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'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jan 8, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
" 'I don't see anything bold about free climbing an A2 route, especially with pre-placed pro on the existing route, or by taking a power drill to place bolts on new ground.'

In 1994, it was considered bold."


JLP - please tell me why this would be considered bold in 1994, or even 84 or 74. It may have been the first time such free climbing trickery [I am avoiding the use of the word "cheating"] was employed on a big wall, but where is the boldness? Do tell. To me, the adjective "bold" does not belong in the same sentence as the stylistic description, "pinkpoint".

Gentlemen, let us knott forget the fundamental difference between ethics and style. They are separate arguments - completely.

Certainly Coz never made any attempt to hide the pre-placed gear.

"wow it's funny to read you guys just picking cos apart! Looks like you are part of the unemployed and have nothing to do all day but be on this site!"

Er, um .... Hi. But hey - at least I don't work 60 to 100 hours per week like someone above says you do! Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!1111 [are the 1's or the !'s supposed to go first when you do that?]
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Jan 8, 2009 - 05:31pm PT
"Platinum Rob and I met Coz briefly in the Joshua Tree Santana's with Aldude."

This statement confuses me more than the total hypocrisy we've been discussing for the last 100 posts or so... Santana's is a total shithole! The food is f*#king horrible. Is it the only Mexican joint in JT, or what? You *know* you're in trouble when the pictures on the menu aren't even appetizing. Once was enough for me!
Cracko

Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
Jan 8, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
Nefarius,

You're killing me. Went to Santana's twice in keeping with tradition. Both times, I ended up in a Pit Toilet in JTree with Explosive Diarhea. Never again !!!


Cracko
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 8, 2009 - 07:55pm PT
The Kid is going to be bummed if this thread doesn't get to 300, ya know.

How about let's start ragging on them for using Eppi to haul and clean yet not contribute to the free climbing. Maybe we could then drift into a big wall slavery kind of thing.

;-)
Mimi

climber
Jan 8, 2009 - 08:22pm PT
Man, I'm so bummed I wasn't around to help with ferrying loads to the base on that one. I used to adore the various aspects of wall slavery. hahaha

Who wouldn't want GE up there.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Jan 8, 2009 - 08:55pm PT
No doubt, Cracko!!! I hear the breakfast burritos are supposed to be OK tho. Too afraid to try now!

GE only lives about 3 mins from Santana's and I bet he doesn't even eat there! hahaha

Gene

climber
Jan 9, 2009 - 06:37am PT
bump
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
North of the Owyhees
Jan 9, 2009 - 07:33am PT
What were we discussing, again?
It's lost in the drift.
yo

climber
I drink your milkshake!
Jan 9, 2009 - 07:45am PT
We were discussing how Karl has strident views on style and won't sleep until everyone agrees with him.

hehehe
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 9, 2009 - 08:30am PT
This thread has officially reached the status of SuperTorpor™
And as such, I deem it unofficially TOAST.

There will be other threads to play in.
Last person to leave the room please turn out the lights…
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 9, 2009 - 08:44am PT
Sorry, Kid, I tried.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 9, 2009 - 09:16am PT
I know, sad huh Mark, looks like even their thread isn't going to top out...
WBraun

climber
Jan 9, 2009 - 09:27am PT
It's a done deal many years ago. Only some participants from long ago in their arm chairs reflecting.

Down the road El Cap is standing there Supreme. It can not be conquered. There's no one at the bridge drinking some stupid beer projecting any hallucinations on the Captain now.

They come and go ....... but what do you really "see".
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 9, 2009 - 09:28am PT
To Mark and Tarbuster
Thanks for keeping it reel!



:-)
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 9, 2009 - 09:34am PT
It's ok Tar, we can rap in and finish it up later.......

Right on Werner.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
North of the Owyhees
Jan 9, 2009 - 10:13am PT
Werner, you're SO mystical.......Dig it.
coz

Trad climber
California
Jan 9, 2009 - 11:18am PT
One more story Boys and Girl before I go. One of the coolest things about the climb was the peregrine falcons (a male and female). We saw the same pair everyday, for 54 days. They would fly around us and sit perched near us.

Me and Medusa watched them kill, a raven, sitting on Mammoth, something we both never forgot. When we top out they flew up to the rim and followed us all the way down the east ledges.

When we hiked up four or five days latter to get our stuff, they meet us on top the east ledges and followed all the way to the top, sat while we ate and packed and followed us back down. When we hike into the tree they swooped down and let out a big war cry.

It was one of those cool thing connecting with another being, I knew in my heart I showed The Mighty Captain respect...... still do.

Thanks for all your kid words and to anybody who helped us out all those years ago.
Walleye

climber
The Pillored Entrance of the Same Mansion
Jan 9, 2009 - 11:22am PT
Ah Tarbaby........... That's "Stupor Torpor" I don't know how to do the tm trademark, but "Stupor Torpor is a trademark of Walter Flint and Kevin Fosburg.

Thank you
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 9, 2009 - 11:25am PT
Here you go Walleye,
You can have yours and I will keep mine, 'K?

Stupor Torpor™
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Jan 9, 2009 - 11:25am PT
Cool story, Coz. Thanks for sharing. :)
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