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Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Original Post - May 13, 2005 - 01:21am PT
Today a car loaned to me containing climbing stuff was stolen from the parking lot of the Hampton Inn Tropicana in Las Vegas.
-1988 Nissan Sentra, Blue, Nv 435FSS plates
-Climbing stuff inside, Fish Maxi-pad with Zebra-pattern strap, in back seat. In the Trunk was a black Lowe Snow -70(?) pack containing the following;
-Four sets of Metoulius four cam units up to orange,
-Two sets of Camalots up to #4.5 (I left the big guys at home)
~twenty five quick draws of various types (including 5 unmarked kong, weird looking wires on rainbow draws)
Approx 50 'biners
Misty Mtn, green, harness
Atc, Gri-gri, with attache and prisoner manufacture locking biners, respectivley, well worn size 39 Myhos, Fish fist-chalkbag (Crackhouse bag and good shoes are, thankfully, in hotel room)
Various slings, gear was on a vintage, mid eighties Misty Mtn, green paisley rack sling; I try not to be a vindictive man, but I am imaginative enough to come up with a detailed hell for the lazy-ass Diss-heads that will end up throwing this stuff in a dumpster;; wish Danno was still here to advise, on recovery options.
All climbing gear except the already mentioned QD's are either stamped JCA or in the case of the cams, "J-bro" is inscribed in the color coded area on the bottom of the cam lobes (so that the letters are in silver metal color. )
Any leads appreciated and will be rewarded.
Everybody else, careful out there!!!!!!!

The car, is my ex-wife's new husband's old car, I can't make sh#t like this up- they were nice to me in a way that can only be described as Karmic, and now ... I'm straining the 10k processor I like to call my brain, to come up with an appropriate way to reward their largess; Help find my stuff and you can borrow it!
Leroy

climber
May 13, 2005 - 02:27am PT
What a nightmare.Sorry to hear it.Give my regards to your ex.
imnotclever

climber
May 13, 2005 - 05:14am PT
Damn that sucks. I hope it is found and returned to you.
Chris W

climber
May 13, 2005 - 06:32am PT
I'll keep an eye out for it here in Colorado. Hope u had renters insurance. For everyone else, renters insurance is well worth it. I have had a couple of bicycles riped off and my renters insurance covered the bike and all upgrades. like 2000.00 plus dollars.
Mike.

climber
May 13, 2005 - 07:13am PT
Really bummed to hear about it, J. I hope it was covered by homeowners or renters insurance. Vegas is the only place I've been ripped off--thankfully, they left the $2K in gear and only took a $600 guitar. You can borrow a rack until July if you need to.

m
Shano

Trad climber
CA
May 13, 2005 - 08:18am PT
that really sucks dude, sorry to hear it.

In SoCal you don't leave ANYTHING in your car. Where I live, the shitbums will break your window out if they spot an aluminum can inside. My cars have been broken into so many times I don't even bother reporting it anymore. Enforcement based on crime statistics is a silly urban myth.

I (mistakenly) thot' that buying a place in a nice bayfront neighborhood would get me away from the dregs; well the news is the shitbags don't go to the barrio to steal, they go to nice neighborhoods. I hope my blather will give y'all pause next time you consider leaving gear (or anything valuable) in the rig.

Please don't let it happen to you
(end public service message)
-s
the Fet

Trad climber
Loomis, CA
May 13, 2005 - 08:27am PT
Makes me want that security system James Bond has, when they break the window and the whole car blows up killing the lowlifes.
WBraun

climber
May 13, 2005 - 08:57am PT
Man Jaybro that really hurts.

Was that all your current free climbing rack in the car or do you have anything left at home as far as good lead rack goes? I hope the car and everything gets recovered. If you get to the Valley and need anything look me up.
Gunkie

climber
May 13, 2005 - 10:34am PT
Makes me want that security system James Bond has, when they break the window and the whole car blows up killing the lowlifes.

I had a couple of surfboards stolen 20 years ago or so in the middle of the night off the top of my car. The punks cut right throught the rack hold downs rather than detatch them... I have to replace the rack too. SO I got pissed...

I bought two delaminated boards [looked good from a short distance] and bungy corded then to the rack and parked in a similar place overnight. A friend and I waited in the bushes with baseball bats. Good for me [and for them] no one even slowed down to look at the boards. I was probably looking serious jail time in the face and only my early twenties bravado blinded me to that. Thank goodness nothing happened.

As for stealing climbing gear, you can only hope that karma takes it's rightful course on these douche bags.
ct

climber
Berkeley, CA
May 13, 2005 - 10:36am PT
I'm really sorry to hear about the stolen gear. I've had plenty of gear stolen on several occasions, and it always hurts...

Most of the hotels in Vegas have security cams covering the parking area. Any luck checking with them?
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
May 13, 2005 - 11:07am PT
Jaybro...sorry to hear about your loss. I hope they run into some seriously bad juju because of it. Thieves blow for sure.

Reminds me of Mo and Mari's gear being jacked out of their rig at ORG, only the theives left the rig, but took their gear, something like 15 years worth of stuff.

SoloBolo

Trad climber
hayward, ca
May 13, 2005 - 11:20am PT
damn,
sorry man, but it was on tropicana, that street (farther from the strip) is a dump.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2005 - 07:45pm PT
Thanks, all, for the support. in a world seemingly gone mad it is re-assuring.
Werner, thanks, I'm cool as far as a rack goes ( once I get home anyway) the "B-list" will rise to the front,
Ct-They ARE looking at the surveilance tapes, so, who knows?
Leroy- Mich, the ex, will appreciate your regards, I think
Mike- we will see what my homeowner's ins, has to say
Shano,- truer words were never said.
Solobolo- guess I'm smarter, about Tropicana, now ( it was employer's choice, this time)
A new rope (forgot to mention that) and I'll be good to go. At least the wide arsenal remains unaffected, ( just have to get back in shape, to get the most out of it.) . I'll look for soft landings bouldering for a while.
The big question; what is the appropriate restitution gift to the ex, et al? I don't want to buy them an old car that will be a hassle, but something that will help them out, as their car did for me?
What an adventure this life is.
thebleeder

climber
chosstown
May 13, 2005 - 09:20pm PT
vegas, baby. vegas.
poser

Trad climber
emporium, pa
May 13, 2005 - 09:49pm PT
About 8 or 9 years ago I was with my mom and dad in the valley. We went for a hike across the north rim of the valley and came back to find that our VW camper had been stolen with everything we had for a cross country trip from PA. Worst part was that it was right at the beginning of the trip and we had to take a greyhound home. Van turned up a few months later in San Francisco and everything that hadn't been stolen smelled like incense from the dirty hippies that stole it. So keep hope -it'll probably turn up. Frigg'n hippies.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2005 - 02:53pm PT
Update
It only gets wierder. Got a call from Vegas PD. They found the car abandonend, last weekend. The impound lot says that though they are not mechanics, the car appears functional (is still on the tires) and the trunk has not been forced. "There is a large blue vinyl thing in the back seat."-sounds like a Fish maxi-pad™ to me! I will try to be optimistic about the trunk contents. Next week my emmisaries will know.
-Still, watch out for used cams that have 'JCA' or 'J-bro' scratched engraved on them!
scuffy b

climber
S Cruz
Oct 28, 2005 - 05:30pm PT
Congratulations, I hope.
sm
WoodyS

Trad climber
Riverside
Oct 28, 2005 - 06:33pm PT
I drive a silver Mini-Cooper S with eyes painted on the hood. Anyone takes that baby, the cops will have it within fifteen minutes. When in Vegas, I dump the gear in the room. That way I can fondle it during the night.
mark miller

Social climber
Reno
Oct 28, 2005 - 07:37pm PT
Good luck Jay.
rja

Trad climber
somewhere between LA and Baja
Oct 29, 2005 - 10:15am PT
check kelly's blue book. add the low and high values (private party/retail) and divide by 2. that'll give you a good place to start as far as $$$ are concerned. write 'em a check and make sure they think it's fair. that's good karma repaid, isn't it?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
Oct 29, 2005 - 12:00pm PT
Jaybro - hope you end up getting most if not all of your stuff back.
That sounds like a crazy dream come true! Maybe it was just taken for a joyride?

BTW, I am amazed at the number of vehicles sporting climbing stickers;
I really can't think of a better way to attract the attention of thieves!
Obviously your best bet is to avoid having any climbing related stuff visible.
Let them seek riper looking targets. Where this is unavoidable, I strongly
suggest making the vehicle inoperable. Many times the car will be stolen first,
as it only takes 30 seconds (or even less) for them to enter the vehicle and drive off
to a quiet location to pick through the goods at their leisure.

When I have to leave my car full of visible stuff unattended, it only takes a few
seconds for me to pop the hood and remove the rotor, and replace the rotor cap
so it looks normal––in the extremely unlikely event the would-be thieves
decide to "trouble-shoot" the no-start condition. They'll just go to the next car
if the screwdrivered ignition doesn't start the engine immediately.
Other tricks are removing the coil wire––although that's pretty well known,
and I've heard that some thieves will have a spare and actually check for that.
The main fusible link works nicely as well.

Where I work, there has been a rash of cars getting broken into, and the scumbag(s)
are simply smashing the main door windows to get in. I have resorted to removing
everything of value from my car, and I leave the empty glove-box wide open,
and leave both doors unlocked, and will roll both windows down several inches
if I know it's not going to rain. A couple weeks ago a car right next to mine had
its window smashed. I don't know whether they bothered checking my car.
Personally, I hoped they did and wasted their time.

We talked about setting up a "bait car" and sitting in some folding chairs
with baseball bats and drinking beers to while the time away.
The baseball bats would only be used (as a deterrent) if the scumbag(s) had a weapon.
The plan would be to simply "detain" until police arrive. Of course, it's funny
how things can turn out when a felony suspect decides he doesn't want to play along...
Dapper Dan

climber
The OC
Oct 29, 2005 - 12:13pm PT
they didn't steal your gear ? they must have been fvckin boulderers....
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
Oct 29, 2005 - 12:36pm PT
––actually, they were probably smoking "boulders", not climbing them...

Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 12:55pm PT
S till waiting on the details, the one thing I know they didn't steal was the bouldering pad, maybe they were dumb boulderers, wanted more squish, didn't notice the Fish™ stamp of quality;alls I know, is that my 49 yr old ankles are jonseing the faux leopard bulls-eye.
-maybe they just stole the cams! Rogue Trads, or trads gone bad!

The 1/2 way between hi & low bluebook is kinda what i settled on,- not much $ in this case.

It will get wierder before it's over. I will report.

No climbing bumper stickers BTW, just like all the cars I've owned.
LEB

climber
Glen Gardner
Oct 29, 2005 - 05:10pm PT
Jaybro,

I am truly sorry you had this experience. Whoever took your stuff is definitely class A scumbag material. It is such a sense of violation when one is the victim of theft. A cowardly and bottom-feeder crime.

About a year and a half ago, I had my handbag stolen from the place where I work. I left it unattended for a brief period. It was packed with my personal effects including a very expensive palm pilot replete with many, many extras, each of which was also rather pricey in its own right. My handbag was, as luck would have it, a brand new microfiber purse/briefcase combo which I had just purchased for more than a little change and it had a few items in it which are not easily replaced. Do date I have not found replacements for some of the misc items in there and it took a long time and great amount of bother to get new stuff - hair brush, makeup, keys, nail clippers, bandana, maps, etc.

It has been 18 months now and I am still angry at the scumbag(s) who took it. I have very negative feelings toward this individual(s) still to date. Whenever, I pass a window which leads out to the expansive roofs of the building which houses my office, I wonder - "could it be out there?" In short, I have not exactly gotten over it although I am not obsessed, either. I replaced everything and moved on but I still now and then think about it.

My sympathy to you and whatever emotional support I can offer via this posting. They are bottom feeders, indeed. Hope your stuff gets back to you
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Oct 29, 2005 - 05:22pm PT
I hope that all your gear is still in the car, and they had absolutley no use for the stuff, just wanted to take the car.....
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 05:34pm PT
Thanks LEB, and all
I've pretty much let it go by now. Though it's wierd to be using reserve gear from twenty years ago (except for wide pro). I posted again because I thought it was humorus/ironic to be maybe, retrieving that stuff.
I feel for that pang of violation you alluded to, had a similar thing happen with a renter a year ago. This Vegas thing was not like that, though. I locked up the old funky rig and somebody apparently got to it right off. I kinda expected that they would just drive it and abandon it,( as it appears they did -not worth stripping. My bad luck the contents and situation around it.

Anything I retrieve will be a bonus at this point, but you're right, they are bottom feeders, though, catfish are people too.
LEB

climber
Glen Gardner
Oct 29, 2005 - 06:01pm PT
Jaybro,

Yes, it is true - it is an injustice to the catfish to compare them. I like catfish. I remember a police commissioner or some such person was being interviewed once and he commented (about some criminal) "Calling these people rats is to do a disservice to the rodents." I though that was so funny. Did you have to repurchase all your gear all over again? How dreadful!

I am ashamed to tell you this, but I have some very unspiritual sentiments concerning the person(s) who have stolen from me. I would like to tell you that it "ain't so" and that I am above all that stuff ....but, sadly such is very much NOT the case. I must confess to feeling otherwise although it is not very strong sentiments at this point.

Lois
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2005 - 07:22pm PT
Yeah, you're right, that was harsh on the catfish. I think my point was that it's just unproductive to retain anger against whoever the lowlife crackhead was who decided it was easier to jimmie a car with a screwdriver than pay for the bus.

I make no excuse for their behavior.

I don't know the answer, but I think The thing To Do ( yeah, I am very much a bleeding heart Liberal™) is to figure out what we can do to make this and other sorts of crime less attractive.

Getting medevil on their butt will make them more ruthless and I will feel worse in the long run.

I really don't know the answer to this, but I think any of us has bigger things going on that are more important to deal with than to hold on to this kind of stuff too long. This is on the level of paying Taxes. Okay, worse than that, but not as bad as it could be. we all know peoplee who died needlessly, or had,'unfair' medical complications.

Three applicable Cliches;
1)There but for the grace of --- go, I.
2)An eye for an eye leaves us all blind.
3) Since my house burned down I have a better view of the mountain.
WBraun

climber
Oct 29, 2005 - 07:27pm PT
I didn't do it man :-)

Have ya got the car yet?
Watusi

Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Oct 29, 2005 - 07:27pm PT
Sh*t Jay that SUCKS!! I'll keep an eye out here in Josh...I hope they rot in HELL!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2005 - 03:15pm PT
The way I look at it, the fact that THEY (whoever, they are), did it, implies that they ARE in hell, whether they know it or not.
WBraun

climber
Oct 30, 2005 - 07:56pm PT
The club is a joke man I can defeat it as fast as i can hacksaw thru your steering wheel, under a minute easily.

1) Disable your rig by taking your high voltage primary spark plug wire with you.

2) Use the club that goes on the brake pedal.

yo

climber
NOT Fresno
Oct 30, 2005 - 07:59pm PT
Yeah, theft is a bitch psychologically. Bunch of stuff (wallet, stereo, gear) got stolen out of my Cruiser in Utah, irony of ironies. They left the car, thankfully, but that was far and away the angriest I've ever been.


Which ones the primary spark plug, W? What if I know jack about cars?
Landgolier

climber
the flatness
Oct 30, 2005 - 08:01pm PT
My old high school shop teacher installed an ignition cutoff switch in an unused slot meant for optional fog lights. Hell of a trick, there was no way of knowing it was there.

The club is pretty easy to defeat if you're trying to steal one car in particular, but it is a pretty good deterrent if you just want to make yours harder to jack than the next one down the street. Werner's got the ticket if you need to leave it somewhere remote, though.
WBraun

climber
Oct 30, 2005 - 08:05pm PT
Just find your ignition fuse and pull that and take it with you. Most comon worms on the street won't go thru the trouble of cranking your engine over and over. They don't carry fuses either.

You can also pull the ignition relay too you don't need to install any switches. He he he just wait till you come runing out with that baseball bat on that stupid worm.
Watusi

Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Oct 30, 2005 - 08:06pm PT
Only one end for a friggin' gear thief...
yo

climber
NOT Fresno
Oct 30, 2005 - 08:09pm PT
Werd, Mike.

I'll just start yanking wires next time, eh, Werner? I just remembered, when I was on the Trip with Geoff this summer I was scoping my truck down in the Meadow. Red with black shell, sorta unique. But the last day it was gone! I threw a f*#king conniption up there and Geoff goes, "Dude, there was another red/black truck a hundred meters up the road." Mine was just behind the trees. haha
BeBe

Sport climber
Phoenix
Oct 31, 2005 - 12:13pm PT
Gear thieves suck.
Instant Karma will get them.
AKutzer

Trad climber
From Texas to Tahoe
Oct 31, 2005 - 04:53pm PT
To cops (and anyone else), climbing stickers = pot inside!

Sorry for your loss, Jaybro.
Who'd steal climbing gear?
I don't need the bad karma that accompanies that sort of theft!

If you need to borrow a rack or rope, let me know - I live in South Lake Tahoe.

Keep us updated on the possible recovery of some of it!

For what it's worth, I had a crappy weekend, too -
I fell asleep driving back to Tahoe from Bishop a few miles North of Lee Vining. Car bounces off right side of road (cliff going up) and "180's" across the highway (luckily no oncoming traffic) and bashes into a barricade - which held, keeping me and the car from a 200 ft plus fall down a cliff.
Car's totalled, but I'm fine. Whew!

Aaron

CAMNOTCLIMB

Trad climber
novato ca
Nov 1, 2005 - 07:00am PT
Jaybro,

It is time to create the Gear Thief size of Hardman,s rat catcher.

Good luck on on all the crap that follows a theft.

Brian
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 1, 2005 - 07:26am PT
A brief trip down memory lane. A story of missed oppotunities and moral fiber. Russ or any other old dude who was around at the time please feel free to correct any errors.

Back in the early 80s, some friends were fixing on a route on the right side El Cap. After hauling their bags up a couple of pitches, they rap down and head for the bar. On their way down they pass a guy we had named Luke the Fluke. He was a known shaky character who rumor had it, was responsible for rather unseemly attitudes toward the ownership of private property, other people's private property that is.

So after passing him on their way down, they skirt off into the trees and do a covert ops on his ass. Bottom line is they catch him red-handed with some of their gear they had left at the top of their ropes. Totally pissed, they do a citizens arrest and escort him down the talus below the Zodiac. They turn him into the rangers and let the legal system take it's course.

What I find amazing about this story is that everyone whoever gets their gear jacked moans and groans about what they would do if they ever caught someone stealing their stuff. You know the usual knuckle/sidewalk sandwich combo, along with most any other vile, torturous act they can conjure up.

So here's our hero's, dirtbag, C4 types all, and they leave him totally unscathed. Not a trip in the talus for old Luke, no shiner, they didn't even give him a snuggy to remind him of who's gear he had been jacking.

So, what would you have done given the same situation, had you caught someone red-handed jacking your sh-it?

can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 1, 2005 - 08:43am PT
Jeff, ain't that the truth. Sort of like what Psycho Kenny got into.

Granny, is that you???
WBraun

climber
Nov 1, 2005 - 08:52am PT
Can't say

I remember that incident all to well, that guy actually jugged their lines and was stealinging their gear. That Luke guy was casing my van once in the Toulmne SAR site also, looking in my windows. We ran him out of there. One day the rangers came around and asked if we have seen him and to be on the lookout for the worm. They caught him somewhere down by bakersfield I heard with his grandmother in the trunk on his way to the Valley to dispose of the body? There had been an all state APB out for him.
Russ Walling

Social climber
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
Nov 1, 2005 - 09:58am PT
It is all muddy in my brain, but to the best of my knowledge:

Luke the Fluke, Granny in trunk, aka Luke Skywalker, line jugger, gear thief. All true.

Ken the psycho, psycho, got killed on the Peanut in Eldo when his rope cut at his waist. Cops were in the parking area looking for him in Eldo as he was wanted for killing a guy in the Buttermilk while bouldering. Shallow grave.

Bullwinkle caught a thief in camp 4.... can't remember the guys name, but he got thumped and litterally dragged through the mud all the way to the cops.

Fight at the base of the Zodiac... Yo hammer used on a guys back. They ended up throwing rocks at Ken the Psycho to keep him back. The guy who got hit with the hammer I can't remember his name, but it starts with an F?? Finnegan? Flarety? Fogerty? Anyway, it was all over fixed lines and gear at the top of the lines and bailing partners.

How does any of this tie into me?

Well..... Luke the Fluke lived out by us sheep buggerers with his Granny, and we have given him rides to and from the crags before. Mistake I tell you. I also went with Dick Cilley and Luke to do an FA in Josh (Cilleys masterpiece The Living Conjunction) and Luke was to bring the gear. He had it all sewn into his sport coat..... we did not have nearly enough. All my rack was in camp, hidden.... Luke goes back early to get more gear. When we all get back, all my rack is gone.... all of it. I think Sewellymon had a climbing class with Luke in it and Karl with a K!!! unreal!!!! Anyway, I get a call from the cops in Yosemite... seems that Luke had a ton of gear and I quote "wanted to be the best climber in the world..." In the stash was my entire rack. Got it back!!!! Mark your gear peoples!!!

Next nutcase: Ken the Psycho is hangin out at JT, as we all were.... He has already told a few people that he will kill them if they touch his car..... we might have been a bit tipsy, but we used to pee on the fender and sit on his car to get rise out of him. Anyway... all my rack goes missing again from camp. Weeks pass and I see Psycho Kenny climbing with one of my biners on his rack. Keen eye here boys.... so I confront him... he says some BS about how he found it etc... no way.... so I go back to his camp when he finishes climbing with a biner chain as a weapon..... he freaks and hops in his car and blow outta there for town... the cops are doing the loop so I send JT's finest to chase him down. They nab his ass and he sings like a canary... some guy he is staying with in town has a mountain of gear in his livingroom... all stolen from JT. I get all my rack back. After this is when he allegedly killed some dude in the Buttermilk.

Moral: always mark your gear and always file a report with the Tool-deJour™™™™ I've got two full racks returned to me. this way
loads

Trad climber
Phoenix AZ.
Nov 1, 2005 - 11:08am PT
This one's a little strange...
At J.T. 15 years ago or so I was talking with my friend DE ...I had just finished climbing for the day and was sorting gear when he anounced to me that some of my stuff looked a little familiar.
Knowing I would never steal from him asked me where said stuff came from...I told him I had seen an add for a gear sale on a message board at my local REI in Orange County and bought it from a guy in Costa Mesa Ca.....Well I guess I inadvertently busted this guy because DE and Todd being very suspicious also answered the add and busted this guy with tons of stolen gear.
Seems as though he had broken into Todds house in JT and had gear and books along with stuff that belonged to DE....
DE just recently informed me it was known as the Famous Louie Case.....Glad I could help guys........
the Fet

Trad climber
Loomis, CA
Nov 1, 2005 - 11:40am PT
Aaron, not the new Tacoma? Time to look for a new one that's not black I suppose.

I always wanted to set my car up with the "mission impossible" setup. Someone breaks in and a cloud of gas is released, then the tape deck starts and states "you have been contaminated with a deadly nerve gas, your insides will turn to mush and you will die a painful, horrifying death unless you turn yourself into the police and have them contact me for the antidote" Of course the gas would be inert, but it would be fun to make them crap their pants.

My dad said they used to solder razor blades to the back of their radios so if someone tried to pull it out they'd leave their fingertips on the floorboard and look like the guy in Road Warrior who tried to catch the razor boomerang.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 1, 2005 - 01:27pm PT
Mind you this is just a rumor I heard over a campfire from an aquaintance of a friend's partner,but....



It seems that there had been a series of brazen gear thefts that also seemed to happen just before a rise in both lifestyle and climbing ambitions in a certain shady dirtbag who had suddenly moved from rehearsed sport climbs to unrehearsed fiascos on moderate trad routes.

Said fiascos were also occasioned by copious gear abandonment some of which looked very familiar to another climber upon bootyment.

Long story greatly shortened;

Our dirtbag made his final appearance in the climbing world in Accidents in North American Mountaineering.

Gear failure? Possible rockfall. Inconclusive yada yada.

Using someone else's gear is always bad. Geez you never know WHAT they've done with it.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 1, 2005 - 01:28pm PT
By the way Russ, I already have the TM on "bootyment".
Russ Walling

Social climber
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
Nov 1, 2005 - 01:50pm PT
I still get Tool-duJour™™™™ though, right??
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 1, 2005 - 02:03pm PT
You bet, plus we're sharing several like, "Milking the nOObs".
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 1, 2005 - 02:43pm PT
Piton Ron,
I don't think your story is anything to be proud of. Last I checked thievery is not a capital offense. Don't forget, fattrad and Jody read these postings.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 1, 2005 - 03:58pm PT
Gary I don't think your mockery of Socrates is anything to be proud of but that is something that you ACTUALLY DID.



Why should I be proud of hearing a rumor?
LEB

climber
Glen Gardner
Nov 1, 2005 - 04:15pm PT
Akutzer,

Glad you are OK! That was certainly close. Everytime I go up or down a mountain road, I always think "I wonder if those barracades on the side do any good." They always look so flimsy. I guess, however, they *do* perform as they are intended.

It is so easy to fall asleep. Sometimes when I am very tired or sleepy, I sing to stay awake - luckily no one hears me.

Lois
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2005 - 04:39pm PT
Ak-the grade going up to the Mono lake overlook (ontop of which KTHX™ returns)? Man!

Camnot-i'm pictu-ing a trailer with a dead human logo and oversize jumper cables reaching out to the tow car.

LEB how embarassing would it be to hear a recording of all we, say, sing, exclaim or admonish when we're in our car alone?

LEB

climber
Glen Gardner
Nov 1, 2005 - 05:13pm PT
Jaybro,

Indeed, you are quite correct. It would be most distressing. Sometimes I find that we "think out loud" when driving alone. We do say some strange things when driving alone. It is a great time to think and work things out esp on long drives along the interstate which don't require much cocncentration.

It is also a great time to listen to satillite radio. I have become quite emamoured of it. It seems like quite a bit a value for not all that much money
WBraun

climber
Nov 1, 2005 - 05:31pm PT
I agree LEB I love driving especially long distances, you can think forever in the car while driving.

Then when I get to Los Angeles I like to think about all the different ways to torture the guy that just cut me off. :-)
LEB

climber
Glen Gardner
Nov 1, 2005 - 05:43pm PT
Werner,

Cutting me off does not esp bother me providing that they are moving fast enough such that I don't risk rear-ending them. It is a minor annoyance. What is a *major* annoyance to me is when you are in a tight spot because you are in heavy traffic and lane you are in ending thus requiring that you merge left (or right). Then, while you are trying to merge, the car(s) behind you in that lane you need to enter speed up so as to not allow you in. How totally piggish! They can see perfectly well that you need to move over because the lane is ending.

I don't know how commonly this phenomenon occurs is in other states but it is an everyday event in NY and NJ. I have heard that other areas of the country are not as obnoxious when it comes to driving. The corollary to offense is when you are signalling need to merge into the middle lane (from the right) and someone from the left lane comes over to prevent you from doing so.
426

Sport climber
Screamersville, VA
Nov 2, 2005 - 07:18am PT
During the rash of incidents in which a car thief was jackin by kiping the keys out of climber's packs ...(this still happenin?)

My friend Big Lar was soloing TT, he was on the ledge on P1, noodlin the anchor. He leaned back to see the pirate rifle through his pack. Lar yells at the guy, who glances up and starts runnin' down the talus.


Big Lar starts hooking up his rap device and screams, "I'll be down there BEFORE YOU!"


The guy, without breaking stride, tosses Lar's keys into the talus. It took Lar like 3 hours to find his keys...


Fish: "Tool-Du-Jour™"- that's a keeper.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
Nov 2, 2005 - 07:30am PT
Werner –– if you don't mind my asking...

Why in God's name are you going to LA?
WBraun

climber
Nov 2, 2005 - 07:53am PT
Hardman

Merry's mom lives in LA
Shack

Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
Nov 2, 2005 - 08:46am PT
"Then when I get to Los Angeles I like to think about all the different ways to torture the guy that just cut me off. :-)"

If you can't think of anything Werner, I've got lots of ideas,
and thinking of new ones everyday.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
Nov 2, 2005 - 08:54am PT
OK Werner –– you had me worried there for a sec.
Leroy

climber
Nov 9, 2005 - 11:56am PT
Kenny was a psycho but Luke was in another League.Fish and I used to scratch Kennys prize Vdub with the rivets of our Levis while looking him in the eye.Kenny wouldnt even think of saying anything.But if u looked in Lukes eyes ,u knew he´d kill u.Still I funked with him some.I´ve seen him since the Granny incident.So I cant help but wonder if its true.I kept walkin though he saluted me by name.Any sitings?
Russ Walling

Social climber
NOT FOR LOAN™ CC3
Nov 9, 2005 - 12:05pm PT
True stories from the Leroy. No sitings of Luke. Maybe he is out or escaped? Cured? hmmmm... Bet he would kill ya though....
Leroy

climber
Nov 9, 2005 - 12:07pm PT
Just did a search on Luke.Only found 1 entry,but it was the Obit of his Granny and he was charged with her murder.
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Nov 10, 2005 - 04:31pm PT
jaybro-

so, what, if anything, was still in the trunk?
WBraun

climber
Nov 10, 2005 - 05:21pm PT
The guy who stole the car .........
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2005 - 07:19pm PT
So far just red tape, but I'll let ya know.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 10, 2005 - 07:35pm PT
Just a shot in the dark, but have anyone of ya'll ever wound up with gear on your rack with M/M stamped on it?

Some friends had 15 years of accumulated gear ripped off from their rig at the middle ORG parking lot many years back and, well, ya just never know.


Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Jaybro! Having just read this thread about your car being jacked in Las Vegas, I find myself curious. I know it's been 7 years, but was your climbing gear safe in the recovered car's trunk----or not?

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Edited - i don't want to know nothing

Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/312325/Does-anyone-remember-a-climber-named-Luke-Stong
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