JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Aug 15, 2008 - 11:50am PT
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What we really need is some type of sh#t piston that compresses the sh#t and removes the water. Turning the sh#t into pucks that can later be burned as fuel.
JDF
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Aug 15, 2008 - 11:55am PT
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It would have to have an opening large enought to go around your a$$, or you'd run the risk of getting crap all over the outside of the bag...especially with bad dihareea.
I'd have to actually look at one, take it for a test drive so-to-speak.
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billygoat
climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
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Aug 15, 2008 - 12:07pm PT
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I've been using a similar product called Wag Bags for some time now. They're awesome. I've heard good things about Restop, but haven't tried. As long as they're biodegradable, I'd say give them your endorsement.
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Gunkie
climber
East Coast US
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Aug 15, 2008 - 12:39pm PT
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I just bought this system for use while camping on our Gunks property:
http://www.easycaretoilet.com/
Works well and seems quite similar to the Restop product. However, the PETT product looks to be a bit bulkier, not that bulky is necessarily a bad thing in these situations. Particularly after a night of Spicy Mexican food and an assortment of adult beverages.
I'll provide action photos for an additional fee.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Aug 15, 2008 - 12:45pm PT
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I'm just kinda curious what's wrong with paper sacks (WTF are you doing using sandwich bags, Chris?!), kitty litter and either a pooptube or waste case? Seriously. Why put so much though into taking a dump - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Scared Silly
Trad climber
UT
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Aug 15, 2008 - 12:48pm PT
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IIRC this is what they are giving out in the Tetons.
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del cross
climber
Bay Area
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Aug 15, 2008 - 12:56pm PT
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Very similar to the wag bag, more or less interchangable. Like the wag bag the outside plastic ziplock is not smell proof.
They're convenient but expensive and a bit bulky in the poop container. Better to leave the outside bag and extra junk behind and just take the inner bag. Better still: use something cheaper.
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billygoat
climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
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Aug 15, 2008 - 01:04pm PT
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More than a Wag Bag (which I don't think are all that expensive, considering you can go about three times in one)?
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del cross
climber
Bay Area
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Aug 15, 2008 - 01:09pm PT
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After a few cans of OE, a summer sausage, and a can of Denison's Hot & Chunky Chili for dinner I don't think I'd want to open that plastic bag up a second time even if it had a 50 gallon capacity.
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Shingle
climber
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Aug 15, 2008 - 01:23pm PT
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At these prices, I think the urine bag should be designed to convert the waste to drinkable water.
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Mike.
climber
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Aug 15, 2008 - 02:44pm PT
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Chris, Here's some recent pertinent conversation:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=654872
I think at the very least these Wag Bag-type products deserve mention as an alternative to more traditional methods. Some (how many?) are fully adopting the Waste Case-type setup in favor of the tube/paper bag. The magic dust does an amazing job of de-nastifying waste.
Cheers...
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Michael D
Big Wall climber
Napoli, Italy
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Aug 15, 2008 - 02:53pm PT
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If you could just buy a box of the anti-nasty sprinkles, I'd be all over it like STINK! Until then, the tube and bio-doggie bags will doo nicely. Showed the Poop Tube and CMC at the last International Alpine Meeting in Bulgaria...everyone loved the idea almost as much as playing on the portaledge we set-up.
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billygoat
climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
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Aug 15, 2008 - 04:05pm PT
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Jordan--hilarious! The Schit Box also works as a stool! Go figure.
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del cross
climber
Bay Area
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Aug 20, 2008 - 12:59pm PT
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"If you could just buy a box of the anti-nasty sprinkles, I'd be all over it like STINK!"
You can, but as far as I could figure out you have to buy it in bulk. Google "Pooh Powder", it's the stuff in wag bags. You can also buy biodegradable plastic bags and roll your own, so to speak.
I visited Whitneyland a couple of times recently. They give out the Restop kits there. The Restop comes with a metalicized outer ziplock that looks like it should be odor proof, but many of the hikers coming down were surrounded by a cloud of stink. When I came down I encounterd someone coming up and said "Can you smell the lupine?" He sniffed the air a few times, then I leaned over to offer up the top of my pack (where the recently double filled Restop was attached) and he sniffed again -- "Is that a WAG BAG?!"
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Brian
climber
Cali
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Aug 20, 2008 - 01:26pm PT
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They are handing out Reststop bags for free in RMNP every time you apply for a bivy permit. I have several left over from this summer. Seems like a great idea for high-use areas. They bags are "landfill safe" according to the rangers, which I hope means they do biodegrade.
Brian
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Transplant
Boulder climber
Tahoe
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Aug 20, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
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I just used one of these in Zion. Like in RMNP, they hand them out when you receive a canyon permit.
It did the job, but certainly more suitable for a single use. Also - not sure how they could be "landfill safe" - It's a hefty bag inside of a thick mylar bag. Maybe they mean that it won't leech into a landfill.
When planning your next road trip, be sure to check out the Bumper Dumper
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Aug 20, 2008 - 01:50pm PT
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There is also that cool lady from Evergreen, Co, that was at the facelift last year who marketed a similar item. Ed, Nature, what was her name, and internet coordinates?
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