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kev
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2008 - 05:30pm PT
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Yo Mike,
You don't even know me. My trash???? Has it ever occurred to you that other people climb that rock, both before us and after us? Hmmm the bivy is shared by how many people? Anyhow perhaps you should think before you speak - on that one. I pick up way to much of other peoples sh#t and it's rather annoying to hear this kinda crap from someone who doesn't know me....I guess I get faulted because I didn't scour the climb for other peoples sh#t????
That said I can't argue with you about bones. Yes we left him there for Halloween, maybe we'll put Rudolph up there around xmas....
kev
Oh yeah and on the butts, well unless the pack or two of butts in my pocket at the top was a hallucination nope not mine
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drc
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 27, 2008 - 05:38pm PT
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Mike,
I know kevs faults and they are many;)
Wantonly littering however is not one of them. I have seen him dump pocketfulls of his own and others cig butts out in the trash after coming down off climbs.
A pile of 'bones' at the base or on the ledge is kinda funny IMO.
Way funnier than the piles of unburied sh#t and TP at the base of many a popular climb.
cheers
V.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Oct 27, 2008 - 06:17pm PT
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I'm with Mike, leavin Bones on the route is ghey. Funny isnt what comes to mind when it comes down to packing out someone elses bulky and awkward trash. The Tower is the second most popular wall in the valley and is summited nearly everyday. Imagine if every party left their novelty item on the route and tore apart the summit bush for a campfire? Think impact and leave the holiday toys at home. Plus wasn't your climb in September? Little early for holloween dontcha think?
Now if you had climbed Nightmare on California Street, bones might have been fitting. Not trying to be a hater, I'm glad for your sucessful first wall, and I hope you climb many more. Just get over the n00by toy fetish and leave the route cleaner then you found it!
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Oct 27, 2008 - 11:59pm PT
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Climbing thread bump
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kev
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2008 - 11:44am PT
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Mike,
The bones thing is a liget debate. The idea came from the giant plastic spider that was in a crack over on the open books this year or last. I'll ponder this a bit.
Sorry if I got a little pissed. And I do understand being mad about trash - I've hauled out plenty of other peoples crap as well. I took offense to the suggestion that I left a bunch of crap there (again other than bones)....Anyhow I think we're square on it all now.
kev
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Offset
climber
seattle
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Oct 28, 2008 - 12:13pm PT
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GET A ROOM you two...
kidding...
nice send and TR... good to see some climbing here
...and i'll take trash arguments over political arguments on the taco....
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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Oct 28, 2008 - 01:42pm PT
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I dunno, I thought bones was charming.
At first glance, it seems inconsistent that if you climb harder than most you're entitled to leave inflatable sheep and other toys and its cool, and if you're new to the walls it's not. But then when thinking about it in terms of traffic and impact, the pack-it-in-pack-it-out maxim is a good one.
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
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Sep 27, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
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Gotta love Kev. Bump. I've always wanted to leave pieces of a treasure map at each belay that the next climber can put together and find something cool after they top out.
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msiddens
Trad climber
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Sep 27, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
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Ha cool old TR BUMP
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 28, 2014 - 01:28am PT
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Haha! Loved this TR the first time around.
FYI, Kev is a trash-Nazi. He hates it and always insists we police the grounds, so don't even go there with him (or me).
As for Bones? Lighten up! It was a cool stunt. Stuff like that gets dealt with, but it adds 'character' to certain climbs. It ain't really garbage.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Sep 28, 2014 - 05:36am PT
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good report kev,
hey mucci how's married life?
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
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Halloween bump for Bones!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 31, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
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I'll tell you what's scary. Trying to change headlamp batteries in the blackness, under the final roof, knowing that any mistake meant a night in the harnesses for me and my partner.
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
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Oct 31, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
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I once led the last pitch into Dano Ledge at dusk and used my iPhone flash as a headlamp rather than call down for my actual headlamp.
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