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seamus mcshane
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Oct 27, 2008 - 01:31pm PT
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Great idea.
Don't do it.
Dream tick lists should be left to dreams.
Besides, backlash is inevitable from haters, Mick Ryan had to leave the States. Too many death threats. 8)
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Oct 27, 2008 - 01:58pm PT
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The Ourom route on sphinx is down to three pitches nowadays with longer ropes...
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the museum
Trad climber
Rapid City, SD
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:01pm PT
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Aye TK, but the Durrance is ALREADY destroyed - it's covered with human grease and rubber. Let the hordes continue to abuse the one route. !!!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:13pm PT
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Karl Wrote: " Just put in 110 routes and advertise "10% extra free bonus climbs"
Why lock into the standard number?"
I don't know if you should do it or not, but I think Karl's insight as to the number is a great idea.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:15pm PT
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Indian Creek?
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Otto, NC
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:16pm PT
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Leave the damn Creek alone!
If Deto basalt can get worn out, imagine Wingate in 100 years.
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:17pm PT
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I like Tami's idea better, how about not having a round #, like 107?
Still, there could be death threats...
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Churningindawake
Sport climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:26pm PT
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Oregon:
The West Face Variation, or Monkey Space, are more classic than the Pioneer Route on Monkey Face.
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Domingo
Trad climber
El Portal, CA
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:33pm PT
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I feel like a few sport lines from the Red or the New should go in here... but maybe these areas aren't old enough to be classic yet.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:34pm PT
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Good point museum...stick with the Durrance...
Glad it's in agreement that there is nothing classic in MT...
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apogee
climber
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Oct 27, 2008 - 02:42pm PT
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The widely varying and humorous opinions posted here thusfar makes a good rationale for NOT creating such a list...
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Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
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Oct 27, 2008 - 03:03pm PT
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My Vote: Do it !
Good idea. Entertaining. Why knott ? Overcrowding... too late.
And, except for the start, Whodunit really isn't much to write home about.
Oh, like Nef' said below, Royal Arches is a pleasant hike, but there is almost no
actual climbing to enjoy.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Oct 27, 2008 - 03:04pm PT
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Royal Arches? Really? Even East Butt of EC is debatable... But Royal Arches is mostly 3rd class scrambling. Even when there is climbing, it's not terribly interesting - low angle .6 crack climbing. There's really only one good pitch on the thing, which is the chimney start. I guess there's a kinda decent one up high.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Oct 27, 2008 - 04:45pm PT
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criteria for selection first, then you'll get the list.
most of the first batch seem to be long routes.
bias? or criteria?
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Otto, NC
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Oct 27, 2008 - 04:57pm PT
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Maybe the new Yosemite Free Climbs Supertopo book should only include the Royal Arches...this could really concentrate traffic where it belongs.
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HJ
climber
Bozeman, Montana
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Oct 27, 2008 - 05:25pm PT
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Best of books only cause problems as already mentioned, over-crowding, ego-aggarandizement, etc. What is really needed is 50 epic grovels...
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craig mo
Trad climber
L.A. Ca.
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Oct 27, 2008 - 08:26pm PT
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100 classic climbing locations.
some times its the place thats classic.
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TC
Social climber
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Oct 27, 2008 - 09:26pm PT
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Chris, it's good to see that you will include
High Sierra Clyde Minaret Southeast Face
It's been a long time coming.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Oct 27, 2008 - 10:06pm PT
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Although not a Supertopo book....Dick DuMais has already done such a book;..called Great American Rock Climbs....which has probably 2/3 of your list, and his whole list is excellent;...sure ;...you can do the "topo" thing is the "super" way;...but it would be recycled, regurgitated, resurfaced, copycat, yesterday's papers, yawn, over-done, re-take, rematch, floatsome, jetsome, wank, nOOb, no-where, nohow, nobody, see-ya.......(I'm sure it would be an awesome book, but it HAS already sort of been done;.........although The DuMais really can't be taken too seriously for it does NOT have The Vampire on Tahquitz....AND it has Joshua Tree and everyone knows that there aren't ANY * routes at Joshua Tree......maybe it IS time to do it up correctly.......................)
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