1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jun 15, 2013 - 02:03am PT
I don't know why I have to jump back into this cesspool but it's like a train wreck...

As far as the "why" the airplane crashed, I have a feeling you might be digging for gold in a compost heap. I sent you quite a bit of info a couple years ago, as I recall.

I'm not sure how much flight time you have, if any, but I will lay out some facts here.

1. The aircraft was overloaded
2. They were flying low in bad terrain in bad weather
3. They may have had an engine with a bad oil line

Planes with perfectly healthy engines and well within load limits have been swatted to the ground in the Sierra more times then I can count. You can encounter all kinds of wind shear and rotor up there even on clear air days. See what happened to Steve Fossett.

If they did lose a mill in the weather conditions at the time of the accident, they were screwed unless they got damned lucky. The Howard does not like to fly on one turning at the best of times. It was always and still is a very difficult plane to fly, and I seem to recall the pilot didn't have a whole lot of time in it.

It's been confirmed that one of the motors is still in the lake. Go up and take a look. If you get lucky, the prop will still be intact enough to see whether it was feathered or under power when it hit. The wing separated just outboard of the engine, but no way of telling which motor is there until its surveyed. For that matter, have you personally visited the site?

The most likely scenario, with or without an engine out, is that they encountered wind shear, and due to the overload pulled the wing off of it trying to pull out before they hit the ground.
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jun 15, 2013 - 06:19am PT
Skidmark...Its good to see you succumb to trolling. Your own lame craft appears to be oblivious to you.

So no table of contents?
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jun 15, 2013 - 09:36am PT
You ever wonder why balsawood planes don't crash in the water?

Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jun 15, 2013 - 09:41am PT
You ever wonder why balsawood planes don't crash in the water?

Because they can't crash IN the water, only ON the water.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jun 15, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
I spose they also don't crash on the levee, though I can't confirm it at this time.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Wanna bet that if they find the missing plane crash files they'll also find all the guns that they seem to have lost?
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jun 29, 2013 - 08:53am PT
I'll try a third time:

Can we at least see a Table of Contents?
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jun 29, 2013 - 10:15am PT
and for a third time - No.

It's time to get on the wire.




He knows about guns.
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jun 29, 2013 - 10:53am PT
Licky, why are these guns important to the story?

Most of your readers couldn't care less about that.

And your non-readers, even less. If possible.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jul 1, 2013 - 10:36am PT
While waiting fore [sic] the intermission to end, please enjoy some fine music by Mr. Duane Eddy and the orchestra:



What good thread is a thread ( just what is a good thread ) without some entertaining music and video?

I'm sure there is at least one reader who can expound on this. A song a day, keeps the pundits at bay, or least off the Bay Bridge.

Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jul 6, 2013 - 07:09am PT
Licky, please stop sending me your unwanted messages.
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jul 6, 2013 - 01:15pm PT


"Save the Bails" ! ! !
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jul 6, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Credit: zBrown

Don't want to sound like a broken record, particularly since most of y'all have probably scrapped your turntables, but The Coronado Company, in it's illustrious career, never lost a penny's worth of dope to a plane crash.

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 6, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
Sorry I'm entering this thread so late and I'm not about to go back and read the whole thing. Jus wondering if your still looking for info? I wouldn't say shite here but if you want to take the next step email me

Jus Say'in
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jul 7, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
Where are all the pics of this fandango? Gotta be some and who cares anymore. Anyone who was there back in '77 is like 60 now.

JL
AE

climber
Boulder, CO
Jul 10, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
BLUEBLOCR
If you are too disinterested to read 7 years of pointless meandering posts that have to date revealed nothing, what's wrong with you?

Seriously, without at least a quick perusal of the entries made by key figures in the saga, you will either miss the humor here, or else be led down a dark and winding path by Mr. Licky, the OP who promised great literary and journalistic revelations, only to wind up spewing rants and conspiracy theories ad nauseum.

As JL himself noted, noone from that era has ever offered anything new or noteworthy, having either died or stopped giving a crap about another tiny footnote in the drug-smuggling history of the '70s.
Whatever you do, don't engage L; you'll only wake him up and encourage him to keep phishin'.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 10, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Where are all the pics of this fandango? Gotta be some and who cares anymore. Anyone who was there back in '77 is like 60 now.

JL

So you need to rub it in????

And this story might just be a minor story in the whole 70's pot smuggling deal, but darn, it was the beginning of the modern outdoor gear/clothing industry that we know today.

So dude are you ever going to finish this book????????????

As it is now - it will be listed under "Ancient History"
Mustang

climber
From the wild, not the ranch
Jul 11, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
"Lickety Splickety", from the movie 8 mile, sums this thread up IMO, still makes me smile:>)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okT3_Or69EM
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Hope you get the book done. Sounds like an interesting story. A bunch of dirtbag climbers hitting a pot of gold, albeit columbian. Hard to believe anyone would smoke pot soaked in airplane fuel... but it does explain the weird posts of some people on this forum.
Hot and sticky today, but off to wrestle a few pebbles anyway....
Keep plugging away Licky
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
cuvvy.... the fuel got into the lake water.... the pot- well some of it- got into the lake.... the ones that didn't - were killer. The ones that got wet did have a "taste".....

have fun with the pebbles.
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