1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
May 25, 2005 - 06:57pm PT
You need to make sure you get an earful of the bad juju that has happened to many of the participants after the fact.

people dying
serious injuries
major rip offs

So..who did end up with the Black Book???

Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 07:10pm PT
I'm working on finding out about the black book as well what was in it. Not to keep it secret, I just don't have access to all of the facts right now. Stay tuned
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 07:41pm PT
Ok, here's the inside stuff on the "Black Book"

It was recovered but it was deemed illegible by the Feds.
What did it contain? Names, addresses, dates, money owed, money paid. All encrypted (remember, not too many people running around with high end laptops back in the mid-70's. Many wanted the book, but the Feds ended up with it.
Stonecowboy2001

Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
May 25, 2005 - 08:31pm PT
there is some info aka folklore provided by lynn hill in the national geographic 'adventure' issue april 2002
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 08:55pm PT
Yeah, Pam is in route to her place. When she gets home she's going to try to contact Lynn.

National Geographic did an article on it as well back then.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Bishop is DEAD, long live JT
May 25, 2005 - 09:11pm PT
As I remember, the plane took off from Yosemite West and was flying a big loop back to Yosemite West just to fool the FAA, DEA, NPS, CHP, SPCA and all the rest. Seemed to work as nobody would suspect this. All the weed was grown up on Michaels Ledge and Lay Lady Ledge and was moved by bicycle up to the West for packaging. This might be the first time the truth has ever been written. I hope it does not get anyone in trouble.
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:12pm PT
The biggest problem was that the bikes weren't registered
Russ Walling

Social climber
Bishop is DEAD, long live JT
May 25, 2005 - 09:15pm PT
I think all the bike registration was in the black book. This will be a tough one to sort out. What is the statute of limitations on bike registration? Plus, I bet a few of those bikes were stolen from the Ice Cream Stand at the lodge. Hmmmmm....
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:26pm PT
You are the only one outside of those inside that knew about the SPCA. Amazing details are being revieled. I'm hanging around for more.
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:35pm PT
We worried that we didn't have a license for the 1,500 lamas that were going to be used to outpack the shredded wheat rolls. The plan was to air drop them the next morning in packs of six...Lama six packs!

Now I'm starting to do this stuff too!
Sewellymon

Social climber
.....in a single wide......
May 25, 2005 - 10:24pm PT
ok- here is a maybe true story..

so it's perhaps early march now? '77

a foursome of camp 4's elite (kauk,sutton, burton, forget who else) head up a snowy NA wall. why? i always figured just to get the helll outta of Dodge for awhile

(ascent was epic, if i recall the tall tales.. .
WBraun

climber
May 25, 2005 - 10:33pm PT
I saw the whole thing unravel from the very, very begining before anybody out there knew anything. But I'm not talking until I get ok from the original guys ........and that's that. Actually the original crew should do the talking if anybody. I wouldn't be throwing peoples names around here either, just bad style unless you were there.
Ballaroama

Trad climber
so.cal
May 25, 2005 - 10:49pm PT
I was there from the very begining and the crew that you think were the first to see and remove anything were NOT the usual suspects posted above. And I would have agree with Werner, don't post names because it's really lame, hot rats eat 44 bullets for breakfast.
Besides the fact that there were many more players than even the players could imagine, parts of the story should not ever be published.

Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 02:45am PT
I can appreciate a little help here, but if you notice, I've not asked for any names on the thread. Only via PM or phone.
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 03:04am PT
I think maybe I should have changed my nic to "Ladle" for stirring up so much...uh...stuff.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
May 26, 2005 - 03:34pm PT
The incident inspired fiction beyond Largo's "premise" and the awful Cliffhanger. Jeff Long's fantastic (literally) novel Angels of Light, and the Nevada Barr mystery High Country, come to mind. Other examples?
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 08:18pm PT
I've only told this to one other guy so far. Anyone know the reason why the Park Service decided to not wait until the lake thawed to go up and do recovery?
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 10:16pm PT
Ok...here's the story. It turns out that the dive shop in Fresno called up a guy in Yosemite and said, "Hey...ya know we got guys down here that want to rent out just about everything we have!"

Dead of winter too. So the Rangers scooted up to the lake using a chopper.
nerdie

Ice climber
sacramento
May 26, 2005 - 10:26pm PT
30 years later I cant imagine anyone going to jail unless a more serious crime was involved other than distributing drugs and destroying peoples lives to turn a quick buck because one was too lazy to get a real job. Come on, a good report of the story would be interesting to read. Everyone knows there are people in all walks of life who try to cut corners and make a quick buck. If theyre afraid of being exposed as such maybe they should have thought twice before doing it. I cant wait for the book Licky! Good luck! Lets see who out there got their start the good old fashioned way, through Illegal activities!
Licky

Social climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 10:31pm PT
Nerdie, don't be so quick to jump. (no pun intended). So far over half a dozen people have agreed to tell their stories so we can publish this book. Pam and I will be telling the entire story about how the plane got to that point, the gang that were there then will tell theirs, and we'll also tell about what went on after the crash as far as the investigation, lawsuits, and such.

To be honest, most have stepped forward with a hell of a lot of enthusiasm. No one seems to be holding back. When I post some of the things that I do, its to let people know that I'm not blow'n smoke here.
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