Hugh Burton's Classic El Capitan Up-date Mountain 44 1975

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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 14, 2009 - 06:13pm PT
This superb follow-up To Royal's El Cap Commentary made me want to go and do these routes. These guys were the nazz from where I was peeking over the fence. Porter, Burton, Sutton and Jimmy Dunn were and still are my Silver Age Heroes. Here is their scene. From Mountain #44 July/August 1975.








I love that last paragraph and have used it in some of my writing, 1975 no less!!!

Studly

Trad climber
WA
Mar 14, 2009 - 06:28pm PT
The Shield. Its a longtime dream of mine. To be on that thin crack in that immense sweep of golden perfect granite, suspended between heaven and earth. Is it as breath taking as it looks?
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Mar 14, 2009 - 06:51pm PT
Great stuff, thanks Steve! I had never read that before. It was a bit painful to read - if you can make the photos 700 or even 800 pixels wide, they will be a lot easier to read on McTopo. Kinda hard with the small print, eh?

And they misspelled "supersede"...

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 19, 2009 - 11:44pm PT
I always liked those two photos of Pratt on the Shield, taken by Steve. Did any of the other "golden agers" do an early ascent of any of the "new wave" routes on El Capitan in the 1970s?

Bump. Plus it has not one but two photos of Charlie Porter, although neither seems likely to be what's needed.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 19, 2009 - 11:50pm PT
Steve, met you and Mimi at the Nose Reunion. Some of the controversy recently about not enough appreciation of the true climbing threads leads me to this comment. I am remiss at telling you how much I enjoy all the great climbing threads you post here on the Taco.

I am new here and have much to learn and most of the time feel inadequate and/or embarassed to comment on your posts as most that do are real climbers. Mi be jess learning.

But I read just about all you post and love the history, pictures et al. I love Mimi's comments whenever she posts....super great person....please tell me I haven't muffed her name.....tired. Peace and Joy, Lynne
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 20, 2009 - 12:55am PT
This great thread does need a bonafide bump. Let's have an inspiring comment...or two. Took some work to post it .... now we appreciate it. Peace, lynne
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2009 - 10:48am PT
I can't believe it's a bump.....Thanks Lynne!
east side underground

Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
Mar 20, 2009 - 11:07am PT
Thanks steve, never met burton during his climbing days, but see him here, when he has building projects going in town, a very mellow guy.
Wonder

climber
WA
Mar 21, 2009 - 11:21pm PT
Drunk & trollin'.
Great post Steve. Hey, you got any pics of the ol' Lincoln with the suicide doors they use to drive around in. A family of 12 in India could live in that mother.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2009 - 11:44pm PT
My best friend back in grade school had one and I have been very close myself. Had I ever moved Magnus Construction down to Olympia, an electric blue one with lumber racks and some longhorns on the front seemed inevitable! LOL Company car with wet bar, of course!

No problem hiding a posse in that rig. I dearly hope some pictures are still around.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 22, 2009 - 04:52am PT
Come to think of it, as I try to read that print, this article was "beta" for when I climbed the Trip. I remember the part where Robbins actually got down off right.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2009 - 11:49am PT
For the love of air and that headwall shot, the Trip was my first outing back in 77 or so. It was not der Golden Stone and I developed an immediate distaste for the diorite. Plenty to do away from that shizzle!!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2009 - 08:32pm PT
Air bump!
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 29, 2009 - 07:27pm PT
Bump for climbing!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2009 - 11:02am PT
And another.......bump!
Double D

climber
May 6, 2009 - 11:10am PT
Thanks for posting this Steve. That article induced more damage to my Robbins wall boots than any other BITD! While some thought the "Golden Age" of big wall climbing was a by-gone era, others experienced a renaissance of new possibilities. That article hung at the balance of these two eras for sure.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2009 - 01:31pm PT
I really like the flavor of the last paragraph. Trying like hell to soften the oncoming blow!
Climbing dropout

Trad climber
Vancouver, BC
May 7, 2009 - 01:42pm PT
The only time I met Burton, he was with Hatten and Sutton. 1978, they had just got off a freight train in Squamish and picked up their truck. I was asleep on Pysche ledge under the Chief.

Hatten pulled a chainsaw out of the back of their truck, fired it up and chased me around my car with it, laughing maniacally, in the way only he can. Then he carved gouges in the pavement with it, throwing off a tremendous spark show. Hugh calmed him down and sent me into Squamish with his money, to buy 2 cases of beer.

We had a fire under the power lines, started with kindling Hugh chopped in 2 mighty blows off of a telephone pole. His arm caught fire while pouring gasoline on the flames. It didn't really faze him much.

Hugh was very laid back. I found out later who they were, and much later on became friends with Daryl.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
May 7, 2009 - 03:57pm PT
Bump it again for our historian extraordiare!!!!!





Yay Steve Grossman!!!!!
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
May 7, 2009 - 04:42pm PT
I remember that article only because the libary at UC Irvine had some bound copies of Mountainin their stacks. I was still in high school and would sometimes stop by there after bouldering at the Beach and dream about doing the Captain.

I still feel really privileged to have done a couple of routes mentioned in that article--Zodiac (in '83) and the Shield ('91). I always liked that quote about how Charlie Porter had gotten inside the rurp and was looking out.
Russ Walling

Gym climber
Vulva, Wyoming
May 7, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
Burton, Sutton, Porter......

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!1111166666

B A D A S S S S S™™™™™™
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2009 - 12:43am PT
Big Wall bump!
Largo

Sport climber
Venice, Ca
Jun 27, 2009 - 01:00am PT
I had the pleasure of doing a couple new big walls with Burton (including the Giraffe, in Baja) the exact year this article was published (1975), and let me tell you, he was a remarkable force on difficult aid. No complaining, he just got out there and did it.

JL
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jun 27, 2009 - 01:13am PT
i remember when this ish of mountain came out. still have it. boggled and boggles my mind. here we are 34 years later. is it too late for me to get dragged up the shield?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jun 27, 2009 - 02:19am PT
Does anyone have contact information for Steve and Hugh? I believe Hugh is somewhere in the Los Angeles area, working in construction, and the last I heard was that Steve is in Colorado. I'd like to interview them for the "Squamish climbing history" book. Send me a PM if you can help.
Chief

climber
Jun 27, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
Thanks for the post Steve, what a blast from the past!
That was a seminal issue, still fresh and glossy when I started climbing in the spring of 76, it was like the gospel of climbing to us fresh faced neophytes. Those guys were and still are my heroes. Hitchin to the Valley with a mountain of haul bags and doing the FA of the Mushroom at the tender age of sixteen! Climbing the Cassin wearing blue jeans over Capilene! The Warrior on North Howser! Their recreational habits off the rock are another story altogether. Do not try to out drink Hugh or Steve, in fact I wouldn't recommend drinking with either of them at all! I had the privilege of doing the PO with Steve, it was like being on a tour of Galilee with one of the Disciples. We followed right up with the FA of the Grand Wazoo on Middle. Steve solved and lead some of the hardest sections on this difficult face route proving again his mastery on the rock, aid or free. I think I still have that issue with most of the Mountain series. Feelin so nostalgic, I might have to put my beer down and go dig them out!

Perry
Maysho

climber
Truckee, CA
Jun 27, 2009 - 01:36pm PT
Hey Chief/Perry, are you Perry Beckham from Squamish? If so great to see you here! Been awhile, hope all is great with you!

If not, any of you northerners have contact info for him?

Peter Mayfield
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2009 - 04:56pm PT
Anders-Hugh lives on the Eastside. Check your e-mail for his contact info. He likely has Steve's too.

Perry is the Squamish Chief since Eric Weinstein passed away.
Chief

climber
Jun 28, 2009 - 01:26pm PT
Hello Peter,

Yes it's Perry from Squamish and it's good to hear from you. It's been a few years since we last crossed paths in El Portal I think. Probably last saw Hugh around that time as well.
The last reports I had on Steve were that he was still married, living in Telluride, base jumping and working on his commercial pilots license. Last rumour was that he was considering a gig flying in Africa. That was three or four years ago and with Steve, anything's possible. It would be good to find out where he is.
I watched the Wrestler last night and was reminded of Steve starting his day with 1200 mgs of Ibuprofen washed down with two Old English tall boys followed up with a five mile run. Then he was ready for coffee and cragging. Talk about hardcore.

Regards,

Perry
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 09:49pm PT
Beckham Bump!
Ray Olson

Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
Nov 29, 2009 - 10:25pm PT
I'm amazed I missed this - thanks Steve.
Climbing dropout

climber
BC
Nov 30, 2009 - 01:45am PT
Burton & Sutton wrote major chapters in the histories of Squamish and Yosemite.

Hopefully one day they show up on the supertaco to talk about it.

Can somebody give them a nudge ?
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Nov 30, 2009 - 09:25am PT
Got word a week or so back that Sutton and Burton have been located for their signatures in the copy of Yosemite Climber that'll be up for auction to benefit Jim Bridwell. The weight of it all will make the winner quite a buff dude or ripped lass.

Thanks for posting this Steve!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2010 - 12:43am PT
Big Wall Bump!
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Sep 6, 2010 - 02:03am PT
Yeah! Really great thread Steve!! Cheers, MP.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
One of my all time favorite articles!
ryankelly

Trad climber
camp tawonga
Sep 7, 2010 - 01:22am PT
Good read.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2010 - 12:36pm PT
Bump from the Drizzle!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 12, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
That issue changed my life.
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Dec 12, 2010 - 05:40pm PT
Bump for the bad old days.
mastadon

Trad climber
quaking has-been
Dec 12, 2010 - 06:40pm PT
Hugh Burton at a get-together at Mike White's last fall.....

Hugh Burton=BADASS!


White's party, fall 2010: not everyone that was there made it into the picture

Augie Klein, Dave Hitchcock, Mike White, Chuck Cochran, Tom Carter, Rich (?), Mastadon
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Dec 13, 2010 - 12:52am PT
mastadon,

Thanks for the photo, hi to Hugh and Augie when you see them next.

Perry
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2010 - 04:08pm PT
Here is another great thread on The Shield...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=839753&msg=1305511#msg1305511
hubcap

Big Wall climber
loveland co
Dec 16, 2010 - 09:34pm PT
Don't forget that badass cowboy, Chris Nelson - who is working on some first ascent photos of The End All Wall.
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Dec 17, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
Glad to see that Mike White's grin is still wide; that guy could make me laugh!
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
Dec 18, 2010 - 10:26am PT
Gettin' bumpy out there.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
The same Mike White that took the classic Nose In A Day photo?
hubcap

Big Wall climber
loveland co
Feb 2, 2011 - 09:13am PT
Hugh on FA Mescalito, above the Seagull.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
Nice shot hubcap! Damn does he look young...
hubcap

Big Wall climber
loveland co
Jul 23, 2011 - 07:49pm PT
Yea, we were all young.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
Got pitchers to prove it!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2012 - 10:14pm PT
Bump...
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Feb 17, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
Proud Lines for sure..
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
Bump..
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Classic bump...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
Tis the season...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
Bump for Charlie's legacy...in part.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
Big wall bumpage...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2017 - 06:55pm PT
Classic article bump...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2018 - 09:00am PT
Fall wall bump...
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