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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 27, 2013 - 09:21am PT
gotta love this lifestyle,

You mean the lifestyle that spends time reading and posting this stuff?
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 27, 2013 - 10:03am PT
William Seward Burroughs II



While his fiction above is somehow being held up as an example of American culture, it is fiction, are we to go sifting through American literature to find more horrible text? I am sure we can find plenty. Yet it is far more creative and thought provoking than anything that came from Fox news. Oh and William also said these things, just to give you an idea of who wrote it...

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.


The face of evil is always the face of total need.


How I hate those who are dedicated to producing conformity.


After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say 'I want to see the manager.'


Artists to my mind are the real architects of change, and not the political legislators who implement change after the fact.


A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.


Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing.


Every man has inside himself a parasitic being who is acting not at all to his advantage.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jun 27, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
They did take the easy way out, and I'm ok with that, considering the composition of the court. I'm looking forward to reading the DOMA decision: it sounds like there is some good foundational language for future challenges to gay marriage bans.

Unfortunately, they took an easy way out there, too, by resting their reasoning, essentially, on federalism. The section of DOMA they invalidated was that preventing federal recognition of marital status if the couple in question was not heterosexual. The decision still does not require one state to accept the marital laws of another, nor does it do anything to require, or even encourage, states to change their marital laws. While the practical effects of yesterday's rulings certainly help the cause of gay marriage, they don't do anything to resolve any of the legal issues. What the court giveth, the court may still taketh away without violating stare decisis.

Incidentally, this Evangelical Christian agrees with rSin's statement that "you really have to have a VERY low opinion of marriage to begin with in order to feel its threatened as an institution by allowed homosexuals unions the protection of person and property it extends[.]" I always bristle when I hear people purporting to speak in the name of Christ labeling gay marriage or "the homosexual agenda" [whatever that is] as the greatest threat to marriage. The greatest threat to marriage remains infidelity and divorce, and on that count, nominal Christians do no better than anyone else.

It's hard to see with logs in our eyes.

John
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jun 27, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
"the homosexual agenda" [whatever that is]

As far as I've ever been able to tell, the homosexual agenda is to live a normal happy life with the same rights and responsibilities as anyone else.

Like you John, I feel that my own marriage is unchanged from what it was three days ago. It was strong and meaningful then, and will remain so regardless of who marries whom in the future. Unless we mess it up ourselves. The guy across the street marrying his boyfriend changes nothing for us.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 27, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
here is the whole thing if you want it>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVJKA88R1rk
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jun 27, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
Burroughs was entertaining in a Green Day is punk rock culture sort of way.

He could always rely on the family typewriter manufacturing fortune to get out of a jam or 2, and he did.

If what he writes makes you go wow, you should understand it's the condescending musings of a mid western rich kid trying too hard to be cool.

Go read Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jun 27, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
he had a great cameo in cowboy junkie

regarding "agenda"


the only people who couch it that way are serial abusers whos "traditional lifestyle" involves hurting other people while feeling themselves righteous for doing so...

people whos own lives are so worthless that the behavior of others can ruin what little they have

we should pity them

and we will,

right after we do the lords work

take away their guns
and their children
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 1, 2013 - 11:17am PT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 1, 2013 - 11:20am PT
Gays ruined my sex life!


Oh, wait, that was just marriage.


Carry on, gays!


Ruin your sex life too!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 19, 2013 - 01:34pm PT

And today my state of New Mexico proudly joins other states in allowing same sex marriage !

The New Mexico Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage in the state Thursday, declaring in a ruling that it is unconstitutional to deny a marriage license to gay and lesbian couples.

New Mexico joins 16 states and the District of Columbia in allowing gay marriage.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 19, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
And today my state of New Mexico proudly joins other states in allowing same sex marriage !

Norton, it's pretty strange to say that the state of New Mexico "proudly" did anything, other than be subject to the fiat of its supreme court.
Are all political entities "proud" when their supreme court issues a ruling?
Was the US proud after the Citizens United decision?

Just man up and say the unelected judges made a controversial ruling that most libs support and most conservative oppose.
It's that simple, there's no "pride" involved at all, unless it's of the "gay pride" variety.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Congratulations New Mexico on shedding the ancient paranoia. Its a new dawn and the forces of repression ^^^^ like the person who posted above me, don't like it when people they repress gain civil rights.

They never did. They fought a war to prevent it.

DMT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 19, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
ok blah blah,

you are correct that a non human entity, a state, cannot express emotion like pride

how clever and proper of you to correct me on that

let me rephrase, I myself and only I, am damn proud that a UNANIMOUS state Supreme Court
ruled in favor of same sex marriage

there, feel better now?

christ
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
The guy across the street marrying his boyfriend changes nothing for us.

The wife is constantly hoping some of 'them' will move in across the street.
Then, in one fell swoop, we'll be rid of some annoying judgemental religious
pricks* and our property value will likely go up with some tasteful remodeling.
Oh, yeah, and maybe we'll even get invited to some good parties.


*Let the record show, yer honour, that we've non-judgemental and very
pleasant religious types on either side one set of which we actually do
consort with and not just because the wife happens to enjoy a nice pumpkin ale.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 19, 2013 - 05:04pm PT

let me rephrase, I myself and only I, am damn proud that a UNANIMOUS state Supreme Court
ruled in favor of same sex marriage

there, feel better now?

Yes, here's why.
The important point is that those of you who depend on state or federal supreme courts for your damned "rights" to sodomy or whatever else you want to do better be prepared to suck plenty of lemons when the courts don't go your way, which will be something like half the time. (Actually you'll probably get your sodomy and drugs and whatever else more than half the time, as that's the way the country seems to be moving--isn't it great? Our founders would be so prod.!)

And actually I don't have any huge problem with "gay marriage" but I do wonder about a theory of constitutional interpretation that finds that somehow people have a "right" to engage in behavior that was punishable by death when the constitution that they are "interpreting" was enacted.
However, that debate seems to be mostly over.
The constitution-means-whatever-the-hell-we-say-it-means school seems to have won the day.



dirtbag

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Norton, I'm proud of your state for adopting such an enlightened constitution. The people and their elected representatives did a very good thing.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
I am blahblah. The court ruled to strengthen the 2nd amendment and lots of other votes for which I don't care. I'm not whining about it. I'm talking about a we the people effort to change the 2nd amendment. Your problem is you project the argument and then knock your own dominoes down. Big deal.

At least this court, THIS ONE, with Scalia and other fundamentalists on it ruled for basic unarguable civil rights and its only those in favor of repression that don't like it. Do THEY want to change the constitution?

No. Because that will bite them in the ass. So whine all you want about unelected judges making decisions you don't like. Guess what... THAT IS WHY THEY ARE UNELECTED.

Sheesh.

Take a civics class dude.

DMT

ps. now you're playing original intent from a document that was written by slaveholders, got it.
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