why does everyone hate christianity so much?

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72hw

Trad climber
Pasadena, CA
Apr 13, 2009 - 04:56pm PT
I love Christianity... they have wacky things like this:

Ritualized cannibalism - Communion (Drink my blood, eat my flesh)

and

Zombie Day - Easter (I mean come on, a dood rises from the grave?)
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:00pm PT
Ya know, 72hw, most of Jesus' close friends were killed in pretty horrific ways. Don't know if I would undergo something like that to promote a myth. Jess thinkin' out loud here. Lynne

Actually we drink wine or grape juice at communion and Jesus said this is my body....not flesh. :D Peace
apogee

climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:02pm PT
Jaybro, that is some funny shizzle.
72hw

Trad climber
Pasadena, CA
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:02pm PT
Lynne - you are not making a very good case for me to become a friend of Jesus... jess sayin.

;-)
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:04pm PT
The communist body count is around 149 million people.

http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/communistbodycount.php

The only “Christian” conflict that makes the Wiki list is the 30 years war with a upper limit of about 11 ˝ million. (probably half that) And this was really a straight nation state political conflict over territory and resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_toll

I’m not going to go thru the exercise of weeding out all the duplicates, eliminating the purely political slaughters and adding up the numbers, but I’d bet you can’t come up with a list that is remotely purely “Christian “ that exceeds 15 million from 800to 1700. Only the French religious wars and the Thirty Years war make the list of major conflicts and they only total 10 million between them. Stalin did better than twice that all by himself. The death toll from the Inquisition was 31,000 by some pretty good official record keeping. Most of the toll from the Crusades were Europeans killed by Arabs in Europe, that was around 2 million.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#30YrW

So, find another myth to flog.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:05pm PT
"most of Jesus' close friends were killed in pretty horrific ways."

So were a lot of David Koresh's close friends... A cult is a cult. What's your point?
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:06pm PT
that is a pretty huge brush a lot of you have. you realize obama is a *gasp* christian? Where's the posse?
the Fet

Supercaliyosemistic climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
christmas - winter solstice celebaration, can't stop it, take it over, pretend Jesus's birthday was on it, keep the tree and other pagan traditions, complain that it's being secularized.
t*r

Trad climber
Galilee
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
jaybro, yea! i'm so glad that instead of going to ride my gay tray all day i went to church w/g-ma :)
flying monkey

Trad climber
mount shasta, california
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:11pm PT
Because there is a propaganda war against it... Simply replace the word religion or Christianity with the word 'democracy' and you'll get a much clearer picture of what's really going on, who's starting the wars, shoving ideals down peoples throats and all the rest. People are so brainwashed, they think religion is bad because it puts rules on their activities yet they are perfectly willing to let their government(without moral guidance) do exactly that.
This country was founded on God given rights, It is the job of our government to protect those rights not regulate us into oblivion.
Get with the times, atheism is the new religion complete with it's dogma known as evolution.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:17pm PT
The Dogma is Statisim not evolution.

They have a hard time with a few founding principles

When in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed,
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
I hate Christianity because its based on a myth, and what I consider; a lie

There is no proof that any in the bible is the true story of what happened.
Its been changed 1000 times to suit the present day circumstances

Its easy to see how a whole business can be set up around the lie and to keep the flock in check with grim prospects of hell fire if those liberals try to convince you of your folly.

The paradox of Satan, he will get you if you let up your guard and let reality seep in
So you convince yourself, that you must try harder to brainwash yourself that the whole Christianity thing is true
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
Why do you feel compelled to "hate" it then instead of simply ignore it?

What about the concept of natural rights?

Is that a myth also?

No wonder you want everyone to be a slave to your concept of a utopian state.
t*r

Trad climber
Galilee
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2009 - 05:39pm PT
if you guys start fighting i'm going to take my toys and go home!
Kofi Donny Annan

climber
darkest of africa
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
another essential thread germain to our rock climber's existence

i love that you have the right to post whatever willy-nilly thought pops into your head. this one is better than most, but still falls under the heading of "political drivel that waters down Super Topo"

Kofi edit- lotsa people enjoying this thread. so I apologize for being grumpy 'cause clearly the peanut gallery likes this one. Go figure
Gene

climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:45pm PT
What is this Christianity stuff anyway? I'd like to hear your views.

Thanks,
gm
mt10910

climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:45pm PT
spanish inquistion
mt10910

climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:46pm PT
manifest destiney 20 million killed for jesus
mt10910

climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:46pm PT
the war in iraq is offically a christain vs muslim war based on our general's opinion
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 13, 2009 - 05:50pm PT
"There is no proof that any in the bible is the true story of what happened."
Your grammar makes this very difficult to understand, so I have to guess what you are insinuating. The cities and locations (and hills and tombs and confrontation with Roman empire and rivers and lakes and continuity with egyptian history and etc etc etc..) have architectural remains, and always have.

"Its been changed 1000 times to suit the present day circumstances"

I believe you are confused with the book of mormon. The 'bible' was written by people, that actually exhisted, and copied in constantininople (how the hell you spell that) following the fall of the Roman Empire until monks were translating the exact same words when Shakespeare got ahold of it. He re-wrote it in 'common english' (both the original texts of the guttenburg and artifacts containing the original copies hand made are in museums the world over) where it stands today. The king james bible is still available, as is its latin counterparts. The phrases have been changed to fit the modern dialect (no more Thees and Thou's etc) into several variations, depending on the demographic, but the most common is the NIV (new international version). The phrasing is all that is changed, the message is and has always been the same. Whether the translation is across languages or dialects, the same thing is being said as had been said a thousand years ago.


So, in closing, you are just another angry hippy shouting drivel. Hate all you want, but c'mon man, do some research first :D
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