Cerro Torre- the lie and the desecration

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le_bruce

climber
Oakland, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 09:48am PT
http://pataclimb.com/knowledge/puzzle.html



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ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Feb 3, 2015 - 10:32am PT
Oh and Big Bird, by the way we're not talking about the the Compressor route and it's bolt chopping saga. We're not arguing about that. 1959 dude.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 10:53am PT
Not to mention the 'diary' * page facing the picture of Egger is written like a third grader would.

*It is shown on the Pataclimb exposť page.
Andy de klerk

Mountain climber
South Africa
Feb 3, 2015 - 11:56am PT
I've always wondered what they did during those 6 days?
Found a "Tomo Boulder" to huddle under? Hardly likely
Is it possible that Egger was avalanched from the Col Standhart and not from their route on the Torre?
Do the fall lines look right based on where Jim found Eggers leg?
Fantastic jigsaw puzzling Rolo and Kelly and a fantastic thread for all wanting the truth
The big question then in my mind then is where exactly Maestri was found by Fava. Was it at the base of their route or further right?
Andy
Andy de klerk

Mountain climber
South Africa
Feb 3, 2015 - 12:17pm PT
Also, just for the record, I really enjoyed Kelly's book "the Tower", read it twice back to back. Well done Kelly for pulling all the threads together on this half century old controversy.

Talking about threads though, what intrigued me was all the wierd knots and coils on Eggers rope. And the fact of the broken ends of the rope on the 1959 route. Maybe they went to take a look at getting to the col of conquest via the wast side of Stanhart and then bailed and went back up their route?

Interesting how the truth always comes out, piece by piece

Andy
brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 01:14pm PT
Awesome read.
Thanks for the post.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 3, 2015 - 01:52pm PT

It's an interesting read.

Interesting how the truth always comes out, piece by piece

I'd rather say: The case is deconstructed piece by piece, supported by observations and then a "truth" of a higher probability is constructed.

Not that it makes the complementary aggression of the chopping Canadamericans any better...
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Feb 3, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
Everything that Andy just said. It's starting to make a little more sense now. Looks plausible that he could have fallen coming back from Col of Standhart. Anyway the 6 days now has a better storyline to it.

Arne

Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Feb 3, 2015 - 02:18pm PT
Fantastic sleuthing!
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 02:36pm PT
Props to Colin Haley for the money shot, as well!
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
Just read this thread for the first time...

Coming across this new revelation at the end of it all was quite the surprise ending. Wild stuff
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
Huge thanks to Rolo and Kelly on this new discovery. It has been a fifty-six year old cat-and-mouse game we have had to play with Maestri, and it has disfigured all of mountaineering on a number of levels.

Rebuffat used to say, "Climbing is, above all, a matter of integrity."
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Feb 4, 2015 - 04:30pm PT
bump- check the discovery!!
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