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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2008 - 01:16pm PT
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I'm too lazy to research it. Only weird thing I've seen is some Tom Cruise interview where he said "if I see a car accident, I have to stop, because I know I'm the only one who can help" or something like that.
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Sep 18, 2008 - 01:46pm PT
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This famous article critical of Scientology has been awarded the Gerald Loeb Award for distinguished business and financial journalism, the Worth Bingham Prize and the Conscience in Media Awards from the American Society of Journalists and Authors.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho
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Sep 18, 2008 - 01:53pm PT
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Read "Diuretics" by L.Ron Hubbard. It's the science of matter over mind.
Would you trust someone who wears am ascot?
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Sep 18, 2008 - 01:57pm PT
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Can anyone who has a beef with Scientology tell us what's wrong with it, in your own words, without refering to an article someplace someone else wrote or a film on YouTube?
Or are you content to let others do your thinking for you?....Just like the Scientologists.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:08pm PT
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Just another group trying to tell us what and how to think. A very powerful group at that. Something like it's O.K. to be a rich, powerful prick, it doesn't matter how many little pricks you step on... When I research stuff like that , I look at money and motives, and membership.
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:16pm PT
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Anyone know a Scientologist?
Prod.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:21pm PT
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Yes. I do. or did.
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:27pm PT
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L. Ron Hubbard wrote in a letter to his wife Polly (October 1938)
-"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."-
Quoted in Bare-faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard (1987), p. 81
-"'know, we're all wasting our time writing this hack science fiction! You wanta make real money, you gotta start a religion!"-
As reported to Mike Jittlov by Theodore Sturgeon as a statement Hubbard made while at the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society clubhouse in the 1940s.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:35pm PT
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I always loved that quote and it makes good ammo for debate. When I look at these public Scientologists I just see more not to like, than I care to stomach. They are way too far into mass media manipulation.
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Shrug
Trad climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:36pm PT
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I'm not at all a religious person, but I find a "religion" founded by a Science Fiction writer that uses a contraption(lack of a better word)to determine one's happiness a bit... um... "F*#ked up". What's next a religion based on Star Trek...
Oh.. wait...
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Sep 18, 2008 - 02:57pm PT
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all them cults are kinda scary in a way...
kinda like what I saw working for
big "P" in Ventura back in the 80's....
the cult leader would get up in front
of everyone and galvanize the audience
by demonizing sport climbing...everyone
applauds; too weird.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:02pm PT
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Pretty much all religions are self serving schemes to one degree or another. Scientology just happens to be more blatant. At least there's no Scientology Fundamentalists blowing sh#t up.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:07pm PT
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Might be fun to watch them shag their alien spouses.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:15pm PT
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OK... So this thread got me to reading about Scientology, to see what the deal is. All I can say is what a f*#king fruit loop! Anyone who follows him/believes in this crap is a f*#king fruit loop too. Wow!
At least we can take solace in the fact that they are fruity enough that the handing out of the Koolaid should be soon and they'll all be dead.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:19pm PT
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:24pm PT
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"Church, cult; cult, church. Whats the difference? Just another way to be bored on a Sunday."
-Bart Simpson
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