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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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" 'I don't see anything bold about free climbing an A2 route, especially with pre-placed pro on the existing route, or by taking a power drill to place bolts on new ground.'
In 1994, it was considered bold."
JLP - please tell me why this would be considered bold in 1994, or even 84 or 74. It may have been the first time such free climbing trickery [I am avoiding the use of the word "cheating"] was employed on a big wall, but where is the boldness? Do tell. To me, the adjective "bold" does not belong in the same sentence as the stylistic description, "pinkpoint".
Gentlemen, let us knott forget the fundamental difference between ethics and style. They are separate arguments - completely.
Certainly Coz never made any attempt to hide the pre-placed gear.
"wow it's funny to read you guys just picking cos apart! Looks like you are part of the unemployed and have nothing to do all day but be on this site!"
Er, um .... Hi. But hey - at least I don't work 60 to 100 hours per week like someone above says you do! Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!1111 [are the 1's or the !'s supposed to go first when you do that?]
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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"Platinum Rob and I met Coz briefly in the Joshua Tree Santana's with Aldude."
This statement confuses me more than the total hypocrisy we've been discussing for the last 100 posts or so... Santana's is a total shithole! The food is f*#king horrible. Is it the only Mexican joint in JT, or what? You *know* you're in trouble when the pictures on the menu aren't even appetizing. Once was enough for me!
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Nefarius,
You're killing me. Went to Santana's twice in keeping with tradition. Both times, I ended up in a Pit Toilet in JTree with Explosive Diarhea. Never again !!!
Cracko
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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The Kid is going to be bummed if this thread doesn't get to 300, ya know.
How about let's start ragging on them for using Eppi to haul and clean yet not contribute to the free climbing. Maybe we could then drift into a big wall slavery kind of thing.
;-)
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Mimi
climber
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Man, I'm so bummed I wasn't around to help with ferrying loads to the base on that one. I used to adore the various aspects of wall slavery. hahaha
Who wouldn't want GE up there.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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No doubt, Cracko!!! I hear the breakfast burritos are supposed to be OK tho. Too afraid to try now!
GE only lives about 3 mins from Santana's and I bet he doesn't even eat there! hahaha
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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What were we discussing, again?
It's lost in the drift.
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yo
climber
I drink your milkshake!
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We were discussing how Karl has strident views on style and won't sleep until everyone agrees with him.
hehehe
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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This thread has officially reached the status of SuperTorpor™
And as such, I deem it unofficially TOAST.
There will be other threads to play in.
Last person to leave the room please turn out the lights…
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Sorry, Kid, I tried.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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I know, sad huh Mark, looks like even their thread isn't going to top out...
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WBraun
climber
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It's a done deal many years ago. Only some participants from long ago in their arm chairs reflecting.
Down the road El Cap is standing there Supreme. It can not be conquered. There's no one at the bridge drinking some stupid beer projecting any hallucinations on the Captain now.
They come and go ....... but what do you really "see".
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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To Mark and Tarbuster
Thanks for keeping it reel!
:-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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It's ok Tar, we can rap in and finish it up later.......
Right on Werner.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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Werner, you're SO mystical.......Dig it.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Here you go Walleye,
You can have yours and I will keep mine, 'K?
Stupor Torpor™
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Cool story, Coz. Thanks for sharing. :)
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Tar
You shudda said K2?
:-)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Yes well, I rip off, I mean borrow, other people's trademarks 'n shiiet here all the time.
It's just the way the taco bends...
Yes: very nice Coz.
KICKASSS™™™ in fact.
(Trademark, Russ Musswaddd™ Walling)
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