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WBraun

climber
Apr 18, 2013 - 09:48am PT
what does a sex pistol have to do with yosemite, climbing,

We put stuff like this up here just for YOU since you're so stupid you fall for anything even if it's not related to you.

Three, two, one ...... verbal explosion !!!!!!

Any minute now you'll go off the rocker again into another stupid knee jerk rant because of this post too.

We all sit back laugh at your stupidity .....
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 18, 2013 - 09:57am PT
laugh out loud moron - SO WHAT? you brag about being so easily amused - i guess you're just one flew over the cookoo's nest, laughing maniacally at things that really aren't amusing - you still aren't contributing any more than those of us you laugh at - if i can bring a smile to someone in the nuthouse then so be it - i'm just amazed that you think i care - a rainy day and i'm clicking away - are you upset that i'm laughing at you? NO? and if you are so delusional as to think that i care if you laugh at me then keep hallucinating - did ya take too much acid back in the old hippie days brawny?
Woo Lse

climber
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
This thread outperformed the others because it actually had people on it that were involved amd a couple of the actual participants actually had the guts to post up personal accounts.






This is an ignomenous end for all that.


Cliffhanger was nothing like the lake story, where were John Lithgow and who had machine gun? Really, talking like that just perpetuates sh#t.



Did somebody chain a helicopter to the damn wall?

Y'all'd learned a lot more had not so many yall turned out to be pricks.



I certainly had a few chapters left.
squishy

Mountain climber
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
this thread use to be a real piece of history...
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 18, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
Is it really "guts" to trust your legacy,
reputation perhaps even freedom (at the very
least the freedom to reinvent oneself) to the
capriciousness of an unknown entity who has
aspirations to be a writer? Would you have the
"guts" to apply for a position in an organization
with the wherewithal and inclination to demand an
intrusive check of one's bodily fluids, and then
expect them to not do some kind of comprehensive
cybersearch of your personal correspondence? Is it
“guts” to trust secrets to licky? Many guys our age
have children who are young adults who are considerably
more computer-savvy than we are – is it “guts” to
risk alienating or upsetting your family were they
to discover how daddy paid for college back in the day?
Is it “guts” to help empower, perhaps even enrich a
cynically non-professional wannabe historian that
offers little and asks much? Let’s dispense with the
macho posturing. It doesn’t take “guts” to do something
stupid for no benefit other than to impress ex-daredevils
that one will likely never meet, unless you wind up being
unfortunate cellmates chained together in some arcane
litigation that the deskchair supertopo lawyers promised
could never happen due to some ambiguous legal shields called
“statutes of limitation”?

REALLY?!!!

“Guts” indeed

GO AHEAD AND FOOL YOURSELF
BLURT AND BLAB FOR LICKY
TELL HIM, THEM, US YOUR STORY AND SECRETS

IF YOU HAVE THE “GUTS”

TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Apr 18, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
"Only I can spin your grass into gold; trust me"
"Only I can spin your grass into gold; trust me"
Credit: summer 1977 park bum
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Apr 18, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Reminds me of someone. . . .
Reminds me of someone. . . .
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 18, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
sidmo

got it now, dumbass?

I will observe that this is a circular reference, but you won't get it.

Sid V was an entertainer

He took drugs

Nancy died in 1978

Controversy swirled around his death and that of Nancy

This thread's value is entertainment, as will be Ric's book should it ever get finished

You, on the other hand, derive some other kind of value from the thread

Your knife is so dull, you could ride it into town

(ask Donini or Herr Braun to explain it to you - I've done all I can)

Oh wait, do you listen to music? This one even has the words.



sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 19, 2013 - 05:20am PT
What is this, phuckin Youtube? Or MTV? And since when is history defined as entertainment? Your hero Licky is, or was meticulously compiling facts to give an accurate historical rendition of an actual event. Entertainment? Even I don’t think that is fair to Licky . . . or accurate. I recommended some time ago that he take what he had and write a novel. To his credit he persevered to compile data and regardless of my opinion of his lack of professionalism he wants to get it right . . . I don’t think his motivation is to entertain morons like you but to inform the curious as to what the phuck happened. Entertainment? What is he to you, a trained seal? You insult Licky, history and intellectual discourse. Must you dumb this thread down to your level? If you think sidviscous should be a part of this then you are casting such a wide net that nothing gets filtered out. You’re an insult to climbers everywhere, if you ever were a committed mountaineer.

Note to the world:
CLIMBERS ARE NOT ALL AS MORONIC AS THESE VIDEO POSTERS
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 19, 2013 - 10:11am PT
committed mountaineer

Luke Stong?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=312325&msg=2033099#msg2033099

edit: damn, i forgot to attach a video reference, zbrown?

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 19, 2013 - 10:51am PT
Well if you insist, but all of the Stong videos have been purged.

This is as close as I can come while still remaining within sidmo's rather strict guidelines re: historical import. This commercial aired well before the plane went down.

Ajax cleans dirt. Rocks smash Ajax. Gravel? It is what it is.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 19, 2013 - 11:02am PT
Thank god we have this well-reasoned and thoughtfully conducted thread to
retreat to from the hellfire and brimstone of all those other threads!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 19, 2013 - 11:33am PT
thanks zBrown, I am sure sidmo "gets it" now.

Hard to beleive that this thread is a respite from the slander and mudslinging of "the other" threads.

Is Ajax stonger than slander?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 19, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Is Ajax stonger than slander?

It depends upon whether the slander breaks the skin.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 19, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Oh Sh#t! shanghaied, not this guy again but really I have to respond I tried to hold back but really you love the attention that you are stupid.

Ok! 5 months go bye and now you are posting the same crap: Everyone hates, belittles you or does not understand your reasoning.

“but I suspect Licky and the haters will disagree . . . and likely attack me for being stupid, etc. I'd be stupid if I told you what happened without knowledge of the facts, which I do not have. But to pose a question seems” That seems right you have no brain.

“myself who don't write down to their intellectual level,” That’s right.

“Major motion picture” thought to be based in part on the story, as I understand. It could be a fascinating read if well done”.

At the time back in the days of Meese [Governor Reagan’s] pot was a bad word even though both had knowledge but denied it about supplied drugs to the US during the Contra expedition. Even lawyers during the early 80’s would not take on clients that come in and say” I just busted for smoking a joint can you help me”. They knew the Feds went after them as well or made it hard for them or would be put on a list so they stayed clear of any case that had to do with pot.

A movie about pot would not sell so Sly baby changes the story line with money.

But this one is the best: Posted Apr 17, 2013 - 06:28pm PT

“Yeah I think so - been a long time, but I ate there most every day - whoops, let out a secret huh? wasn't that place pricey?:

“- whoops, let out a secret huh? wasn't that place pricey?” about eating at the pricy Ahwahnee almost every day. What secret was that: are you saying; you had the funds to pay for such an exclusive club or overheard a conversation that Meese said?

But in Aug 20 2012 05:55 am you posted:

“You shanghaied yourself that time, thanks for one of the more delusional rants yet – I’m done with you geniuses – Ed Meese?! Really?! And you attack me? I served Meese lunch once, and he was lucid and polite, more than can be said for you – and he was a 20% tipper, I doubt you share much with your server.

Licky, good luck – sincerely. You have to endure morons like shanghai. I’m sorry I ever rattled your cage – in retrospect, you didn’t deserve it. Not considering the fact that you have to deal with morons like shanghai.

Licky, I’ll let you know when I’m nearby, in case you want the story. With morons like shanghai here on the thread I’d prefer not to post it, sorry.

No hard feelings from this end, despite the morons like shanghai”

Then I responded by saying “Like I said before “A fool will always end up stepping in their own Sh^t”.

Ok! So you ate the left overs’ from Meese and his friends maybe Neil McDonald that brilliant famous head of MCA’s Security or was it Jules Stein when he arrived in his private personal helicopter [MCA] which was illegal but the YNP officials said OK!

Was the bacon or sausage he had sent back since he was Jewish that you got to scam or the toast, potatoes or eggs not correctly cooked the right way and had to be sent back, maybe half a steak uneaten from a guest?

So what is this this secret? So I will add like I did before but with a change: A fool will always end up stepping in their own Sh^t”. You proved yourself from the above but are you smoking this rather than stepping in it; seems to me has to be the only answer.

sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 19, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Shanghead’s back – instead or composing sentences he’s cut-and-pasting mine again – it’s ok, call it my greatest hits album . . . better yet, call it shanghai’s picks from the vault

Shang, don’t you wish you had that time back? The time you wasted pasting my words back on the thread I mean – they are already there you know – and where did you get the fantasy about me eating off meese’s plate, or anyone else’s – I’ll leave those cafeteria trays to you camp 4 bums

and randisi – you are in some clique that liked me once but no longer? So what, then and now – I don’t care if you like me ever, or your little friends – I don’t do anything to curry your favor, anymore than Curry Co. curried our favor

Jonny, so you think I get it now? I doubt I ever get anything you expect me to – I’ll continue to try to let y’all down

And ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, your videos are making me very very sleepy . . . ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (PASTE IN SNORING SOUNDS HERE)
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 19, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
sidmo, can I get you a cup of Java? It's free.

sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 20, 2013 - 08:32pm PT
no thanx - i took a nappypoo - videos are so boring, nice not to see one for a change - now, does anyone here want to talk about the "plane" in a metaphysical sense, or should we continue to trade insults like pre-adolescents on a yellow school bus?
Woo Lse

climber
Apr 22, 2013 - 09:15am PT
In the end marijuana will be fully legalized and all this will be considered cute and archaic, with no more relevance than a disturbing the peace charge from a Selma demonstration.

A lesson in economics and real world tactics.

Heroes of the underground making the world a better place through chemistry. The brotherhood of the underground freight railroad.

A lesson on the effectiveness of self forming cellular criminal networks and the organic process of espionage and the formation and support of secret underground insurgent organization. Good practice for hard times, actually. Criminal minutemen forming spontaneous networks of interlocking cells transporting and providing services to the overwhelming, invisible super-organism or a business cooperative.


In short, at this point in history, we, the true actors, the people who DID decide to risk everything Sidmo describes, are a complete and total Granfalloon. Critically unimportant to anything.

Like the Stonemasters and everyone else from that period.

Or this one for that matter. Climbing is replete with unsupported self-importance.

I made the decision to tell the story, it was others who decided to out identities and cry about how some others were telling the stories. If you had anything much to say, you'd either a said it or moved on. The story is worth telling, and it has some interesting twists, along with my personal interest.

I really don't get your beef. I ain't particularly ashamed about anything I did on that outing. At worst its morally ambiguous to retrieve lost cargo from a train. The owners were not exactly going to show up to claim it or the insurance companies either.

But at the time, I did consider my risk to reward ratio and was very serious about what I was taking on. Times were very hard if you were trying to get money, the economy was actually worse than now for the street people, which was why there were so many of them.

But, You are right there Sidmo. Most people, you included, would never roll those dice in that game. I was different than you. Always will be. I wanted that opportunity and I took it. Could have turned out much worse than it did.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 22, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
Taking chances was what we all did for fun back then – sure there were unseen dangers like rockfall and narcs, but we took calculated risks and mitigated the exposure when possible. But the plane dragged some loosy-goosy characters into the mix, and their blind recklessness worried me then. I mainly worried for the naive, my bases were pretty well covered. And I don’t particularly think there’s any residual danger now, but who really knows? Licky? Any good reason to trust his judgement? Or his allegiances and/or affilations? The profit now is all his to claim, so I ask the age-old question: “what’s in it for me?”
What gets me is the supertopo legal team counseling us on the SOLs – like I’m gonna believe some anonomous poster about the law – this thing has been a joke from post one – licky doesn’t want to know what life was really like for us, he just wants to pose as a writer – maybe he hangs out at some English department and need a project to waste time on, but he cant be serious or he wouldn’t alienate any potential sources – a pro would just thank us for the input and then toss it in the round file, but licky lets certain posters really get under his skin – his anger gives him away as a rank amateur, and I can’t see any good reason to help him out – if he was more polite . . . maybe
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