160 Rehabilitation, Department of
3370 Renewable Resources Investment Program WTF is this 50% for now
9885 Reserve for Liquidation of Encumbrances What? 75%
0540 Resources, Secretary for
S Back to Top
3845 San Diego River Conservancy Dead
3820 San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission Dead, see Cali Coastal Commish
3825 San Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles River and Mountains ConservancyDead
3830 San Joaquin River ConservancyLater, Dead
3810 Santa Monica Mountains ConservancyDead
0954 Scholarshare Investment Boardredundant, Dead
6350 School Facilities Aid Programredundant, Dead
0985 School Finance Authority, Californiaredundant, Dead
1100 Science Center, California
0890 Secretary of State
1690 Seismic Safety Commission, Alfred E. Alquist
4185 Senior Legislature, California
9350 Shared Revenues
3855 Sierra Nevada Conservancyredundant, Dead
5180 Social Services, Department of
3110 Special Resources Programsredundant, Dead
0510 State and Consumer Services, Secretary for
8855 State Audits, Bureau of
3760 State Coastal Conservancyredundant, Dead
8420 State Compensation Insurance Fund
0840 State Controller
4100 State Council on Developmental Disabilities
5170 State Independent Living Councilredundant, Dead
3560 State Lands Commission
6120 State Library, California
8885 State Mandates, Commission onredundant, Dead
1880 State Personnel Board
8140 State Public Defender
1920 State Teachers' Retirement System
6300 State Teachers' Retirement System, State Contributions to the
0950 State Treasurer
3940 State Water Resources Control Board
5195 State-Local Realignment
9900 Statewide General Administrative Expenditures (Pro Rata)
4140 Statewide Health Planning and Development, Office ofredundant, Dead
8820 Status of Women, Commission on theHahhaahahaa redundant, Dead
7980 Student Aid Commission, California
6255 Summer School for the Arts, California Stateredundant, Dead
T Back to Top
3125 Tahoe Conservancy, Californiaredundant, Dead
0968 Tax Credit Allocation Committee, California
9100 Tax Relief
1955 Technology Services, Department of
3960 Toxic Substances Control, Department ofredundant, Dead
2700 Traffic Safety, Office of
2640 Transit Assistance, State
2600 Transportation Commission, Californiaredundant, Dead
2660 Transportation, Department of
U Back to Top
8840 Uniform State Laws, Commission onredundant, Dead
6440 University of California
0983 Urban Waterfront Area Restoration Financing Authority, Californiaredundant, Dead
V Back to Top
8950 Veterans Affairs, Department of
1870 Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board, Californiaredundant, Dead
W Back to Top
3860 Water Resources, Department of
3640 Wildlife Conservation Board
Many of these need chopping in a time of fiscal mayhem. When we get things under control and get budget discipline we can rethink things.
EDIT:
I'm done now! This also includes laying off 10% of all State workers in administrative roles.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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May 29, 2009 - 09:45pm PT
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it won't make one bit of difference, it has been closed before, plus, it was not always a state park when people first started climbing there.
never need the bathroom, never need the ranger, so what's the difference?
less people maybe, the people with expensive cars will stay away.
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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May 29, 2009 - 10:24pm PT
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I wish the ASRA was on that list. I would take the family out there to climb!
/e misses Auburn :(
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 29, 2009 - 11:13pm PT
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I have heard they are closing down Anza Borrego State Park in San Diego County, CA.
The entire small community of Borrego depends much financially on the State Park for the touristis from all over the world it brings in. Why would you want to not only shut down a gorgeous park and campground along with a brand new Park Center, museum etc. but destroy the economy of a tiny community out in the middle of not much.
Has the CA govt. considered letting private enterprise take over and run these places. Pretty sure privates could actually make money and all these great spots could remain open. Lynne
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 30, 2009 - 12:06am PT
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Don't worry. They're not closing down anything.
The Parks make money.
They're just bluffing. Trying to spook people.
When was the last time you heard the truth from a politician?
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