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Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 02:09pm PT

10 four, zB.

Nature a.k.a. Doug Lafarge is my inside man, and has had some exchanges with RJ concerning other things in the past.

We've been discussing this of late.

brotherbbock

climber

Alta Loma, CA

Oct 12, 2017 - 02:18pm PT

Man that looks fun!

zBrown

Ice climber

Oct 12, 2017 - 02:24pm PT

made some changes and moved it down a couple of notches

tB

I actually only ever knew Zaira and it was only a one or two minute [dangling] conversation. :}

NEXT

Jon stated it very well. It's not a huge task, but it is large.

First step would be to check with RJ to see how they feel about letting somebody get access to the database.

However, it seems like you have a goodly amount of time, so with proper planning and preservation of names then:

This:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Climbing%20Equipment/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png

Becomes this:

http://tBuster.somedomain.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Climbing%20Equipment/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png

Once the data is correctly loaded into tBuster, then a very straightforward script could be run to do the name changes for ya. This would obviate the "access" issue, since "they" could do it.

EDIT:

I don't think CMAC would have any interest in duplicating some subset of the functionality of photobucket. If he did, he'd probably have to charge for it.

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 02:35pm PT

So this first item is probably less desirable anyhow, because I want to get away from photobucket:

I don't think CMAC would have any interest in duplicating some subset of the functionality of photobucket. If he did, he'd probably have to charge for it.

And I'm interpreting the solution below to be something much easier for RJ to accomplish anyhow, and from his end on the inside, because he just has to run a straightforward script:

Once the data is correctly loaded into tBuster, then a very straightforward script could be run to do the name changes for ya. This would obviate the "access" issue, since "they" could do it.

Have I got that right?
(I'm not that tech literate. I'm more of a tinker toys, finger paints, cut and paste and makin' sandwiches kind of guy ...)

If loading the stuff to my own site comprises the larger effort, and running a straightforward script for the name changes aboard the Taco doesn't require a big ask, then it sounds possible.

Resistance on their end, to my mind, is the larger issue.
I have it on good authority that CMac ain't into much extra tinkering, if any. So whatever it is I ask of them, it has to be straightforward, perfunctory even, and clean.

zBrown

Ice climber

Oct 12, 2017 - 02:57pm PT

For the example chosen

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/

Becomes this:

http://tBuster.somedomain.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/

Which looks very straightforward.

However it is necessary to take a look at the variability in the set of postings in ST and photobucket.

Here's three more

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/blodget1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/blodget4.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/ARTICLES/27d90f27-f973-468f-ab53-b7b38370895d_zpsmlcttsnc.png

Need to pin down who or what "i51" is?
Is f399 the only album tarbuster has?

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 04:16pm PT

Here's the main link to my photobucket account. It's not like any of it is something I would consider private. It's all on supertopo, almost every single photo. So perhaps to answer your questions, you can poke about if you like. I don't know how lack of my login will affect your ability to access things in there.

http://s51.photobucket.com/user/tarbuster/library/?sort=3&page=1

But to your questions:

One account, the master Bucket at the top, (which is itself an album) with a bunch of sub-albums below.
You'll notice most of the albums are public and not locked. Locking was just an afterthought, for some of the newer albums I've created.

Here's an example of three more IMG tags, with the [/img] stripped out, which I pulled from my photobucket account, each from independent albums:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Needles/Roy168a-net_zpsozsr5pup.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/roy%204/PA050003.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/Grossmont_zps31syavau.jpg

Need to pin down who or what "i51" is?

I don't know, but with our random samplings, it always shows up.

Is f399 the only album tarbuster has?

It would appear so. I think that designates the account, or the master Bucket at the top of the page, because each link in each independent album has the same designation.

zBrown

Ice climber

Oct 13, 2017 - 08:34am PT

tB

I'm going to analogize to a big marble collection someone is storing for you. All the marbles are named and are kept in a big 50 gallon drum. Some directly in the drum, others contained within jars in the drum.

for example

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster DRUM
/Climbing%20Equipment JAR
/40c755bb-6168-43db-946c-56d62fb3765e_zpsstwsgk9v.png Marble

and

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster DRUM
/x41.jpg MARBLE {nice shot of bvb BTW}

We need to determine what your marbles look like when you download them out of photobucket.

I googled "download all my photos from photobucket" and there seem to be a substantial number of folks conerned about this.

You could try downloading a subset to see what you actually get. I don't know if they force you to do a 'jar' at a time.

My guess is that you will end up with a whole bunch of marbles with their photobucket names all in the place yhou choose to send them to. Having all the marbles in one place could simplify writing a script to change the linkage code in ST.

BTW, when I recounted in ST looking specifically for your "drum", I got 3973.

I seem to recall that Ed Hartouni went through something similar to this a while back when he "re-hosted" a bunch (all?) of his photos. I don't recall if they had been in photobucket.

EDIT:

Looking for just photobucket.com/ => 58,677
Forum posts => 2,451,012

Don't spill any.

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 09:02am PT

'Um Kay,

Good analogy. I'll ponder this for a bit. Maybe I'll have a chat with Ed about what he did.
And of course, I'll continue to digest any advice & ideas you have to put forth! Thanks much, zB.

For the moment, I think this sums up the Project:

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Heh!
Saddle up, RoyBoy!

zBrown

Ice climber

Oct 13, 2017 - 02:29pm PT

Don't let the seeming complexity get ya down. Just remeber you have a lot of time and only one little piece has to get done at a time.

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 03:18pm PT

10 four.

Thanks for leading the first pitch!

Watch this space, and when I have something, we'll go from there?

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Oct 14, 2017 - 07:54pm PT

I seem to recall that Ed Hartouni went through something similar to this a while back when he "re-hosted" a bunch (all?) of his photos. I don't recall if they had been in photobucket.

not photobucket...
I was using my Comcast "website" as a way to serve documents, images, videos, etc... when Xfinity picked up Comcast (or whatever) they discontinued support for those accounts...

as old threads surface with missing images, I upload them to the STForum account... I have the images pretty well organized.

Other stuff I'm serving off of the website edhartouni.net which I might get around to using in a more active way once some of my current projects complete.

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2017 - 08:28pm PT

Thanks for chiming in Ed.
Much appreciated.

Could you clarify please:

as old threads surface with missing images, I upload them to the STForum account... I have the images pretty well organized.

^ Are you saying here, when you speak of old threads surfacing with missing images, are you talking about threads where the links no longer refer to an active location because your Comcast account is defunct?

Or are you talking about harvesting photos, which still exist to be seen in these older threads?

And third, are you following what I'm trying to accomplish here?

What I want to do, is rehost all of my photobucket photos to my own website (i.e. reestablish them in a new location), & do so in such a way that most of what is seen in each individual IMG tag is similar to what is inserted into my old threads, & then see if I can persuade RJ to write a script (or more likely, implement one I give him) that will match (or rewrite) all of those freshly hosted photos up to their historical locations in threads on this forum, (w/ their new but similar IMG tags) wherever they exist in the forum, in total.

^ (This because, Photobucket no longer accommodates third-party hosting without an exorbitant fee, and furthermore because their website has become a massive pain in the ass)

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Oct 14, 2017 - 08:42pm PT

yes I went through the same thought process...

this would be relatively easy to accomplish if we had the ability to edit old posts, but we do not.

You could write a script to search all you STForum posts, and then have the script edit them inserting the new image address.

STForum administration once allowed us to edit, now there is a time limit.

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2017 - 08:51pm PT

Yes, Ed, the limit for editing has been something like 11 days following the original post, for quite some time now.

You could write a script to search all your STForum posts, and then have the script edit them inserting the new image address.

I think this project is dependent on an ASK, wherein I wouldn't do it, but if the script could be implemented in a perfunctory fashion, RJ would do it for me on his end.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Oct 14, 2017 - 09:05pm PT

if I type this into the search box:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/tarbuster/

and search, threads with that string in them are found.

Once upon a time I had a Perl script that would search the STForum posts, and such a script would also be able to modify the posts (if permitted).

However, the robots.txt file for STForum does not allow this...
http://www.supertopo.com/robots.txt

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2017 - 09:21pm PT

Once upon a time I had a Perl script that would search the STForum posts, and such a script would also be able to modify the posts (if permitted).

However, the robots.txt file for STForum does not allow this...

Got it. Thanks.

Is there an alternative approach?

What happened to all of your threads (or those of others to which you added photos) once you re-hosted the photos?
Did you simply lose all of your photographic contributions to those threads and just live with it?

neebee

Social climber

calif/texas

Oct 14, 2017 - 10:28pm PT

hey there say, tarbuster... wow, i hope you all get this sorted out...

say, zbrown, nice to see you helping here, and ed, too...

oh my, tech stuff, and i have heard about the new pricey photobucket, too...

again, hope you get things worked out...

also, side note, wow, this is FUN!, :)

Do you think my mom knows that's how that misspent youth went?
I've tried mightily to cover my tracks. But you know, like when I was 3 1/2 and hid half my spaghetti dinner inside the torn seat cushions of our dining set, I think she knows ...

ALSO, loved that wallenda family tree, say,
what brought that up, by the way??

happy good eve, to you all, :)

Tarbuster

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2017 - 08:37am PT

neebs said:

also, side note, wow, this is FUN!, :)

Thanks! I also find that fun and funny! But that's no side note, cowgirl, that's an on target anecdote about where all this climbing came from, and where it went!

My father used to mark my memories as extending before I was two years old. My formative years are very crisp in my mind. I think that's partly why I was a good climbing guide (probably the only line of work I've entertained which could be called a profession); namely, because I've never forgotten what it's like to be young, clumsy, and inexperienced, and those not so distant memories, like lines in the palm of my hand, always helped me to empathize with what my clients were seeing and feeling as they were trying to learn the ropes, as it were.

He, my pops, had quite the memory for anecdotes himself.

Here's a story for you about ol' Rodger, who, by the way, pretty much from the start, always called me cowboy:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1657112&msg=2802957#msg2802957

………………………………………………………………

As to the flying Wallenda clan, I was just riffing off of zBrown's mention of an 84-year-old trapeze artist up thread.
https://www.facebook.com/NBCSanDiego/videos/10154833311829609/

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Oct 15, 2017 - 10:40am PT

What happened to all of your threads (or those of others to which you added photos) once you re-hosted the photos?
Did you simply lose all of your photographic contributions to those threads and just live with it?

when threads come up with image links broken, I post the new links in a new post...
if the threads don't come up they remain broken.

I could search for them and restore them to every thread, but I figure that STForum isn't that interested since they haven't provided a way to relink images.

I don't consider STForum an enduring archive of climbing material.