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L

climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
Oct 10, 2017 - 08:43pm PT
Not like it's any badge of courage, that 5K+ tally. Much like being a good pool player is merely evidence of a misspent youth!

Well, I figure if you're gonna misspend your youth, what better place to do it than on the rocks, eh?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2017 - 08:48pm PT
heh.

Do you think my mom knows that's how that misspent youth went?
I've tried mightily to cover my tracks. But you know, like when I was 3 1/2 and hid half my spaghetti dinner inside the torn seat cushions of our dining set, I think she knows ...

Hugs and kisses to you, L.
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 12:10pm PT
tB

eXactly. My search looked for posts by you. I only ever put a photo or two on photobucket, I'm still looking around.

I tried some software that made claims about what it would do. It didn't.

Hence, still searchin'.

It appears to be reasonably straightforward to get all your photos out of photobucket, but you want them to still appear as they originally did in the threads, right? That's a bit different from what I'm looking to accomplish, but I may stumble on something.



zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 12:37pm PT


84 year old Trapeze Artist.

https://www.facebook.com/NBCSanDiego/videos/10154833311829609/
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 12:53pm PT
ZB wrote:
It appears to be reasonably straightforward to get all your photos out of photobucket, but you want them to still appear as they originally did in the threads, right?
Affirmative, to the latter. And while it would be okay if we could make them reappear within the Supertopo picture posting framework, though acceptable, this would not be optimal, because my photos are sized for better viewing.

Ideally, my own website would be established, and all my photos would be moved to that location. Easily done. Next, some sort of shazam would be applied so that all the original photobucket links which exist within all of these Supertopo threads, would still work, or, per the suggestion below, new links would somehow be inserted into those threads which would refer to the new locations of the photos.

Here's the best suggestion I've seen so far, proffered by fellow Supertopian Jon Beck:
It could be possible to write a script that replaced all of the photobucket links with a new hosting link. In Tarbusters case it would be simple enough to have a bot that went post by post downloading the photobucket image, uploading it to a new host and changing the link.

Some bright kid could earn some money doing that. Maybe some enterprising Indians (the ones in India) will do it manually for a good price.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 01:00pm PT
Thanks for putting your noggin to the grindstone on this project for me, zB!
Or at least thinking about it for a spell ...

Check out the family tree for The Flying Wallendas:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Wallendas
TwistedCrank

climber
Released into general population, Idaho
Oct 12, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
Damn. That's a lot of Wallendas
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 02:09pm PT
10 four, zB.

Nature a.k.a. Doug Lafarge is my inside man, and has had some exchanges with RJ concerning other things in the past.

We've been discussing this of late.
brotherbbock

climber
Alta Loma, CA
Oct 12, 2017 - 02:18pm PT
Man that looks fun!
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 02:24pm PT
made some changes and moved it down a couple of notches

tB

I actually only ever knew Zaira and it was only a one or two minute [dangling] conversation. :}

NEXT

Jon stated it very well. It's not a huge task, but it is large.

First step would be to check with RJ to see how they feel about letting somebody get access to the database.

However, it seems like you have a goodly amount of time, so with proper planning and preservation of names then:


This:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Climbing%20Equipment/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png

Becomes this:


http://tBuster.somedomain.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Climbing%20Equipment/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png

Once the data is correctly loaded into tBuster, then a very straightforward script could be run to do the name changes for ya. This would obviate the "access" issue, since "they" could do it.


EDIT:

I don't think CMAC would have any interest in duplicating some subset of the functionality of photobucket. If he did, he'd probably have to charge for it.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 02:35pm PT
So this first item is probably less desirable anyhow, because I want to get away from photobucket:
I don't think CMAC would have any interest in duplicating some subset of the functionality of photobucket. If he did, he'd probably have to charge for it.

And I'm interpreting the solution below to be something much easier for RJ to accomplish anyhow, and from his end on the inside, because he just has to run a straightforward script:
Once the data is correctly loaded into tBuster, then a very straightforward script could be run to do the name changes for ya. This would obviate the "access" issue, since "they" could do it.

Have I got that right?
(I'm not that tech literate. I'm more of a tinker toys, finger paints, cut and paste and makin' sandwiches kind of guy ...)

 If loading the stuff to my own site comprises the larger effort, and running a straightforward script for the name changes aboard the Taco doesn't require a big ask, then it sounds possible.

Resistance on their end, to my mind, is the larger issue.
I have it on good authority that CMac ain't into much extra tinkering, if any. So whatever it is I ask of them, it has to be straightforward, perfunctory even, and clean.
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 02:57pm PT
For the example chosen


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/

Becomes this:

http://tBuster.somedomain.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/

Which looks very straightforward.

However it is necessary to take a look at the variability in the set of postings in ST and photobucket.



Here's three more


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/blodget1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/blodget4.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/ARTICLES/27d90f27-f973-468f-ab53-b7b38370895d_zpsmlcttsnc.png

Need to pin down who or what "i51" is?
Is f399 the only album tarbuster has?


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 04:16pm PT
Here's the main link to my photobucket account. It's not like any of it is something I would consider private. It's all on supertopo, almost every single photo. So perhaps to answer your questions, you can poke about if you like. I don't know how lack of my login will affect your ability to access things in there.


http://s51.photobucket.com/user/tarbuster/library/?sort=3&page=1

But to your questions:

One account, the master Bucket at the top, (which is itself an album) with a bunch of sub-albums below.
You'll notice most of the albums are public and not locked. Locking was just an afterthought, for some of the newer albums I've created.


Here's an example of three more IMG tags, with the [/img] stripped out, which I pulled from my photobucket account, each from independent albums:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Needles/Roy168a-net_zpsozsr5pup.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/PA050003.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Grossmont_zps31syavau.jpg

Need to pin down who or what "i51" is?
I don't know, but with our random samplings, it always shows up.

Is f399 the only album tarbuster has?
It would appear so. I think that designates the account, or the master Bucket at the top of the page, because each link in each independent album has the same designation.
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 13, 2017 - 08:34am PT
tB

I'm going to analogize to a big marble collection someone is storing for you. All the marbles are named and are kept in a big 50 gallon drum. Some directly in the drum, others contained within jars in the drum.

for example

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster DRUM
/Climbing%20Equipment JAR
/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png Marble


and

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster DRUM
/x41.jpg MARBLE {nice shot of bvb BTW}


We need to determine what your marbles look like when you download them out of photobucket.

I googled "download all my photos from photobucket" and there seem to be a substantial number of folks conerned about this.

You could try downloading a subset to see what you actually get. I don't know if they force you to do a 'jar' at a time.

My guess is that you will end up with a whole bunch of marbles with their photobucket names all in the place yhou choose to send them to. Having all the marbles in one place could simplify writing a script to change the linkage code in ST.

BTW, when I recounted in ST looking specifically for your "drum", I got 3973.

I seem to recall that Ed Hartouni went through something similar to this a while back when he "re-hosted" a bunch (all?) of his photos. I don't recall if they had been in photobucket.


EDIT:

Looking for just photobucket.com/ => 58,677
Forum posts => 2,451,012

Don't spill any.


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 09:02am PT
'Um Kay,

Good analogy. I'll ponder this for a bit. Maybe I'll have a chat with Ed about what he did.
And of course, I'll continue to digest any advice & ideas you have to put forth! Thanks much, zB.

For the moment, I think this sums up the Project:



Heh!
Saddle up, RoyBoy!
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 13, 2017 - 02:29pm PT

Don't let the seeming complexity get ya down. Just remeber you have a lot of time and only one little piece has to get done at a time.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 03:18pm PT
10 four.

Thanks for leading the first pitch!

Watch this space, and when I have something, we'll go from there?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 14, 2017 - 07:54pm PT
I seem to recall that Ed Hartouni went through something similar to this a while back when he "re-hosted" a bunch (all?) of his photos. I don't recall if they had been in photobucket.

not photobucket...
I was using my Comcast "website" as a way to serve documents, images, videos, etc... when Xfinity picked up Comcast (or whatever) they discontinued support for those accounts...

as old threads surface with missing images, I upload them to the STForum account... I have the images pretty well organized.

Other stuff I'm serving off of the website edhartouni.net which I might get around to using in a more active way once some of my current projects complete.

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
Thanks for chiming in Ed.
Much appreciated.

Could you clarify please:
as old threads surface with missing images, I upload them to the STForum account... I have the images pretty well organized.
^ Are you saying here, when you speak of old threads surfacing with missing images, are you talking about threads where the links no longer refer to an active location because your Comcast account is defunct?

Or are you talking about harvesting photos, which still exist to be seen in these older threads?

And third, are you following what I'm trying to accomplish here?

What I want to do, is rehost all of my photobucket photos to my own website (i.e. reestablish them in a new location), & do so in such a way that most of what is seen in each individual IMG tag is similar to what is inserted into my old threads, & then see if I can persuade RJ to write a script (or more likely, implement one I give him) that will match (or rewrite) all of those freshly hosted photos up to their historical locations in threads on this forum, (w/ their new but similar IMG tags) wherever they exist in the forum, in total.

^ (This because, Photobucket no longer accommodates third-party hosting without an exorbitant fee, and furthermore because their website has become a massive pain in the ass)
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 14, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
yes I went through the same thought process...

this would be relatively easy to accomplish if we had the ability to edit old posts, but we do not.

You could write a script to search all you STForum posts, and then have the script edit them inserting the new image address.

STForum administration once allowed us to edit, now there is a time limit.

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