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GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:38am PT

Large jpg's dont 'crash' computers. They take a ton of random active memory (RAM) to load, in conjunction with an internet connection that gathers said data.

From fixing computers at an amateur level for quite some time, I can tell you that opening large files does cause computers to crash because of this reason:

People.

When the average person loads a huge file, as it is recieving and sending the large amount of data, the computer *locks up* because the CPU usage is closing in on being maxxed out. Just like a climber becoming hypothermic, certain functions are slowed down to a crawl to manage the incoming load of information. What this average person does is a host of CTRL-ALT-Deletes, right-clicks on icons, alt-tabs, and a score of other actions to try to tell the computer to 'do something else.' this only compounds the problem, slowing it more, until the user does the inevitable press-the-power-button-with-all-your-might and loses any unsaved data.

I have a 340 dollar laptop, and Russ' images did not kill this peice of junk. It was unfortunate that it bugged out on you, and that sh!t happens, but keep in mind that if it wasn't Russ that killed your 'pooter, any number of flash-driven websites you inadvertantly try to load in the future will. Best bet? Buy some more RAM, get a decent web connection, and sell your iPhone (C'mon, people actually bought that?)

This all reminds me of those Mac commercials - "it just works!"

no, no it doesn't. PC - 11,438. Mac - 0.

GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:44am PT

A note on viruses and external attacks:

No one can directly affect your computer without you allowing it. This is a fact. Treat everything you click on like a shotgun-toting dad does with his daughters prom date. Did someone named 'Mike' (do you know a Mike?) REALLy send you an email saying "hey, I just got this great offer!" or is it probably someone trying to phish your account information?

There is nothing in the known universe that can be put into the context of a forum thread post that can affect your computer in the ways you've described. You have to physically click a link to a phishing site or allow a program to start up. If you have even a halfway decent web protection program, it will alert you that a file is about to executed, are you sure you want to continue (i have mine set on uber-nazi settings, so I have to hit "continue" like 3 or 4 times to install the new Java).

What I'm trying to say, philo, is that your safe here, so stick around.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:45am PT

Speaking of cheap computers, I was hoping to use the trusty ol' 1 Ghz Dell Pentium III laptop
with 256 MB of RAM to load that thread, but it appears the "bombs" were deleted, perhaps
due to the imminent FBI raid of Supertopo headquarters. I bet I could have done it!

Fish Finder

Social climber

THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:47am PT

What you need to understand from all this is that the intent was to slow the opening of the thread. That is it.

The fact that several people had problems does not mean that Russ knew it would happen and thats is why he did it. No Malice .

We all have the freedom of speech.

Also note. No one was injured (just egos) and philo stated he wasnt effected but he was the one who cried the most and his threats were "at the least laughable". FBI FBI FBI

At the time of this posting the original thread in questions drifts off to page three...
oh yeah. dont open it if you aint got the memeory. Ha Ha HA

Those who did have problems should thank Russ for bringing it to their attention.

GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:48am PT

Easily could have, as long as you don't have ten thousand other things running.

A good check is to (while you have few programs running) go to task manager and see what Processes you have going on. Sometimes the little programs you think are cool and bitchin (like the one that tells you what the weather is in Costa Rica on your sidebar) take anywhere from 6k to 90k of your memory(!!!). Avoid the slowtrain early methinks.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:59am PT

It was a joke meant to get peoples attention.

It did cause problems for zip and Russ did apologize. Sometimes jokes backfire. That is life and you move on.

Hopefully some folks will realize what a rough situation that Philo is dealing with and cut him some slack. Who wouldn't get a little bent and have a hard time understanding a joke if they were facing having their leg amputated. That is some heavy sh#t.

Hey Philo, don't leave. How about getting a cheapy computer to surf the taco with? I bet someone here has one they would give you or sell to you cheap. What do you say?

GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 03:09am PT

Well, as usual it looks like I came into the show late. Just read the whole original thread.

Wow. Just wow. This will feel like a hangover in the morning.

GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 03:17am PT

How would I know, locker?

I WEAR EVULVS!!!!!LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

man im tyred. The nyquil is giving me the fear.

survival

Big Wall climber

A Token of My Extreme

Apr 11, 2009 - 04:33am PT

Philo,

I certainly hope everything works out as far as your leg goes.
That is serious and I know it weighs on you. Old injuries have a way of coming back around the mountain that way.

We are here for you as you come lurking through from time to time.

The 12 step program for ST posters will be hell, just remember, one day at a time...meeting makers make it, and stuff like that.

Phil came through for the Cosmic Banditos when we were in a tight spot for wheels on our RMNP reunion tour. We were just out of money for extras and a 3 week car rental would have taken more than all the fun money we had.

The old dirtbag brought us in out of the cold with some reliable wheels of his own and saved the day. There was gas and mead money on our expidition because of Phil.

His name is chiseled on the Bandito sacred stone tablets.
He is welcome to share my food and drink from the same cup as Survival Instructors like Ouch! say, anytime, anywhere.

Now if only we can do something about that hot running closet Arab blood of his.......

Phil, come back under a new handle if you have to, but then you'll have to guard your text so we won't know it's you.
Damn...................

jbar

Social climber

urasymptote

Apr 11, 2009 - 05:02am PT

Check out your open processes. Was it the jpeg that froze your cpu or did it have something to do with your Appleupdater, ipodservices, hpupdater, applemobiledeviceservice, bonour, etc????
Aint all those apple gadgets great??

"Knott backing up your stuff is your fault, and your fault alone."

When you're working don't surf the net!

couchmaster

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 10:32am PT

I called the FBI and they say they never heard of Philo. I found that surprising given his rabid pro-Palestinian stance and thousands of anti-Israel posts, and Philos description of being harassed by Israeli secret service people on more than one occasion - but maybe we have the FBI and the Israeli lobby all wrong. He must have called in and they declined to investigate any alleged "Fish thread bomb" wherein a large file was posted to a piece of sh#t no-climbing thread causing Philo to lose his work cause he didn't save his work and has a slow computer. I had successfully posted to that thread a couple of posts under Russ wondering why Russ didn't make the Sun larger. Didn't effect my POS puter at all but it was slowwwwwww loading fer sure. However, I am running an antique Dell Optiplex that is at least 10 years old that I bought used, has Windows 2000 of course, I had upgraded the memory to 512.

But I have a Revolution 7.0 sound card pushing Klipsch speakers that will rock the neighbors house when cranked and JUST RULE!

*breaking news* ...it wasn't Russ's fault as it turned out, this: like all things Philo has complained about, this too can be laid at George Bushes feet. Turns out that he once vetoed a bill that would have made posting large files illegal.

So it was Bush who is ultimately responsible, I repeat, Bush.
Have a nice day.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:37pm PT

Couchmaster - ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

You might be a master of the couch - but yer comedy is gold...

Jack Burns

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:45pm PT

that sucks, philo. i always loved your Black Canyon stories, although i think getting off this chossy roadcut of an internet forum will be healthy for you and make you happier. i sincerely wish all the best in your life offline and hope to maybe meet you one day in the Other Ditch.

that said, i'm sorta with Russ on this one. the great posts and trip reports get buried in a massive sea of dreck, mostly a bunch of self-agrandizing "dig me" posts. i used to be able to sort out the cool stuff and bookmark it on del.icio.us but it gets time consuming when you have to sort though a bunch other "look at how smart/witty/politically informed i am on the internets" garbage. hope i don't offend anyone else into ragequitting the taco but it really sucks with all the great content on this site. too bad everyone here is all against splitting the forums.

WBraun

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:54pm PT

The forum should be split in two.

One all the climbing stuff and the other all the other stuff.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:56pm PT

Climbing in one section and ridiculous soap-operas in the other?

Howard Parker

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:18pm PT

Locker, check the Concord BART holding cell, last I heard. You can assume that grumpy feds directly patrol this site.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:25pm PT

"The forum should be split in two.

One all the climbing stuff and the other all the other stuff."

Werner, I AGREE....

Just one simple change though. Have a climbing section but have all threads ALSO go to the regular section. The climbing stuff would be in a section of its own, but it would also be posted in the full forum. That way we would have the best of both worlds. Everyone would be together in the full forum, climbing, political, religious, LEB, plus those threads labeled climbing would get put in their own section.

Anytime a climbing thread was posted to in the climbing section, that thread would jump to the head of the climbing section, it would ALSO jump to the head of the full section.

This would give us the BEST of both worlds.