1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 16, 2015 - 09:10pm PT
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Barefoot

climber
Oakland, CA
Feb 17, 2015 - 10:51am PT
Hi folks,

I posted late last week in the hopes that someone might tell their tale for a radio story I'm working on. We're not the news. We're taking a purely entertainment angle. Let me know if you'd like some more information.

Best,

Julia DeWitt
Producer
NPR-Snap Judgment
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 17, 2015 - 01:42pm PT
Julia, paranoia runs deep, into their hearts it has crept.
They don't believe in the statute of limitations, neither.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 17, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
^I think it's more a lack of interest. Only people with too much time on their hands spend time on this type of thing.

One thing though, you do find out a lot of stuff you never would have. I am amazed at the number of plane crashes there have been and what the difference between a mule and a burro is.

Visit the American Donkey & Mule Society (ADMS) page, but be aware that it is under modification.












zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 20, 2015 - 09:58am PT
Can't always get what you want.

Can't always believe what you hear and/or read.

The message was reinforced recently. There's a lot of "folklore" surrounding this epoch in U.S. history.

Some ouf it may derive from the minions of Uncle Sam himself.


Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2015 - 12:27am PT
They come and they go...
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 22, 2015 - 06:39am PT
The smallest big man that told stories to us young pups living in the dirty old camp four
That is before the re configuration that started with the moving of the rescue site in (?)'79.
Or '80? Well when ever the camp4 living had been the same for forty years or so.and seniority was the way the best, most private sites were occupied.

The crash changed all that. That was how we were told it. The best sites, the longest held by the biggest DOGZ fell into division and disused corners of camp four reappeared. By '83 the park service started changing things
The whole campsite went through like three different configurations.
Animals and the food they scavenged had been attracting unwanted bear visits for along time
But the sudden more empty than full camp'78 and for the next year or so made the Bears more bold

The story went that some of the last big stash of that stuff got bagged in a dirty bag that some bear made off with some of it.

Said hippie to hippie wanna bees it went down hill inthe second year
He said it was skunks that could not find salamanders and toads or frogs to eat that started acting bad climbing for food bags scratching in the corners of tent and tent sites for scraps and even cardboard. That is what hippie had buried his stash in. The little buggers of the valley floor ate and fouled beyond smoking or selling the last quater pound?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 22, 2015 - 07:45am PT
My mind is very mushy about this stuff!

I have so hoped that some of my lightweight pals would turn up 35 years

Name removed He should show up just for my calling him a lightweight!

Others were just that but it would be wrong as that name bomb, above, to mention

Any one on this thread!! Remember where we are

Bag💪ger . . . .? Get in touch!!



Edited! To protect the very guilty (of a mis-spent? 'Yutha')

Where ho where has my little dog gone? (Singing) FA fa fa lala! lala! La la
WBraun

climber
Feb 22, 2015 - 07:55am PT
Huh? What? When? Where? Drool ....

Good job men and women of history.

What me worry ...... :-)
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 22, 2015 - 09:33am PT
The hardcore stuff with gunz and all here: The Mammoth Book of Drug Barons

Nineteen thrilling stories from the murky world of major international drug dealing, detailing the lavish lifestyles of larger-than-life characters like Curtis Warren, Howard Marks, Pablo Escobar, George Jung, and many others: from the jungles of South America to the pot farms of Canada; from China, Thailand, and Afghanistan to Spain, London and Liverpool.


Idle speculation. Had the Brotherhood of Eternal Love and the Coronado Company merged could they have become a billion dollar outfit?

The Internal Revenue Service and the California Franchise Tax Board have assessed the Brotherhood of Eternal Love corporation for over $70 million in back taxes. The Brotherhood according to the IRS, must have made something over $200 million in its illicit operations.

A total of six hashish oil laboratories were seized, along with over 30 gallons of hashish oil and approximately 6,000 pounds of solid hashish. Of these six laboratories, four were being operated within the United States, three of which were in California and one in Hawaii. Two others were being operated within foreign countries; one in Costa Rica, and one in Afghanistan.



Thai Stick: Surfers, Scammers, and the Untold Story of the Marijuana Trade



Coronado Co. 60 Minutes video upstream.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Feb 22, 2015 - 10:35am PT
God lord I miss Thai sticks. Summer of '77 we had an ounce of Thai sticks and left 'em on the roof of the car in the Glacier Point parking spot.

That was a difficult time.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 22, 2015 - 12:25pm PT
Here's one you can probably empathize with Ric.

Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
Yep Z, looks and sounds very familiar
WBraun

climber
Feb 22, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
I wonder if Dill would put me back on?

Dill has no say.

The Sar site in Camp 4 is run by LEO ......
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2015 - 06:00pm PT
In 2010 a book was published titled "It Happened In Yosemite Natinal Park" written by Ray Jones and Joe Lubow. Jones out of Pebble Beach and Lubow out of Santa Cruz. This is the kind of junk that is being published and this is why I am working on the truth. Here are a few of their talking points:

Each bale was 140 pounds

The name of the plane was "Lodestar Lightning"

The plane was a Lockheed PV-1 Ventura

The plane had been "refurbished" with two jets that totaled 5,000 additional horsepower

With the jets mounted, it could now fly 2,200 miles on a single tank of fuel

The prop engines were referred to as "aging"

One of the engines "fell off" and the rest of the plane followed

The lake was at 9,000 feet in altitude

Divers (Butch Farabee) were used to search the lake and the plane, but no bodies were found

A recovery operation was put in place, but called off due to a February blizzard

To stop those that were stealing the dope, US Customs Agents were parachuted in to put a stop. Two didn't get away and were arrested.

Not until the salvage operation was it discovered that one of the bodies surfaced

A lawyer in Santa Barbara was presented with the $20K in clean up costs (actually it was the pilot, Glisky who's wife Pam that was presented with the bill and she beat it)
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 23, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
Naked Lunch?

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Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
It was not a Ventura. Pretty much all of those points that I posted were totally incorrect.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 30, 2015 - 06:28am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video] I keep finding funny cultural links,all the bands of this ilk, would be playin' the smuggling songs, The song By Little Feat
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WBraun

climber
Mar 30, 2015 - 08:35am PT
The original very first weed recovered and carried out of the lake down to the Valley that winter was Thai sticks .......

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Apr 7, 2015 - 05:15pm PT
In other news ...
Boa Vista, April 7th, 2015. (venezuelanalysis.com)- A wrecked plane, discovered on 2 April in a Western region of Venezuela, was carrying nearly a ton of cocaine and was registered with the official fleet of Mexico’s Attorney General’s Office.

Three bodies and 999 kilos of cocaine were found in the Cessna Conquest 441, which crashed on Thursday.

The remains of Norberto Filemon Miranda Perez and Francisco Javier Engombia Guadarrama were confirmed by the Commanding General of Venezuela’s Armed Forces on Saturday.

Miranda Perez, believed to be the pilot, was a regional director of the General Prosecutor’s Aerial Services, a branch of the justice department responsible for investigating federal and state crimes. He held office during the presidency of Felipe Calderon.

The third individual has not yet been identified, though documents naming a Bernardo Lisey Valdez were also found in the wreck.

Built in 1981 in the United States, the aircraft belonged to the Colombian firm Aerotaxi Calamar in the late 1990s, until it passed into Mexican ownership under unknown circumstances, eventually appearing as part of the Attorney General fleet in 2000 under the code XB-KGS.

No records indicating the Cessna’s transfer to private hands have been located, though a photo on jetphoto.com shows what may be the same aircraft in the Benito Juarez airport of Mexico City in 2007, with a new code – indicating new ownership.

According to Venezuelan authorities, the plane may have been downed by military efforts. Information was recorded of a bullet impacting an aircraft of similar characteristics that day, in the nearby region of Apure.

Mexico’s Foreign Ministry released a statement yesterday indicating the government’s intent to collaborate with Venezuelan authorities to uncover the details of the crash.
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