a way too poo in a bag for big walls and alpine rock climbs

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Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 15, 2008 - 11:44am PT
i just ran across this product:



Restop 2 Disposable Bag For Solid Waste

YouTube movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmT8u85vzE

anyone use it? comments? should i recommend it for big wall use in yosemite?
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
Aug 15, 2008 - 11:50am PT
What we really need is some type of sh#t piston that compresses the sh#t and removes the water. Turning the sh#t into pucks that can later be burned as fuel.

JDF
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Aug 15, 2008 - 11:55am PT
It would have to have an opening large enought to go around your a$$, or you'd run the risk of getting crap all over the outside of the bag...especially with bad dihareea.

I'd have to actually look at one, take it for a test drive so-to-speak.
billygoat

climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
Aug 15, 2008 - 12:07pm PT
I've been using a similar product called Wag Bags for some time now. They're awesome. I've heard good things about Restop, but haven't tried. As long as they're biodegradable, I'd say give them your endorsement.
Gunkie

climber
East Coast US
Aug 15, 2008 - 12:39pm PT
I just bought this system for use while camping on our Gunks property:

http://www.easycaretoilet.com/

Works well and seems quite similar to the Restop product. However, the PETT product looks to be a bit bulkier, not that bulky is necessarily a bad thing in these situations. Particularly after a night of Spicy Mexican food and an assortment of adult beverages.

I'll provide action photos for an additional fee.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Aug 15, 2008 - 12:45pm PT
I'm just kinda curious what's wrong with paper sacks (WTF are you doing using sandwich bags, Chris?!), kitty litter and either a pooptube or waste case? Seriously. Why put so much though into taking a dump - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
Aug 15, 2008 - 12:48pm PT
IIRC this is what they are giving out in the Tetons.
del cross

climber
Bay Area
Aug 15, 2008 - 12:56pm PT
Very similar to the wag bag, more or less interchangable. Like the wag bag the outside plastic ziplock is not smell proof.

They're convenient but expensive and a bit bulky in the poop container. Better to leave the outside bag and extra junk behind and just take the inner bag. Better still: use something cheaper.
billygoat

climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
Aug 15, 2008 - 01:04pm PT
More than a Wag Bag (which I don't think are all that expensive, considering you can go about three times in one)?
del cross

climber
Bay Area
Aug 15, 2008 - 01:09pm PT
After a few cans of OE, a summer sausage, and a can of Denison's Hot & Chunky Chili for dinner I don't think I'd want to open that plastic bag up a second time even if it had a 50 gallon capacity.
Shingle

climber
Aug 15, 2008 - 01:23pm PT
At these prices, I think the urine bag should be designed to convert the waste to drinkable water.
Mike.

climber
Aug 15, 2008 - 02:44pm PT
Chris, Here's some recent pertinent conversation:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=654872


I think at the very least these Wag Bag-type products deserve mention as an alternative to more traditional methods. Some (how many?) are fully adopting the Waste Case-type setup in favor of the tube/paper bag. The magic dust does an amazing job of de-nastifying waste.

Cheers...
Michael D

Big Wall climber
Napoli, Italy
Aug 15, 2008 - 02:53pm PT
If you could just buy a box of the anti-nasty sprinkles, I'd be all over it like STINK! Until then, the tube and bio-doggie bags will doo nicely. Showed the Poop Tube and CMC at the last International Alpine Meeting in Bulgaria...everyone loved the idea almost as much as playing on the portaledge we set-up.
Jordan Ramey

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Aug 15, 2008 - 03:48pm PT
http://www.thebrowncorporation.com/

not as geared towards wall climbing, but much funnier company.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2008 - 04:00pm PT
Thanks everyone for the links. I think on the big wall and high sierra page i will list some of the main companies then post a link to this discussion.

does anyone have a link to a good description of making a low cost equivelent of these systems?
billygoat

climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
Aug 15, 2008 - 04:05pm PT
Jordan--hilarious! The Schit Box also works as a stool! Go figure.
del cross

climber
Bay Area
Aug 20, 2008 - 12:59pm PT
"If you could just buy a box of the anti-nasty sprinkles, I'd be all over it like STINK!"

You can, but as far as I could figure out you have to buy it in bulk. Google "Pooh Powder", it's the stuff in wag bags. You can also buy biodegradable plastic bags and roll your own, so to speak.


I visited Whitneyland a couple of times recently. They give out the Restop kits there. The Restop comes with a metalicized outer ziplock that looks like it should be odor proof, but many of the hikers coming down were surrounded by a cloud of stink. When I came down I encounterd someone coming up and said "Can you smell the lupine?" He sniffed the air a few times, then I leaned over to offer up the top of my pack (where the recently double filled Restop was attached) and he sniffed again -- "Is that a WAG BAG?!"
Brian

climber
Cali
Aug 20, 2008 - 01:26pm PT
They are handing out Reststop bags for free in RMNP every time you apply for a bivy permit. I have several left over from this summer. Seems like a great idea for high-use areas. They bags are "landfill safe" according to the rangers, which I hope means they do biodegrade.

Brian
Transplant

Boulder climber
Tahoe
Aug 20, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
I just used one of these in Zion. Like in RMNP, they hand them out when you receive a canyon permit.

It did the job, but certainly more suitable for a single use. Also - not sure how they could be "landfill safe" - It's a hefty bag inside of a thick mylar bag. Maybe they mean that it won't leech into a landfill.

When planning your next road trip, be sure to check out the Bumper Dumper
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Aug 20, 2008 - 01:50pm PT
There is also that cool lady from Evergreen, Co, that was at the facelift last year who marketed a similar item. Ed, Nature, what was her name, and internet coordinates?
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