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Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 06:45pm PT
Say it ain't so!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Apr 10, 2009 - 06:45pm PT
So, Philo, have you found a good 12-point program?




The Taco is addictive. ChrisMac should be jailed for the subversive nature of the site.
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Apr 10, 2009 - 07:01pm PT



You know what they say if you cant stand the heat ......


It seems it will be best as you cant read very well .
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:02pm PT
Hey Philo;

What a bummer.

I do hope you reconsider.



Dwain
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:18pm PT
You can come over to my place & lurk.
No one will ever know...
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:19pm PT
He'll be back!!!

You can bet on it........


Hey, I got an idea.....
WBraun

climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:26pm PT
Another great warrior dies on the battlefield of the internet?

Was his heart mortally wounded by Russ's harsh words and my relentless attacks against against his accusations of Russ's "malicious intent" against the "Innocents"?

In the world each step is like walking on razor blades, danger at every step, with very little refuge to be found in this material jungle we've created?

In the deep forest it is far far safer.

We mourn the fallen .......




matty

Big Wall climber
Valencia, CA
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:34pm PT
"Goodbye, cruel world,
Im leaving you today.
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.

Goodbye all you people,
Theres nothing you can say,
To make me change my mind.
Goodbye."

You will be missed!!!
Tami

Social climber
Vancouver, Canada
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:35pm PT
Werner in the deep forest you better have your pet Chihuahua
( q/v thread long sank )
Cheers, Tami
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:36pm PT
Phil,

I just got back to the house. So i have no idea where this came from. I'll have to do some reading after I get the family to bed.

You should NOT bail. Of course I understand how we can get so wound up over words in this here 'lectric picture radio, but c'mon man, sleep on it and please reconsider.
Email me,
Bruce
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:37pm PT
I am sooooo out of the LOOP...

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:38pm PT
hey philo
You best reconsider, ya hear?
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:43pm PT
I OBVIOUSLY missed SOMETHING...



EDIT:

why is Philo "Splitting"???...



Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
The FBI will be issuing a report - until then it's on a need to know basis...
Chaz

Trad climber
Boss Angeles
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:48pm PT
FBI's busy right now.

President Obama sent them to Somalia to get after those pirates.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:52pm PT
"and my relentless attacks against against his accusations of Russ's "malicious intent" against the "Innocents"?"...


So here I am...

being my ASSHOLE self...

TRYING to get a NON CLIMBER off this, the "CLIMBERS FORUM"...

(and catching HELL for it might I add)...

and in a FLASH...

a CLIMBER is LEAVING the "CLIMBERS FORUM"...



How's that work???...






EDIT:

What am I doing wrong???...

;-/
WBraun

climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 08:57pm PT
Locker

Russ gave him a real hard straight verbal jab to the head which made him woozy. His legs buckled and went down for the count.

When he came too all he saw was the exit door to the arena.

Stepped outside and everything was still spinning.

He's at Longs drugs store looking for the aspirin isle.

Until then ........
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:01pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXEAPRy4OA&feature=related
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:01pm PT

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7_T095ja78

You don't have to go.....
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:08pm PT
I've got my "Notepad" out...

I find ALL of this VERY interesting...

maybe through this "Thread"...

I will FINALLY understand


what "Climbing"...



















REALLY...















MEANS...













I MUST...

































ABSORB...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:10pm PT
No way Philo's leaving. It's a Troll or He's saying bye to someone else. :D, right Dude ?

"Why Would Philo Leave"? (Title of new best seller on the New York Times list.) He's a tough, sturdy Dude, seemingly impervious to the flotsam and jetsom of the ebb and flow of the Taco....

So Philo, what up ?
matty

Big Wall climber
Valencia, CA
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:12pm PT
"What am I doing wrong???..."

You're part of what's RIGHT about this forum Locker, don't let a few people on the internet get to ya.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
WBraun, new member of the sportscast team for Tacoland. Best color commentator of 2009....so far. Hehe :D lrl
Brunosafari

Boulder climber
OR
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:17pm PT
Philo is a person I do greatly respect. If Philo needs a break for some fresh air, I'm behind him all the way.

But check back in before too long, Philo and Happy Easter to you and your family and friends. Bruce Adams
TradIsGood

Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:18pm PT
"Goodbye" is one word.

Come back when you have something to say and have learned to spell of at least know how to use a spell- checker.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:23pm PT
Philo is having a f-in rough time, people. He's facing the possibility of losing his leg.

Don't go, Phil.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:26pm PT
RE READ THE WHOLE THING AND SEE IF YOU FIND IT AS FUNNY AS I DO...


"Goodbye" is one word.

Come back when you have something to say and have learned to spell OF at least know how to use a spell- checker.

~~~TIG
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:30pm PT
Terri, serious ??? Then we need to be behind the man and do what we can .... I will start with prayer .... Lynne
WBraun

climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:30pm PT
TIG -- Pretty harsh.

You really know how to hit guy hard while he's down.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:33pm PT
Reap what you sow?
Mimi

climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:33pm PT
philo, you can't leave if this is true. You need the support of friends and family to help get you through this. This is serious business.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:41pm PT
reap what yo sow...thankfully, knott. Learned when Dan died that the only thing we have on this planet is our life (which is not guarenteed for tomorrow) and the people around us. So take care of the ones around you...whether you agree with each other or knott, we are all we have. Peace and loving the Joy in life when we care about each other. :D lynne

Edit: Philo, if you are indeed having health issues please feel free to email me anytime.....really, lynne
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:45pm PT
Is this a suicide intervention?

Otherwise, it's all so dramatic...
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 09:56pm PT
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:09pm PT
having spent the better part of 20+ years in the healthcare profession...let me tell you losing a body part is beyond hard.

If this really is what is happenin' we all need to rally the wagons. Peace, lynne
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:26pm PT
"Reap what you sow?"...



SOW what???...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:29pm PT
r u sirius?
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:29pm PT
That is a unusual post for him.

I can understand if he goes, sometimes you just realize that the hundred hours a month just isn't worth it. But he was a good poster. A guys got to do what he's got to do.

Give him some air.


And stuff Fish in a trunk.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:32pm PT
"r u sirius?"...

know...

it was a "SOW SOW" pun of sorts...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:39pm PT
I don't know about much. But think it would be a good idea to take a deep breath when the sheee hits the fan here on Tacoland.

We type words... but we are not always connecting and communicating with the words. So think mayhap we can take a deep breath one more time and not condemn and accuse but discuss and have discourse and listen and learn and maybe even forgive.

Makes life work in a better and much bigger dimension. Peace and more Peace, lynne

Say, that's what Easter is all about ...Happy E. :DD
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:41pm PT
"Come back when you have something to say and have learned to spell of at least know how to use a spell- checker."

If you're going to attack someone's spelling, your own spelling better be perfect. "of" should be "or." Also, there can be a space or a dash in spellchecker, but not both.
nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:45pm PT
Philo,
Hope you come back at some point. Take care, i will miss you...good luck with your health problems..

Salud, xo...nita.


locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:47pm PT
"If you're going to attack someone's spelling, your own spelling better be perfect. "of" should be "or."..."...



a little LATE on that CATCH...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:50pm PT
Knott backing up your stuff is your fault, and your fault alone.

When you are working, whether it be typing a document or editing video,
simply hitting ctrl-S (Windows) or Command-S (Mac) will save your work
to disk. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT DOING THIS AT LEAST EVERY FEW MINUTES.

You sir, have heaped a shít-ton of vitriol and petty name-calling upon others on this
forum, so you're knott gonna get much sympathy from me. Of course most if knott
all of people offering support are those who have met you personally; however the
vast majority of us only know you from your posts here.

Good luck and have a nice life!
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:50pm PT
CALLING NATURE!!!...

It's TIME dude...


This place is "ret ta go!!!"...



Start Brewing!!!...













































"You're gonna need a BIGGER coffee pot!!!"...

TradIsGood

Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:52pm PT
Good luck.

Kind of silly to quit over W-Bombs though. He has a history of that.

Every once in a while he gets delusions of moderator or he has his own troll style.

Just bump to post number to modulus 20 equals one. Nobody looks at the stuff in the middle anyway.

Or as the old saying goes..
Don't let the door hit you in the rss on the way out.

:-)
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:54pm PT
Philo, feeling the pain out there. Life hurts and sucks at times...been in it and am in it...but life is ...and we need to live it. God, family and friends can help us do it. There is a good life out there for you, no matter what the bad happens. Really ! I know. :)

Can't tell you how many times an unknown ST person has emailed me and lifted my day so I could have a smile and go on. Keep on Dude....we are with you.

Edit: I have never met Philo and don't even know his real name or part of the country he is from. He is human....he hurts...someday each one of us will. Who will be there ?
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:55pm PT
"Every once in a while he gets delusions of moderator"...




The NERVE of THAT guy...





EDIT:

HEY!!!...

wait just one second...

WASN'T I "Accused" of that recently...



HINT TO SELF:

MUST RETHINK ABOVE COMMENT...


locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:57pm PT
I THINK I can SEE where this is ALL going...

and it MIGHT solve ALL the PROBLEMS here of LATE...

I get RID of ALL the...

NON CLIMBERS...

Russ get's RID of all the...

CLIMBERS...

NO ONE LEFT...

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!...
couchmaster

climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:18pm PT
philo said:
April 10th 10:38 pm

I feel you are due an explanation.


This will be my last post on SuperTopo. I will explain but please don't bother asking me to reconsider. I have already deleted my photobucket account and asked Chris Mac to permanently delete all my posts. I will be forwarding him this post directly as well.

First I want to say that I have gained a great deal and enjoyed ST for the past 3+ years. I admire many of you very much and have been enriched by your contributions. I have had some tremendous feedback on my essays and cartoons for which I am eternally grateful. I have also received as many kicks in the face as anyone here because of my outspoken political views particularly regarding the Middle East. That is a very intensely personal issue for me and my family. I know of no other STer who lost 5 family members and 6 friends in the war on Gaza as my wife has. Yet even the rhetoric and direct attacks on me were not a problem. I consider that small price to pay for speaking what I believe is the truth . Certainly I am tough enough to with stand any of those slings and arrows. And I would never leave the TacoStand because my feelings were hurt. But this latest episode goes beyond the pale and I am gone.

I am leaving because of a particularly childish stunt perpetrated by Russ Walling.
In his disdain for and distaste of OT threads he posted jpegs so large as to cause several ST folks' MacBooks and IPhones to crash. Then he proceeded to warn every one off of OT threads by threatening more of the same.
Though I fortunately saw Neebees' warning before opening the offending file this threat directly effects me in many ways.
Over the last 5 years I have spent thousands of dollars on computer equipment repair and replacement. In the last 18 months alone I have had 3 laptops crash and take all of my stuff with them. I am talking about all my photos, art, toons, essays and all of my business, everything. I lost further thousands of additional dollars on lost time for data base rebuilding. As well as penalties for delinquency in corporate tax reporting. All of my computer failures were not from your average worms and viruses but from deliberate malicious external attacks. All were top of the line PC systems. Due to this I had recently switched to a Mac as they were considered safer from attack. And I added an external hard drive as well. Still the work involved is far greater than some would imagine. Then I read WARNINGS of a file on a particular OT thread crashing Macs and IPhones. Russ and several others think this was funny. Trust me I was not amused. I just cannot afford to participate in a forum where any given thread may lose my data or shut me down even for a day. As in climbing there should be an inherent trust between participants. This trust, for me at least, has been broken. Russ' lame "stunt' was perceived by me as a threat to my business as any shut down costs me more than I can recover. And a risk to my creative endeavors as I compose directly in a stream of thought process. It is Impractical to bog down my computer by backing up every minute. It was, for me, the equivalent of trundling a rock when there wer climbers below..
Russ' beef was with OT threads and there in lies the rub. They obviously generate a great deal of attention. I can't imagine the multitudes of hits is a bad thing for CMac and ST. As much as many of them are utter tripe a great many OT threads have real value at least to those who participated. Tarbuster got contacted by OT posters with potentially invaluable medical information. I asked for and got important surgical information. Even though she and I have fought like bad children at times LEB came through for me on that one. Often we here on the Taco have shared condolences for our loses and support for our fears. And all on OT threads. What is wrong with that? Do they get out of hand and drift wildly at times? Of course. Do they get petty and ugly at times? Absolutely. And what is wrong with that? Did any one else out there grow up in a family? Did you at times fight likes bad siblings? Did you come back together for support when tragedy struck or the sh#t hit the fan? Anything wrong with that?
Look at the heading of this page. It clearly states...
SuperTopo Climber’s Forum.
Not SuperTopo Climbing Forum.
It was the diversity of this site that I found so appealing and intriguing. The open opportunity to share, banter and argue with a widely diverse group of tremendously interesting folks from all over the world. It was amazing! Ostensibly what Russ is saying by his words and deeds is that since he doesn't like them everyone else should stay away from OT threads. Well who elected him BlogCzar? I can't risk opening up a thread I may be interested in and watching my screen go black. Can any of you? And if fear keeps us away from dialogue, even unpleasant dialogue, isn't that just a pernicious form of censorship?
So Fare Well all. Phil Broscovak


Phil, I'm sure Russ didn't think your life would be ruined and you would lose all your data. Never happened before when a large file gets posted. (I think Russ posted a picture of the Sun...very very large but not full sized) You called the FBI and homeland security, but they weren't interested and now you're pissed. The rest of us back up our stuff regularly. After losing 3 computers you have not learned this yet? I know you cannot respond or your self imposed vow would fall to sh#t, but think that over. Hard drives die. Back your stuff up.

Take care
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
In all this scintillating drama that has unfolded today, I forgot to ask:

Did any of you drama-queens bother trying alt + F4 (Windows) or Command + Option + esc (Mac)
when your RAM-deficient computers had their browsers "freeze"? How long did you wait before
you "threw in the towel?

Ever hear of virtual memory?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
I just made a gallon of double espresso. But I need a bigger pipe. Or longer for more head.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:28pm PT
Nobody lost any data from their hard drives. Zip lost only unsaved data.
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:38pm PT
Large jpg's dont 'crash' computers. They take a ton of random active memory (RAM) to load, in conjunction with an internet connection that gathers said data.

From fixing computers at an amateur level for quite some time, I can tell you that opening large files does cause computers to crash because of this reason:

People.


When the average person loads a huge file, as it is recieving and sending the large amount of data, the computer *locks up* because the CPU usage is closing in on being maxxed out. Just like a climber becoming hypothermic, certain functions are slowed down to a crawl to manage the incoming load of information. What this average person does is a host of CTRL-ALT-Deletes, right-clicks on icons, alt-tabs, and a score of other actions to try to tell the computer to 'do something else.' this only compounds the problem, slowing it more, until the user does the inevitable press-the-power-button-with-all-your-might and loses any unsaved data.


I have a 340 dollar laptop, and Russ' images did not kill this peice of junk. It was unfortunate that it bugged out on you, and that sh!t happens, but keep in mind that if it wasn't Russ that killed your 'pooter, any number of flash-driven websites you inadvertantly try to load in the future will. Best bet? Buy some more RAM, get a decent web connection, and sell your iPhone (C'mon, people actually bought that?)


This all reminds me of those Mac commercials - "it just works!"

no, no it doesn't. PC - 11,438. Mac - 0.
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:44pm PT
A note on viruses and external attacks:


No one can directly affect your computer without you allowing it. This is a fact. Treat everything you click on like a shotgun-toting dad does with his daughters prom date. Did someone named 'Mike' (do you know a Mike?) REALLy send you an email saying "hey, I just got this great offer!" or is it probably someone trying to phish your account information?


There is nothing in the known universe that can be put into the context of a forum thread post that can affect your computer in the ways you've described. You have to physically click a link to a phishing site or allow a program to start up. If you have even a halfway decent web protection program, it will alert you that a file is about to executed, are you sure you want to continue (i have mine set on uber-nazi settings, so I have to hit "continue" like 3 or 4 times to install the new Java).


What I'm trying to say, philo, is that your safe here, so stick around.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:45pm PT
Speaking of cheap computers, I was hoping to use the trusty ol' 1 Ghz Dell Pentium III laptop
with 256 MB of RAM to load that thread, but it appears the "bombs" were deleted, perhaps
due to the imminent FBI raid of Supertopo headquarters. I bet I could have done it!
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:47pm PT
What you need to understand from all this is that the intent was to slow the opening of the thread. That is it.

The fact that several people had problems does not mean that Russ knew it would happen and thats is why he did it. No Malice .

We all have the freedom of speech.

Also note. No one was injured (just egos) and philo stated he wasnt effected but he was the one who cried the most and his threats were "at the least laughable". FBI FBI FBI

At the time of this posting the original thread in questions drifts off to page three...
oh yeah. dont open it if you aint got the memeory. Ha Ha HA

Those who did have problems should thank Russ for bringing it to their attention.



GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:48pm PT
Easily could have, as long as you don't have ten thousand other things running.

A good check is to (while you have few programs running) go to task manager and see what Processes you have going on. Sometimes the little programs you think are cool and bitchin (like the one that tells you what the weather is in Costa Rica on your sidebar) take anywhere from 6k to 90k of your memory(!!!). Avoid the slowtrain early methinks.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Apr 10, 2009 - 11:59pm PT
It was a joke meant to get peoples attention.

It did cause problems for zip and Russ did apologize. Sometimes jokes backfire. That is life and you move on.

Hopefully some folks will realize what a rough situation that Philo is dealing with and cut him some slack. Who wouldn't get a little bent and have a hard time understanding a joke if they were facing having their leg amputated. That is some heavy sh#t.

Hey Philo, don't leave. How about getting a cheapy computer to surf the taco with? I bet someone here has one they would give you or sell to you cheap. What do you say?

GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 12:09am PT
Well, as usual it looks like I came into the show late. Just read the whole original thread.


Wow. Just wow. This will feel like a hangover in the morning.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 12:11am PT
MAYBE this is a SENSITIVE question...

But...

Was the FBI really called???...

If so...

dude...

ROFL!!!...

GOOD GOING!!!...

"One Adam Bluto OVER and OUT!!!"...
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 12:15am PT
Hey GDavis...


you AIN't stepped in no sh!t yet, have ya???...


NOT a good thing to "Step in SH!T"...
GDavis

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 12:17am PT
How would I know, locker?

















I WEAR EVULVS!!!!!LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

man im tyred. The nyquil is giving me the fear.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 12:21am PT
your point is VALID oh so SMELLY one...

survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Apr 11, 2009 - 01:33am PT
Philo,

I certainly hope everything works out as far as your leg goes.
That is serious and I know it weighs on you. Old injuries have a way of coming back around the mountain that way.

We are here for you as you come lurking through from time to time.

The 12 step program for ST posters will be hell, just remember, one day at a time...meeting makers make it, and stuff like that.

Phil came through for the Cosmic Banditos when we were in a tight spot for wheels on our RMNP reunion tour. We were just out of money for extras and a 3 week car rental would have taken more than all the fun money we had.

The old dirtbag brought us in out of the cold with some reliable wheels of his own and saved the day. There was gas and mead money on our expidition because of Phil.

His name is chiseled on the Bandito sacred stone tablets.
He is welcome to share my food and drink from the same cup as Survival Instructors like Ouch! say, anytime, anywhere.

Now if only we can do something about that hot running closet Arab blood of his.......

Phil, come back under a new handle if you have to, but then you'll have to guard your text so we won't know it's you.
Damn...................
jbar

Social climber
urasymptote
Apr 11, 2009 - 02:02am PT
Check out your open processes. Was it the jpeg that froze your cpu or did it have something to do with your Appleupdater, ipodservices, hpupdater, applemobiledeviceservice, bonour, etc????
Aint all those apple gadgets great??

"Knott backing up your stuff is your fault, and your fault alone."

When you're working don't surf the net!
couchmaster

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 07:32am PT
I called the FBI and they say they never heard of Philo. I found that surprising given his rabid pro-Palestinian stance and thousands of anti-Israel posts, and Philos description of being harassed by Israeli secret service people on more than one occasion - but maybe we have the FBI and the Israeli lobby all wrong. He must have called in and they declined to investigate any alleged "Fish thread bomb" wherein a large file was posted to a piece of sh#t no-climbing thread causing Philo to lose his work cause he didn't save his work and has a slow computer. I had successfully posted to that thread a couple of posts under Russ wondering why Russ didn't make the Sun larger. Didn't effect my POS puter at all but it was slowwwwwww loading fer sure. However, I am running an antique Dell Optiplex that is at least 10 years old that I bought used, has Windows 2000 of course, I had upgraded the memory to 512.

But I have a Revolution 7.0 sound card pushing Klipsch speakers that will rock the neighbors house when cranked and JUST RULE!

*breaking news* ...it wasn't Russ's fault as it turned out, this: like all things Philo has complained about, this too can be laid at George Bushes feet. Turns out that he once vetoed a bill that would have made posting large files illegal.

So it was Bush who is ultimately responsible, I repeat, Bush.
Have a nice day.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 08:49am PT
Where are they "HOLDING" Russ...(FBI)



I'd like to go "VISIT"...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 09:37am PT
Couchmaster - ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

You might be a master of the couch - but yer comedy is gold...
Jack Burns

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 09:45am PT
that sucks, philo. i always loved your Black Canyon stories, although i think getting off this chossy roadcut of an internet forum will be healthy for you and make you happier. i sincerely wish all the best in your life offline and hope to maybe meet you one day in the Other Ditch.

that said, i'm sorta with Russ on this one. the great posts and trip reports get buried in a massive sea of dreck, mostly a bunch of self-agrandizing "dig me" posts. i used to be able to sort out the cool stuff and bookmark it on del.icio.us but it gets time consuming when you have to sort though a bunch other "look at how smart/witty/politically informed i am on the internets" garbage. hope i don't offend anyone else into ragequitting the taco but it really sucks with all the great content on this site. too bad everyone here is all against splitting the forums.
WBraun

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 09:54am PT
The forum should be split in two.

One all the climbing stuff and the other all the other stuff.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 09:56am PT
Climbing in one section and ridiculous soap-operas in the other?
Howard Parker

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:18am PT
Locker, check the Concord BART holding cell, last I heard. You can assume that grumpy feds directly patrol this site.
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:20am PT
I dont got time, but it IS clear that Russ Walling did post those pics for the EXACT reason, that is, to STOP the "freedom of speech" here. He absolutely knew they would screw up the computers, and THAT IS why he did it.

NO OTHER REASON.

THAT IS WHAT A NUKE IS!



Don't take a brain specialist to READ his posts on that thread.


Some of youse guys ain't so smart. DON'T give credit for stupidity where its OVERT hostility.






This is TOO stupid. I am GONE. GOOD BYE.
Hankster

Trad climber
Eldorado Springs, CO
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:24am PT
Philo is not pissed about Russ or his verbal jabs. Apparently Russ put up a jpg that was so massive that it melted some weaker computers and this pissed Philo off.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:25am PT
"The forum should be split in two.

One all the climbing stuff and the other all the other stuff."


Werner, I AGREE....


Just one simple change though. Have a climbing section but have all threads ALSO go to the regular section. The climbing stuff would be in a section of its own, but it would also be posted in the full forum. That way we would have the best of both worlds. Everyone would be together in the full forum, climbing, political, religious, LEB, plus those threads labeled climbing would get put in their own section.

Anytime a climbing thread was posted to in the climbing section, that thread would jump to the head of the climbing section, it would ALSO jump to the head of the full section.

This would give us the BEST of both worlds.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:35am PT
Rokjox is leaving too?

Oh, the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:55am PT
I know that. He used to do it all the time, until he grew up.

They made a movie about him. Ben. Button.

bye.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 10:58am PT
Apr 11, 2009, 10:20am PT
Author:
Rokjox

This is TOO stupid. I am GONE. GOOD BYE.


I thought you were gone...
Chris2

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 11:05am PT
Seems I have "heard" this before. Who might hold the record for saying "goodbye" and then returns???
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Apr 11, 2009 - 11:17am PT
Philo's blowhard FBI Paranoia rant over a pic in an off topic climbing post puts his blowhard Hamas Lovefest/Zionist World Conspiracy in perspective.
Case solved.

As for Zip? Gotta be a troll. It is beyond believability that a fully grown adult could be so stupid as to own computers, surf the internet, use a cell phone, manage their finances, and successfully execute a tax return...and not know how to SAVE their work on a computer??? A four year old child knows this. I'm not buying it.

I missed all the drama, but with this sort of productive result, why not drop a few more nukes and see what crawls out of the Supertopo woodwork?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 11:21am PT
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
x15x15

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 11:27am PT
this is what is so great with As The Taco Turns... miss one or two episodes and you still miss NOTHING. oh the drama, action, and love fests are certain to bring you up to speed in no time at all.

yet, this seems so hard to fathom. the participants on this forum have velvety, soft, and yet so silky skin...
x15x15

climber
Apr 11, 2009 - 11:33am PT
rokjock say - to STOP the "freedom of speech" here

you must mean, freedom of doing what cmac wants... he owns, he says, he do... and who am i to say STOP IT! i wants me mamma...
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 02:50pm PT
I got BOOTED...

ONCE...

Someone HERE wrote that it WAS...

"2 or 3 times"...



JUST thought I'd CLEAR that up for the oh so LOST one recently seen DOWN on KNEES in front of LEB...
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Apr 11, 2009 - 03:07pm PT
Claiming that loading a too large of file caused your system to crash is like claiming you touched the yellow line in the road and it caused you to roll.

And locker, I remember when you were gone. Those were the dark days my friend. No sun, no light, no humor, no nothing.

I am so glad you are back. You make my days shiny and bright.

Your like the Johnson's wax of Tacoland.

:-)


Skip
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 03:23pm PT


"Your like the Johnson's wax of Tacoland."...


JUST so long as it's...


































Car"n00b"a...

Jennie

Trad climber
Idaho Falls
Apr 11, 2009 - 03:53pm PT
Hi Philo. Sorry to hear about the possible amputation. Worry and stress over that possibility can make anyone overeact to pranks. Don't become so overloaded with cynicism and despair that you make bad choices.

You've contributed much to this forum---don't quit, you're part of the scene here. If you feel a need to rest from forum contending, please don't be too proud to come back.

You're right, bombing threads affects our unconditional trust. But I'd suggest there IS an absence of malice. Russ hasn't really violated his contract with the universe.

This flap will pass and seem insignificant. The sky isn't really falling in; and God won't give Russ power to make the sun bigger.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Apr 11, 2009 - 04:51pm PT
Philo
Don't do it! Please--especially your Red Rock stories.
Man, you can leave your stuff in Photobucket.
Just go to the library and post.
Don't go.
Please.
Sewellymon

climber
.....in a single wide......
Apr 11, 2009 - 07:46pm PT
Philo,

Please plzzz PLEASE stay

You're good peeps.

p.s. it's LEB I want to go :)
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 11, 2009 - 09:23pm PT
I AGREE!!!...

Hang around dude!!!...



Must be some HEAP somewhere that you can get hold of so that your IMPORTANT machine won't take the brunt...
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 06:36am PT
Lovegasoline,

You know a 4 year old that knows how to save their work on a computer? That's impressive.

Skip,

As usual, just talking out your ass!
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Apr 12, 2009 - 06:39am PT
No Zip,

Claiming that loading a too large of file can destroy a computer is absolutely hilarious.

Learn that.

Or even better, describe the process to us.


Skip
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 12, 2009 - 06:42am PT
hey there philo.. say, and all...

well, i missed most of this, as i got my own troubles right now...
so i a very sorry i have not stepping in to see how
things have been going for you...

seems like from the last post (have not seen the middle)
that somethings wrong...

hope all works out and that you stay here...
everyone has a gift...

gifts in the long run, bring life to others, not just
joy...

god bless, take care... smile at your self,
and be your own best friend... and share your gifts....



*couse, everyone gets free time to rest-up, etc...
just come back and share again...
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 06:46am PT
skip,

It didn't destroy my computer, it just caused it to lock up.
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Apr 12, 2009 - 06:47am PT
zip,

That is all I meant. I used the term crash like the term means in a car wreck. (Sorry for the confusion.)


Skip
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 12, 2009 - 07:28am PT
Posting super big files with the intent of slowing up or messing with with our computers is totaly fckn lame and should be worth a swift kick in the nuts.. YMMV
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 09:54am PT
CAN'T help myself on THIS one...

I PICTURE Russ over there...

Beer and "Walkie Talkie" in hand...

Prehaps "SALLY" somewhere near by...

















































"one Adam Bluto"...




Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 10:16am PT
What's even funnier is how Zip deleted all 19 of his posts in the other thread.

Pretty lame.

Good thing I saved the thread before he did...





































-it's a rather good example of saving "work"...
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:00am PT
How could posting a big jpeg cause someone's computer to crash? It makes no sense!

Too funny.

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:03am PT
"Hey - you know what's really annoying?"...



"Seeded" question...



EDIT:

For PTPP...

"A"...

and that's being generous...


'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:05am PT
What? I don't even get any CAPITAL letters?

And you SPELLED EVERYTHING RIGHT?

Has someone HACKED locker's account?

Maybe it's l0cker?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:37am PT
Those big files are really annoying for us dail up posters.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:41am PT
There's a lot of stuff on this site that's annoying...


































-like posting links with no personal input...
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:53am PT

Hardman Knott you suprize me!!!!

Deleting posts is part of the " freedom of speech" .

Anyone can post as they wish and remove it at their will.

Censorship by you ? I think knott, At best childish criticism .

I do like the funny part about how at least you saved it.

But who really gives a crap ?

On Thread Topic Edit: Philo what do you think ?






skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Apr 12, 2009 - 11:59am PT
I'm pretty sure Philo would respond that Russ was working for the Mossad.


Skip
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:03pm PT
Watch it Fish Finder, or I'll repost the entire thread (pre-delete) right here...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:13pm PT
Fish Finder - if you click on WARNING! Stay off the "phone sabotage suspect" thread. . . .,
you will find that this historic and scintillating thread has been forever befouled because
Zip deleted 19 (count 'em) of his posts! Can you imagine the effort that went into that?

Conversely, here's what my saving the entire thread entailed, and it took approx. 3.75 seconds:

1. With thread open, click "Show All" link to load entire thread.

2. Command + S (Mac) or ctrl + S (Windows)

You've GOT to be kidding...
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:18pm PT
So what did I miss?

How big was Russ' jpeg image?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:19pm PT
The standard 4500+ pixel wide image @ approx 5 MB.

Pretty tame compared to the frequent photo-bombing we saw in days of yore...
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:28pm PT


Yeah i saw it but whats funny is when people delete several of their posts and add some comment on each line instead of just deleting it.

A fine example of this is dmalloy on the " Lessons Thread"
wow that must take some time.

zip is able to adapt and can learn like all of us from spending time here. he only wanted an explanation and he got it. philo on the other hand said that this didnt affect him but it was all about his last three exspensive computer crashes. WTF? There has to be a lesson somewhere.

If we were all as computer savy or is it snobby as you, none of us would need to post or read here. We'd all be investigating each others stats and loose the point.

Truth said i only kid as i wish i could navigate around this site as much as your able to.

Best Gregg



x15x15

climber
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:32pm PT
still confused by this freedom of speech line. but, to each his own. that is why i liked usenet before it quietly faded away. you either stood by your post, or admitted your folly in a later post...

this deleting sh#t is for pussies, wussies, and f*#ked up retards with sh#t for brains... oh no, wait... i am f*#king pissed now because my "freedom of speech" is violated. i can't f*#king write sh#t on stupid taco.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:34pm PT
What?! You're telling me the [pussy-wanker] who wrote this thread, is quitting because Russ posted a simple jpeg, not even that big or nasty or imbedded with a virus or something, and it made his comp crash?

What the hell kinda computer is this guy running? You could email an image of that size for f*#k's sake.

That's not the real reason he's quitting, dude. There's something else we don't know.

He does a lot of techno talk in his copied rant above, but he sure doesn't understand computers if a frickin' photo crashed his machine. What kinda piece of junk is he running, anyway? I thought your Macs were these wonderful crashproof virusproof computers that always worked perfectly.

P.S. WTF is wrong with this thread? I can't even read my own post without scrolling a half-mile to the right. Sheesh.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 12:40pm PT
"P.S. WTF is wrong with this thread? I can't even read my own post without scrolling a half-mile to the right. Sheesh."...


Not sure WHO...

But I'm PROUD of SOMEONE...

;-)
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:01pm PT
I am never ceased to be amazed by the amount of people on this site who talk sh#t to, and about people they have never met.

I have had a couple people who have attacked me, that i have never even had a conversation with. I have responded with what i feel is an appropriate response.

I don't come here and intentionally wrong, insult, or lay a hand upon anyone. If it is done to me, i will respond with the level of force that i feel is necessary to defend myself.

I work in a couple of different fields where verbal and physical confrontation are a part of the job. I don't like the negativity associated with this interaction, but i am very good at it, and it pays well.

I come to this site as a positive release to the negative energy that i encounter in other areas of my life.

I deleted my posts, because i really don't like my name associated with that negativity, not because i am a pussy.

When the topic was first posted, i was trying to figure out what happened to my computer and my I phone. I e mailed Russ off site and asked him if he had possibly planted something on that thread that caused my equipment to lock up. I never got a reply.

When the thread started to get more responses, it then became apparent that Russ had done something to the thread that caused my equipment to freeze.

I was pissed, and responded.

I was trying to do my own taxes, and i lost all the information that i was working on. Instead of trying to re input it all, i took the next day off, and paid someone else a couple of hundred bucks to do my taxes.

I then get people on this site that say i am stupid for not backing my stuff up and that my computer is a POS.

I have very limited education, but don't believe that i am stupid. I don't have much knowledge of computers and how they work. Those of you you that do know me, know that i have done very well for myself, without being real smart.

I know my computer is not a POS. It is fairly new, and i think it is a pretty good unit. I still have no idea why it locked up. Maybe there is something wrong with it.

Am I upset with Russ? No, not anymore. From what i can understand, he just loaded a real big file, that my computer was not able to handle. He wasn't trying to cause me or my computer any harm.

I really don't want to continue to dwell or post on this thread anymore, but may have to, to defend myself.

It's Easter.

Go spend some time with someone you care about.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:05pm PT
...

































"one Adam Bluto"...
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
So who put Tami in the car in the first place? And what were you doing in there with her? Hmmmm?
Tami

Social climber
Vancouver, Canada
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:35pm PT
.........uhhhh........that "being in the car" stuff is a joke going on this site and mostly perped by Cosmiccragsman and I.

It's meant in ALL JEST....

The above excerpt, something I have not previously seen.........is really really disturbing and totally icky.

This is an open note to whoever posted it: go f*#k yourself and leave me out of your mental illness(es).



EDIT: Anders' note above refers to a now deleted post. Please ignore it and this message. Thx.
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:39pm PT
Tami,

I honestly meant know harm.

I will delete it.

Consider this my humblest apology.

It was not meant to be aimed at you but rather an extension of the ongoing joke you yourself have laughed with me about.

Once again, I meant know harm by it.


Skip

EDIT: Tami, I will add this. What I wrote is completely in bounds with the humor you yourself have posted here on these pages. I don't understand why you reacted the way you did. But I did comply with your wishes.

Best of luck with you.
Tami

Social climber
Vancouver, Canada
Apr 12, 2009 - 03:52pm PT
Thanks skipt.
Apology accepted.

I do like the jesting that can go on all over this forum- what you don't know is that cosmiccm & I have exchanged emails & the ongoing joke is now connected for me to someone with a name, a face and a voice. Cosmic's art, while it has "implied" violence , is cartoonish........and therefore, in my opinion, funny.

You are entirely an unknown quantity to me. Your description of me in the car lacked this cartoonish quality; indeed it seemed to be singularily possible. In the absence of having any knowledge of you, I found the typewritten image created in the post to be singularily disturbing.

Thank you for apologizing.

Case closed.
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