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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
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Oct 29, 2005 - 03:36pm PT
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––actually, they were probably smoking "boulders", not climbing them...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 03:55pm PT
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S till waiting on the details, the one thing I know they didn't steal was the bouldering pad, maybe they were dumb boulderers, wanted more squish, didn't notice the Fish™ stamp of quality;alls I know, is that my 49 yr old ankles are jonseing the faux leopard bulls-eye.
-maybe they just stole the cams! Rogue Trads, or trads gone bad!
The 1/2 way between hi & low bluebook is kinda what i settled on,- not much $ in this case.
It will get wierder before it's over. I will report.
No climbing bumper stickers BTW, just like all the cars I've owned.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 29, 2005 - 08:22pm PT
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I hope that all your gear is still in the car, and they had absolutley no use for the stuff, just wanted to take the car.....
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 08:34pm PT
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Thanks LEB, and all
I've pretty much let it go by now. Though it's wierd to be using reserve gear from twenty years ago (except for wide pro). I posted again because I thought it was humorus/ironic to be maybe, retrieving that stuff.
I feel for that pang of violation you alluded to, had a similar thing happen with a renter a year ago. This Vegas thing was not like that, though. I locked up the old funky rig and somebody apparently got to it right off. I kinda expected that they would just drive it and abandon it,( as it appears they did -not worth stripping. My bad luck the contents and situation around it.
Anything I retrieve will be a bonus at this point, but you're right, they are bottom feeders, though, catfish are people too.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 10:22pm PT
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Yeah, you're right, that was harsh on the catfish. I think my point was that it's just unproductive to retain anger against whoever the lowlife crackhead was who decided it was easier to jimmie a car with a screwdriver than pay for the bus.
I make no excuse for their behavior.
I don't know the answer, but I think The thing To Do ( yeah, I am very much a bleeding heart Liberal™) is to figure out what we can do to make this and other sorts of crime less attractive.
Getting medevil on their butt will make them more ruthless and I will feel worse in the long run.
I really don't know the answer to this, but I think any of us has bigger things going on that are more important to deal with than to hold on to this kind of stuff too long. This is on the level of paying Taxes. Okay, worse than that, but not as bad as it could be. we all know peoplee who died needlessly, or had,'unfair' medical complications.
Three applicable Cliches;
1)There but for the grace of --- go, I.
2)An eye for an eye leaves us all blind.
3) Since my house burned down I have a better view of the mountain.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2005 - 10:27pm PT
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I didn't do it man :-)
Have ya got the car yet?
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Oct 29, 2005 - 10:27pm PT
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Sh*t Jay that SUCKS!! I'll keep an eye out here in Josh...I hope they rot in HELL!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2005 - 06:15pm PT
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The way I look at it, the fact that THEY (whoever, they are), did it, implies that they ARE in hell, whether they know it or not.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 30, 2005 - 10:56pm PT
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The club is a joke man I can defeat it as fast as i can hacksaw thru your steering wheel, under a minute easily.
1) Disable your rig by taking your high voltage primary spark plug wire with you.
2) Use the club that goes on the brake pedal.
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Oct 30, 2005 - 10:59pm PT
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Yeah, theft is a bitch psychologically. Bunch of stuff (wallet, stereo, gear) got stolen out of my Cruiser in Utah, irony of ironies. They left the car, thankfully, but that was far and away the angriest I've ever been.
Which ones the primary spark plug, W? What if I know jack about cars?
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Landgolier
climber
the flatness
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Oct 30, 2005 - 11:01pm PT
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My old high school shop teacher installed an ignition cutoff switch in an unused slot meant for optional fog lights. Hell of a trick, there was no way of knowing it was there.
The club is pretty easy to defeat if you're trying to steal one car in particular, but it is a pretty good deterrent if you just want to make yours harder to jack than the next one down the street. Werner's got the ticket if you need to leave it somewhere remote, though.
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Oct 30, 2005 - 11:06pm PT
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Only one end for a friggin' gear thief...
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Oct 30, 2005 - 11:09pm PT
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Werd, Mike.
I'll just start yanking wires next time, eh, Werner? I just remembered, when I was on the Trip with Geoff this summer I was scoping my truck down in the Meadow. Red with black shell, sorta unique. But the last day it was gone! I threw a f*#king conniption up there and Geoff goes, "Dude, there was another red/black truck a hundred meters up the road." Mine was just behind the trees. haha
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BeBe
Sport climber
Phoenix
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Oct 31, 2005 - 03:13pm PT
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Gear thieves suck.
Instant Karma will get them.
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AKutzer
Trad climber
From Texas to Tahoe
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Oct 31, 2005 - 07:53pm PT
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To cops (and anyone else), climbing stickers = pot inside!
Sorry for your loss, Jaybro.
Who'd steal climbing gear?
I don't need the bad karma that accompanies that sort of theft!
If you need to borrow a rack or rope, let me know - I live in South Lake Tahoe.
Keep us updated on the possible recovery of some of it!
For what it's worth, I had a crappy weekend, too -
I fell asleep driving back to Tahoe from Bishop a few miles North of Lee Vining. Car bounces off right side of road (cliff going up) and "180's" across the highway (luckily no oncoming traffic) and bashes into a barricade - which held, keeping me and the car from a 200 ft plus fall down a cliff.
Car's totalled, but I'm fine. Whew!
Aaron
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CAMNOTCLIMB
Trad climber
novato ca
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Jaybro,
It is time to create the Gear Thief size of Hardman,s rat catcher.
Good luck on on all the crap that follows a theft.
Brian
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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A brief trip down memory lane. A story of missed oppotunities and moral fiber. Russ or any other old dude who was around at the time please feel free to correct any errors.
Back in the early 80s, some friends were fixing on a route on the right side El Cap. After hauling their bags up a couple of pitches, they rap down and head for the bar. On their way down they pass a guy we had named Luke the Fluke. He was a known shaky character who rumor had it, was responsible for rather unseemly attitudes toward the ownership of private property, other people's private property that is.
So after passing him on their way down, they skirt off into the trees and do a covert ops on his ass. Bottom line is they catch him red-handed with some of their gear they had left at the top of their ropes. Totally pissed, they do a citizens arrest and escort him down the talus below the Zodiac. They turn him into the rangers and let the legal system take it's course.
What I find amazing about this story is that everyone whoever gets their gear jacked moans and groans about what they would do if they ever caught someone stealing their stuff. You know the usual knuckle/sidewalk sandwich combo, along with most any other vile, torturous act they can conjure up.
So here's our hero's, dirtbag, C4 types all, and they leave him totally unscathed. Not a trip in the talus for old Luke, no shiner, they didn't even give him a snuggy to remind him of who's gear he had been jacking.
So, what would you have done given the same situation, had you caught someone red-handed jacking your sh-it?
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jeff, ain't that the truth. Sort of like what Psycho Kenny got into.
Granny, is that you???
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WBraun
climber
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Can't say
I remember that incident all to well, that guy actually jugged their lines and was stealinging their gear. That Luke guy was casing my van once in the Toulmne SAR site also, looking in my windows. We ran him out of there. One day the rangers came around and asked if we have seen him and to be on the lookout for the worm. They caught him somewhere down by bakersfield I heard with his grandmother in the trunk on his way to the Valley to dispose of the body? There had been an all state APB out for him.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
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It is all muddy in my brain, but to the best of my knowledge:
Luke the Fluke, Granny in trunk, aka Luke Skywalker, line jugger, gear thief. All true.
Ken the psycho, psycho, got killed on the Peanut in Eldo when his rope cut at his waist. Cops were in the parking area looking for him in Eldo as he was wanted for killing a guy in the Buttermilk while bouldering. Shallow grave.
Bullwinkle caught a thief in camp 4.... can't remember the guys name, but he got thumped and litterally dragged through the mud all the way to the cops.
Fight at the base of the Zodiac... Yo hammer used on a guys back. They ended up throwing rocks at Ken the Psycho to keep him back. The guy who got hit with the hammer I can't remember his name, but it starts with an F?? Finnegan? Flarety? Fogerty? Anyway, it was all over fixed lines and gear at the top of the lines and bailing partners.
How does any of this tie into me?
Well..... Luke the Fluke lived out by us sheep buggerers with his Granny, and we have given him rides to and from the crags before. Mistake I tell you. I also went with Dick Cilley and Luke to do an FA in Josh (Cilleys masterpiece The Living Conjunction) and Luke was to bring the gear. He had it all sewn into his sport coat..... we did not have nearly enough. All my rack was in camp, hidden.... Luke goes back early to get more gear. When we all get back, all my rack is gone.... all of it. I think Sewellymon had a climbing class with Luke in it and Karl with a K!!! unreal!!!! Anyway, I get a call from the cops in Yosemite... seems that Luke had a ton of gear and I quote "wanted to be the best climber in the world..." In the stash was my entire rack. Got it back!!!! Mark your gear peoples!!!
Next nutcase: Ken the Psycho is hangin out at JT, as we all were.... He has already told a few people that he will kill them if they touch his car..... we might have been a bit tipsy, but we used to pee on the fender and sit on his car to get rise out of him. Anyway... all my rack goes missing again from camp. Weeks pass and I see Psycho Kenny climbing with one of my biners on his rack. Keen eye here boys.... so I confront him... he says some BS about how he found it etc... no way.... so I go back to his camp when he finishes climbing with a biner chain as a weapon..... he freaks and hops in his car and blow outta there for town... the cops are doing the loop so I send JT's finest to chase him down. They nab his ass and he sings like a canary... some guy he is staying with in town has a mountain of gear in his livingroom... all stolen from JT. I get all my rack back. After this is when he allegedly killed some dude in the Buttermilk.
Moral: always mark your gear and always file a report with the Tool-deJour™™™™ I've got two full racks returned to me. this way
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