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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 10, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
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"Well, I am. I find it more difficult to trust people I have a harder time understanding, I find it easier blame people who are different from me, I make a host of assumptions and generalizations about someone based on nothing more than the color of their skin, the fit of their clothes, the manner of their speech, and I do it every day. I fight it, I attempt to consciously recognize and compensate for my own bias, I try not to be a racist, a classist, an elitist, but I often fail. Despite my efforts, I am a racist"
We call that biased or judgemental. If you don't harbor pre judgements about a stranger until you see how they dress, hear how they talk, etc. then you are making a judgement based on the way they CHOSE to represent themselves. If you already have an idea of how you believe them to be it makes you prejudiced. Not racist. Why does everything have to be racist? Racism is more along the lines of Chris Rock making fun of "White people", not thinking poorly of a person because every word out of their mouth starts with F.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 10, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
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From the US Constitution:
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
And from the Declaration of Independence:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 10, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
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hey there... wow, this sure got busy in here, and it was such a tiny post/thread, last night... say, a lot of it has moved out into the political field, too....
which of course, is affected by such things as were started here... i will sneak back and see what is going on, now...
say, jbar, in your last post, i noticed this important thing that folks innocently can't help but notice, things that are:
truly so... it is: "different" or "differences"...
and of course, even critters notice things that are different and CAN but not always, shy away from it all... people can do this too, as to things, situations, or people... ... again, this issue of "different" comes into play---and really CAN for kids:
it still seems like a good thing to help kids learn about things, situations and people and whatever else seems different, meaning to learn whatever facts they can, etc... this way, they learn to embrace working relationships on how to handle life in ways that lead folks to find a "common core ground" and work from there on these "differences"....
there is a reason things are differnt---even as gardens are different... and fruit is different... etc....
far too often, though, different breeds-up hostility, and after being a mom so many years, i can see so much that goes wrong in childhood during the crucial years of "exploring ones world...
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Flashlight
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:04am PT
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Tolerance only applies to conservatives and Christians...they are the only ones required to be tolerant.
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Gunks, NY
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:17am PT
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I'd like to add my worthless 2 cents in the mix. Jbar, you make a really valuable point that would help us have an honest "conservation about race". It might help us have an honest conversation about race too... who knows. Prejudice is not tantamount to racism. It is simply a crutch of being human- one that we all must over come for ourselves. Promoting a double standard is simply the way the self righteous seek to take the spotlight off of their own issues by being more vocal about some one elses short comings.
The only thing that breaks down prejudicial barriers is talking honestly and not being afraid of being pounced on for being a racist. There is plenty of ignorance to go around and political correctness serves only to make a small group of people feel good about themselves and keeps the rest of society scared and suspicious of eachother.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:34am PT
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Maybe this will make conservatives feel better. It seems fitting.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 11, 2008 - 03:16am PT
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Again, I have climbed El Cap with republicans.
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jbar
Mountain climber
Inside my head
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Oct 11, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
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True words Mr. Porkchop
Jbro way to reach across the isle. McCain would be proud. lol
I once asked to see a different Dr. because the one my ins gave me was Indian. Never even spoke to him. Just say that he was Indian and asked to see someone else. Am I a racist.
Heck no. I have indian friends, love Indian food, have dated an Indian girl. I have had experiences that turned me off of Indian Dr.'s so I guess you could say that I am prejudiced against Indian Dr.'s. Everyone has prejudisms. Stereotypes are not always wrong either. They exist for a reason. Comedians make fun of them all the time. All of this does not have to be negative.
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