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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 8, 2009 - 12:16am PT
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Metolius Shawn :
On Tues Feb 3rd 2009 Shawn Snyder 38 of Mammoth was arrested for violation of parole , grand theft,
possession of stolen property, possession of weed over an ounce, possession of weed for sale and possession of paraphenalia.
So many chances and so many failures.
Shawn is sitting in Mono County jail awaiting arraignment .
This article is from March of 2008
http://www.ksrw.sierrawave.net/site/content/view/731/48/
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2009 - 12:52am PT
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Cosmic, are you sure its his ?
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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yeah, he posted a thread about it, where is it.
i told him to keep an eye on his titanium digital camera.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2009 - 01:21am PT
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"But, I don't know if the gear he used was his."
now thats what im talkin bout.
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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i know Shawn from Bend in the mid '90's.
Something happened to that man there that changed his spirit.
It is sad.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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truly sad, I wouldn't have wished the problems he faced last March, on anyone, now he's done it again only worse...
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Rankin
climber
Bishop, CA
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Man, that guy has got some problems. He stole a bunch of stuff out of the back of Tom Wood's truck in Bishop last year. Obviously he's a kleptomaniac, but its had to feel sorry for the guy. Man, what an idiot.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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My guess is he'll draw another six months for parole violation and be out by the end of summer.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Maybe he will need to rent from you? Keep that ratthrasher honed...
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couchmaster
climber
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My guess is he'll draw another six months for parole violation and be out by the end of summer.
That's too bad, if the story is true and he's a multiple serial thief, people like that should just be locked up and kept away from honest people.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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As long as he avoids the violent felonies there's not really much the law's going to do to him.
He's probably been sent back to State Prison by now, Monday at the latest. D.A.s don't want to waste their time on something that may get the guy six months in county jail - if that - when they can send him to The Joint for an automatic six month stretch with no hearing, no appeal, no review - just on the call of his parole officer.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2009 - 10:47pm PT
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My gut tells me the system has had it with him and he will do at least a year plus.
My mind tells me they should start cutting off his digits.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Shawn stayed at my house on and off for a few years;......and he was always totally cool with me;....I've heard the stories about his rip offs, and I've talked to him many times about lots of stuff;.....he had a very rough and trying childhood, and he's tried to keep it straight;.....but oftentimes with big setbacks and run-ins with the law;..change does not come easily for some, and Shawn really struggles with many of his "less than stellar " decisions........I hope he gets it right one of these days;....he's a really good dude, with a great spirit, a smile and a good word, and a world class slackliner and one of the most gifted and talented climbers I have ever climbed with......I thought he was locked up already for a bunch of years from last years slip-up,...but I guess he's done it again......I personally like Shawn alot, but I know that people he's ripped off don't feel the same, and I understand that......I wish him the best, and greatly look forward, as always, to seeing him again..........
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2009 - 11:18pm PT
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During the search officers recovered reported stolen property from 2006 & 2009.
Shawn denied any involvement in the thefts.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Gee, I can't believe it!!!!!
No, wait! Yes I can. I was wondering how he got out so fast from the last one.
He does look happy in his mug shot, though!
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wildone
climber
GHOST TOWN
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Todd- I've had the same experiences as you regarding Shawn. He stayed at my house in El Portal a few times for a few days each. I know about his childhood. He's had some rough times, and I think considering his start in life, he's doing pretty well.
I understand why people who have been ripped off would dislike him. He's been nothing but rad to me.
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FeelioBabar
climber
Sneaking up behind you...
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Thievery is cowardice. Plain and simple.
Especially stealing from other climbers. Lame.
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enjoimx
Big Wall climber
SLO Cal
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Who F**king cares.
Ive only seen this guy once try to rig a highline, and he was a dick about it the whole time. He didnt even try to walk it.
Hes not a legendary highliner, and his first -crosses are questionable.
I dont see why his sh#t is so newsworthy.
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Clayman
Trad climber
CA, now Flagstaff
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I spent a good amount of time with Shaun one summer. I've done some rad things with him. His childhood demons have plagued his life far beyond his ability to effectively cope with them in society. He seriously lives in an alternate reality where his rationale would not make sense to anyone but him. He has made poor choices, but he has a good heart. It seems that it is impossible for him to escape from his upbringing. Some of the first highlines I walked were rigged by Shaun and I can vouch for his talent as an athlete.
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ChrisW
Trad climber
boulder, co
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Yea, I hung out with Shawn a little bit. STOPPED right away. He was all Trouble. I agree, he still has a good heart.
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wildone
climber
GHOST TOWN
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Hey Locker, we get it. You Don't like him. Thanks.
"He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."
Sound familiar?
I hate religion, especially christianity, but I think the above is solid advice.
When Shawn was about 12, he was being made to buy speed for his mom, and doing it with her, realized the path he was on, found out about emancipation, got the forms together, got her WHACKED out on speed, and had her sign his "permission slip" for a "school field trip". Been on his own, raising himself ever since.
Did that happen to you? Seems like that old idiom about walking a mile in someone else's shoes may be appropriate. I think back to when I was 12, and if I was sleeping in allleys, stealing to eat...yeah, may affect my development as a human.
All things considered.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Who gives a sh#t. I get so sick and tired of the pathetic excuse that someone had a lousy childhood. He's an adult now. Time to grow up. I've had numerous discussions with him over the years. He could care less about doing ANYTHING to improve himself.
He belongs in jail.
Flush him.
I'll just bet you'll be waiting for him with open arms to let him stay at your place unsupervised while cleans you out.
Wow, what a "good heart".
Oh brother.
Hi, I'm a dumb f*#k, I know you had a bad childhood, but I'll forgive you for ripping me off.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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and a good joke it was!
I wish an eventual bottom for the guy(who I have never met and only know about through some who have met him), that he can finally begin to build a life from the ruin.
From what people have said, it sounds like he has quite a high level pain tolerance. Many people never hit that bottom, and die without ever having lived the new life(which I know some people here have gotten the chance to do).
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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That was a good joke, too, if unintentional.
Which of the ones here have died?
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Chapstick
Trad climber
Cali
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Too bad for Shawn. He might have stolen from many people but he did nothing but give to me. He does have a good heart. I suppose there is a good and bad side to everyone.
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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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How does one compare a petty thief to a serial killing cannibal?
Locker, STFU. You add nothing to the discussion but noise.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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People can change... They just need a combination of hitting bottom, getting counseling and having a reason to change. It takes a whole lot, but it can happen.
I feel sad because Shawn is creating his own hell, I hope he can one day pull himself out of it.
As for Shawn getting out soon... California's Proposition 184 won't allow that. In certain cases, a person with two prior felony convictions has been charged with a third felony for committing a minor shoplifting crime.
If one of the two previous felony charges had involved stealing in any manner then the shoplifting conviction, thus upgraded to a felony, would result in a mandatory sentence of 25 years to life in prison under the three-strikes law.
AF
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Well, I think Locker is right about the enabling thing. I've twin bros. One lives in a kick-ass house in Frisco, CO and skis every day. His twin lives in a junk yard in Wilmington, CA, literally. The latter has had so many opportunities to get it right handed to him on a silver platter it makes you just shake your head. I don't even take his calls any more except when my wife shoves the phone at me; I know he's just scamming.
Locker is right- they are like junkies- you can't help 'em if they don't want to help themselves. Don't enable!
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Re-read the law, Anastasia.
They gotta be VIOLENT felonies to count as *strikes*.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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It takes more than just a felony conviction. The conviction must qualify as "serious" or "violent" under the Penal Code. The usual term for violating parole is called a "bullet", as in "eat a bullet", and is one year. If he had committed only petty theft, they would probably dismiss the new criminal charges, and violate his parole. However, he is facing grand theft, a felony. He would also qualify for a prior prison enhancement, of an additional 1 year.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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I took Shawn under my wing his first season in the Valley, turned him on to HiLining (thoses dbl pulleys on his rig are mine) Beyond not returning my pulley's he's never been anything but a friend to me. I feel he has a good heart, many others do not feel this way because of their personal experince's with him.
It's not my place to make judgement's of others, this is something I try to work on everyday. The man is in jail and there is no need at this time to talk about him on a public forum. Can't this thread be deleted and we post about. . . .climbing? DF
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Bullwinkle,
I agree with you... This thread should be deleted. What is going down is extremely unfortunate for all of us.
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Please have some empathy people... This world isn't black and white and... It isn't easy for any of us. Add a few soul wounds and many of us might be walking the same path.
Plus, this has catastrophic implications...
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It is true that "Life Imprisonment" under the California Three Strikes Law is only used for "violent crimes." Yet... Crimes that are "not violent" will still be given "25 years imprisonment" under the Three Strive Law.
While a felony conviction can be a disaster anywhere, the California Three Strikes Law is especially severe—making California the worst state in which to face a felony conviction.
California Penal Code section 667, the “Three Strikes and You’re Out” felony law,
requires that repeat offenders face increasingly elevated punishment.
If a defendant has one strike and is convicted of a second, a limit on good behavior sentence reductions is imposed.
A previously convicted felon facing “second strike” sentencing automatically faces a doubled prison sentence—before sentencing is even read.
If a defendant has two strikes and is convicted of a third, “Three Strikes” comes into full effect, and the accused is automatically sentenced for 25 years to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Under California Penal Code section 666, (Petty Theft with a Prior), a person previously convicted of a theft-related crime faces California felony penalties if he/she commits another theft-related crime. This means that a “two strikes” defendant charged with a minor shoplifting misdemeanor will be upgraded to a felony charge—and 25 years to life in prison.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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The first two *strikes* need to be VIOLENT FELONIES.
There's a list of the specific *strikes* somewhere.
Just being a rip-off won't earn Shawn any strikes.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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(Source: http://www.lao.ca.gov/analysis_1995/3strikes.html);
California's Three Strikes Law
The Three Strikes law significantly increases the prison sentences of persons convicted of felonies who have been previously convicted of a violent or "serious felony," and limits the ability of these offenders to receive a punishment other than a prison sentence.
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Most Offenders Charged With Nonviolent, Nonserious Offenses.
Data we reviewed show that during the first eight months of implementation about 70 percent of all second- and third-strikes are for nonviolent and nonserious offenses.The types of offenses cover a very wide range. The largest single category of third-strike charges is burglary (defined as a serious offense), although it accounted for only 12 percent of the total.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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It's not going to apply to Shawn, Anastasia.
Trust me. I know.
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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The DA here in Mono County is a climber and a staunch Republican.
I have a feeling Shawn will get what he deserves.
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Like Neal said, he's got problems.
He probably is a kleptomaniac in the true sense of the disorder.
No way does someone chose to behave that way, that much for so long.
I feel bad for those who have suffered loss to his hands but I find myself thinking what an utter waste it is for him, his family and the community at large.
Guy needs help but if it were me that he poached from forgiveness would be difficult.
~Sooze
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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The simple recipe:
murderers: chop off head
sex offenders: chop off shank
thieves: chop off hands
choss pile FA'ists: chop off bolts
hippies: chop off hair
weed smokers: chop off tiedye
I would forgive him if he had his hands chopped off.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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People earn their sentences and I do believe in rehabilitation. Maybe this is the bottom he needs to hit in order for him to change his life around. I just hope that whatever happens that our society is protected and he gets the help he needs.
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WBraun
climber
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Russ is true "old school".
You're supposed to be dead though .........
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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I am dead Werner.... only you can see me.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2009 - 04:03pm PT
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Hey Mussy
What would be your recommendation if the sex offender was a female ?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Spackle
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2009 - 04:06pm PT
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Ha Ha Ha
Mussy you been doin to much remodlin lately .
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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"The simple recipe:
murderers: chop off head
sex offenders: chop off shank
thieves: chop off hands
choss pile FA'ists: chop off bolts
hippies: chop off hair
weed smokers: chop off tiedye
I would forgive him if he had his hands chopped off."
"Hails of derisive laughter, Bruce!"
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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What does this Shawn guy have to do with Metolius?
Cool lookin slackline btw.
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j-stone
Social climber
Oregon
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Just to clarify.
Shawn Syder was at one time an employee of Metolius but was let go. Metolius is in no way affiliated with him at this time.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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This guy sounds like a piece of sh#t.
F*#k him.
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Gene
climber
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I don't know him. Apparently he screws up on a regular basis. He's in jail and subject to the justice system, whatever that is. My opinion is that nothing is served by flaming him or proclaiming he has a heart of gold.
This thread should be done. If you want to continue, gossip in person, not here.
gm
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Gossip on the taco... never....
Hope Shaun finds what he is looking for, whatever that may be
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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You know Locker, I think you're right: Jeffery Dahmer did have a good heart...
but then he ate it.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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"Hope Shaun finds what he is looking for, whatever that may be"
Right about now he's probably looking for a Top Ramen.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Wow! So the charges grow to include pot sales now. And the story is a lot different than the last one... I think he's f*#ked, honestly. It's not going to be a 6 mo. parole violation and release.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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"Soul Wounds"....very descriptive phrase Ana.... truly ! Read this whole Thread and shakin' my head. The Dude whom I don't know and have never met has a very big problem. It's pretty much destroying his potentially talented life.
We on the Taco all have stuff in us to help each other. This includes wisdom, caring, love, forgiveness, and strength to help set a course for one way off course. Many of Yo all circled the wagons and helped Lynnie when Dan died. Could we do the same for this bro ? I don't know. He won't help ...can't help....if I read the comments correctly.
Obviously it's not cool and it's wrong for him to steal from the hood, or anyone. But if we his folk could kick his butt with tough love....could we help ? Again, don't know...but hate to see a soul/life lost.
I do know without a doubt Shawn, that in Jesus yo are a New Creature, old things are passed away and all things become new. If you do want to change Jesus will and can do it for and with Yo. All you gotta do is want it. He will do the remodeling in your life. He did it for this Gal majorly.
This Thread made me think about many things. Made me examine my priorites and I spent much of this afternoon in soulsearching. One of The questions I asked myself is ..... and it is a Serious one...what is more important... my stuff/possessions or a human life/soul ?
Just sorting it out, hope yo don't jump on me....just thinking out loud and like many of you, caring for a pilgrim that has lost their way. LRL
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Rankin
climber
Bishop, CA
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Oh no. Another god squatter.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Feb 10, 2009 - 07:12am PT
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As far as people being able to change, this may true, but you have to want to change.
I spoke with shawn at length a few years back just after he finished a year long sentence. I commented that he was now a part of the system, and there we counseling services etc. available to him.
He couldn't have cared less.
He gets what he deserves.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:52am PT
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Rankin that would be God squatter. Lynnie is a good person, don't know that I would tag her with a particular label, except GOOD people. Here she is trying to help someone and yer gonna shoot her down, what a guy(gal).
Peace
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:49am PT
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"As far as people being able to change, this may true, but you have to want to change."
I don't think people really change. And if they do, it's rare. I think of people more like colors; they never really change, although they can change their hue. Still the same color though.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:59am PT
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Maybe the Baby Jebus can help Lynne overcome her ebonics spelling affliction, yo.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 01:56pm PT
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Hey Jeff, how ya doing? Haven't seen ya since the Reunion. Let me know when yer gonna be in Josh or similar...I'll come out to see yo! Hope all is well with yo. Thanks for the backing.
Peace
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Feb 10, 2009 - 04:49pm PT
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Rankin may also need a little prayer from us all.
After construction work kicked his a#@ for a year.
Word on the street in Bishop is he is thinking of going back to school not only for his bad grammer but to become a ..........
LAWYER! God help him
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Feb 10, 2009 - 05:16pm PT
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Mothra the Muppet an attorney!!!!?
Jebus!
That ripoff dude will just do what all the jailbirds do... find "GAWD", fool the toadies on the parole board and then hit the streets again, handing out a big can o' same-o-same-o.
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drljefe
climber
Toostoned, AZ
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Feb 10, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
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At least he looks good in orange.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Feb 10, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
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This is a sad story.
Juan
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Feb 10, 2009 - 06:47pm PT
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You never heard of "Jailhouse Lawyer"?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Feb 10, 2009 - 06:55pm PT
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ummmm..... wrong guy, guy.....
Rankin is the would be lawyer. As far as I know, not a felon.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Feb 10, 2009 - 06:56pm PT
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This is starting to feel less like a campfire, and more like a public hanging.
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andanother
climber
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Feb 10, 2009 - 08:25pm PT
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I read about his so-called "troubled" and "rough" childhood. Pretty funny.
Have any of you ever had to face any sort of REAL problems?
Sounds like you haven't. But many people HAVE been through tough times. Many people have been dealt some pretty shitty hands. And you know what? It makes them stronger. It makes them better people. And for those who don't rise above their troubles, it leaves them feeling bitter at worst.
Shawn's behavior doesn't sound like it's even linked to his past. But that doesn't matter. The kind of stuff that guy faced in his early years doesn't even qualify as traumatic. Grow the f*#k up. That goes for Shawn and the rest of you.
Reading through some of his adult history, it sounds like the guy has been given countless opportunities to do good. And he took those opportunities to screw over the people he knew.
So, even if his life WAS tough, there's no excuse for his actions. He's a peice of sh#t. A peice of sh#t that just happened to end up working at a climbing company at some point in the past. So now, instead of getting raped in jail, he's taking advantage of some of the nicest people on the planet.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:26pm PT
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there's reasons and excuses. tough childhood, mom on tweak, is reason, but it's not an excuse. it doesn't give you the pass.
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:35pm PT
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lemmesee...
biggest thing I can think is that the thread ought to die. I only post since my boy Tom just put it back to the top of the list. Lots of people have been hurt by Shawn, but I don't see that the few on here who are gloating about his current predicament are relieving any of that hurt.
Next, really a new moniker needs to be chosen. Metolius is a wonderful company that has put out a lot of great products, survived in a tough industry for a long time, and employs people in a good American city, not in South Asia. Can you all just agree on "Jailbird Shawn" if you really must talk about him?
Further, I guess there may have been some difficult times in Shawn's youth. Those who accept at face value any stories he tells about buying tweak for his mom might want to take a step back and consider the source. Intelligent people with little integrity make very skilled liars.
Last, concur that whatever the truth of those stories or any others, at some point we all have to stand on our own two feet and be accountable for our actions. The pattern of ignoring natural talents and abilities and choosing to get by through thievery and other lawless behavior is going to be repaid with a long stint in prison. Unfortunately, prison is about the last place that someone might be able to turn themselves around and decide to make a decent life that enriches a community. So no one ought to get their hopes up.
And if you are still reading.....just don't hit the Reply button. So many better things to discuss.
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Rankin
climber
Bishop, CA
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:25pm PT
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chez, no way, don't believe a word of it from the c-man. That guy is so full of sh#t. Hell, he told me that you shot yourself, and well, here you are.
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Rankin
climber
Bishop, CA
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:34pm PT
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You're right all. There's no excuse for becoming a lawyer. I'm no good at lying anyways.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:31pm PT
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Got a Niceee fire burnin' in the place. Hey, it's gonna get into the 20's tonight in my San Diego, So Cal. Shiver me timbers as Skully would say.
Anyway, how can I tell my Boss that work is Greatly!!! infringing on my Taco exploits ! Gezzz, look how behind I am on this thread alone :]
Ok, enough whining....tho it does feel gut !
rlf, met you at the Tree. Respect you and your opinions.
Ron and Jeffie, Gratzi, Dudes !!! Haven't met Rankin. We are from the same locale...perhaps dialogue would be good. Then he'd know where Lynnie is "coming from".
Hi Nefarious ! Like your take on people and colors. Interesting to think about. I did Really change at one point in my life. How would you describe that. Really serious...would like to know. Like from navy blue to Caribbean ocean blue ?
And Elcap...LOLAROTF !!! Yo are Grate ....Funny and Lovin' It.
If yo remember you emailed me instructions for free showers et al during the Face Lift. It worked and thank yo so VERY mucho. : DDD
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2009 - 04:45am PT
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Here is another article from 08
http://www.ksrw.sierrawave.net/site/content/view/724/48/
With decades of thefts and so many friends who proclaim he has a good
heart its a shame he doesnt want to change.
Maybe this will be be the last straw.
Locker Edit:
Hey Chez and Rankin and Jebus...... enough thread drift already . Your confusing Roxjok. Isnt it time to kiss and make-up ?
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Feb 11, 2009 - 07:22am PT
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andanother wrote:
I read about his so-called "troubled" and "rough" childhood. Pretty funny.
Have any of you ever had to face any sort of REAL problems?
Sounds like you haven't. But many people HAVE been through tough times. Many people have been dealt some pretty shitty hands. And you know what? It makes them stronger. It makes them better people. And for those who don't rise above their troubles, it leaves them feeling bitter at worst.
Shawn's behavior doesn't sound like it's even linked to his past. But that doesn't matter. The kind of stuff that guy faced in his early years doesn't even qualify as traumatic. Grow the f*#k up. That goes for Shawn and the rest of you.
Reading through some of his adult history, it sounds like the guy has been given countless opportunities to do good. And he took those opportunities to screw over the people he knew.
So, even if his life WAS tough, there's no excuse for his actions. He's a peice of sh#t. A peice of sh#t that just happened to end up working at a climbing company at some point in the past. So now, instead of getting raped in jail, he's taking advantage of some of the nicest people on the planet.
Thank you, the voice of reason.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Feb 11, 2009 - 11:17am PT
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So the guy stole some stuff. You have any proof.
Any fingerprints to link him to said crime.
You all would make a good Lynch mob,
Shawn is one of the nicest people you will meet.
He loves his dog and is a vegetarian.
Juan
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DJS
Trad climber
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Feb 11, 2009 - 04:03pm PT
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I didn't really want to bump this thread... I kinda think it shouldn't exist in the first place... but does he really have a dog? If so is it being taken care of? Go ahead and call me a bleeding heart pansy liberal but I just don't think his dog (if it exists) should have to go through a tough time too... innocent bystander and all. If it was just pure JDF trolling then I took the bait but my questions stands.
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Prod
Trad climber
A place w/o Avitars apparently
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Feb 11, 2009 - 04:26pm PT
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Where does he cost us (read me) more money? In jail or on the streets? Maybe just handcuff and shackle slime like this “goodhearted” guy and set him free.
Prod.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Nov 26, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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Bitchin beard
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Nov 26, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
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Sounds like he needs some help. Show him kindness.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Nov 26, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
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So this Metolius Sean is the same person that this topic is about?
All but one of the pictures and links further up thread I cannot view...
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