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the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Feb 22, 2009 - 06:32pm PT
i went to the land of OZ in the fall of 1986 with Steve Schneider. we spent 3.5 months @ Araplies and got to see a few other places.
arapiles is an amazing area and very polished sand stone- similar to the new river gorge.
i would love to get back there some day...

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Feb 23, 2009 - 12:23am PT
Hey Steve,
It was great to get together with you and Mimi just before we left. We've now just returned, having visited 16 different climbing areas in Australia/Tasmania. Arapiles was a highlight. We stayed 3 weeks.

What happened to all the posts on this thread? Weren't there a few hundred posts or is that the Gunks I'm thinking of?

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2009 - 10:38pm PT
This one is a bit shorter than the Gunks thread for sure! I hope that you had a great trip with the crew! Post up some photos when you get the chance.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2009 - 11:02am PT
Content Bump!!!

Trad climber
novato ca
Aug 31, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
Keeper of Australia Mt

Trad climber
Whitehorse, Yukon , Canada
Aug 31, 2009 - 04:55pm PT
Good to see the old articles on Araps - not that the routes have anything to do with my modest capability but the stuff surely sets dreams in motion as does thoughts of the two stints I have done down in the Wimmera. Hope to get back before too long to continue my tussle with old classics and to rescue a few skeletons from my developing Araps closet. Araps - a world classic lump out towards the black stump. Superb crag and just righto in the Aussie winter!

Lockwood's book is a great contextual piece and a worthy buy for anyone heading down under towards that thunder. I also have a complete set of Rock which has a lot of historical beta on the place as well - lots of wildly divergent and good Aussie humor in that portfolio too!

I have the first edition of the guide with annotations that track my insurgency so I will pick up the upgraded edition from the website.

Are you doing an upgrade on the Grampians guide too?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2009 - 07:43pm PT
Anyone ever made a go at subsisting on this stuff?!?

Certainly qualifies as food and drink, all in one! My favorite stout!

Trad climber
The Lost Highway
Nov 28, 2009 - 08:09pm PT

Gym climber
obsessively minitracking all winter at Knob Hill
Jan 25, 2010 - 02:14pm PT
So how long is long enough for a visit to Araps and maybe the Grampians? I've got a month, max. March.

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 25, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
Coopers, yeah! Seriously, we're spoiled here in the US with micros. Coopers is a close as I could get, so it became my beer of choice. All beer in OZ is expensive, few selections and not that good.

Arapiles? We spent 3 weeks and blew off the Gramps because we didn't want to miss a single day at Araps. I would have liked another week or two. When you go to the Gramps you're back near civilization and tourists, though I barely saw them and am not qualified to judge but it is hard to beat Arapiles.

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jan 25, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
Wow, Anders - it's "Procol Harum". Thanks for the clarification.

And speaking of clarification, any chance Steve you could rescan the top pix as the text is almost impossible [for me] to read.

Cheers and Aussie beers!

One assumes nobody drinks Foster's in Oz, any more than anyone drinks Molson Golden up here in the Great White North, eh?
Greg Child

Mar 11, 2010 - 09:36am PT
I just noticed this link to some ancient history in Australia. Very nostalgic. A few days ago a major figure in Australian climbing passed away. Chris Baxter was among the earliest Arapiles pioneers, did hundreds of new routes through Araps and the Grampians, wrote many guidebooks, and was publisher of Rock and Wild magazines. He passed away after a long fight with conditions most easily explained as cancer, but not exactly that. He is surivied by his wonderful wife Sue, and countless friends who knew him as one of the most enthusiastic climbers, most vocal and funny, and most supportive of the younger climbers who came after him.
This photo shows Chris (, on right in white shirt) and Rick White at Mt Piddington about 15 years ago. Rick White was also a majot developer in Australian climbing. He died a few years ago also. The E painteed at the base of the climb is for a route named Eternity.
Rick White and Chris Baxter, beneath Eternity, at Mt Piddington, Austr...
Rick White and Chris Baxter, beneath Eternity, at Mt Piddington, Australia
Credit: Greg Child

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Mar 11, 2010 - 09:56am PT
Hey Greg,
Welcome to Supertopo! We've not met yet but I've just missed you a couple of times. Kirsten is my sister, of Jim & Kirsten. My wife & I & kids traveled to Australia to climb last year and stayed a short bit with Sally at Blackheath.

Would you mind starting a new thread for Chris Baxter? It's worthy. We had a great time reading about him in all the guides, as well as the exploits of you, Mike Law, Kim Carrigan and all the others.

I think we took Sally to Piddington and climbed Eternity.


Social climber
Ventura, California
Mar 11, 2010 - 11:06am PT
Sorry to hear that about Chris. my condolences to his family and friends.

Hadn't heard about Rick either. I knew pretty well from the early Chouinard days.


Mar 11, 2010 - 12:08pm PT

New Zealand
May 6, 2010 - 06:37pm PT
Pushing the Antipodes back up front. I smell gumtree oil, mates.

Edit: and content from Greg Child, my vote for best climbing writer in recent times. For example:

"Gasherbrums III, II and I poke up like huge tusks, their snows pearly white, their rocks shining amber. The sky is indigo blue, fading to a deeply pink upper atmosphere. Low on the horizon, a full moon blasts a surreal glow across the thin air, from the monsoon thunderheads over Indian Kashmir to Nanga Parbat in the west. A landscape from another planet. No, our own wild and beautiful earth."

From "The Obscure Object of Desire", as read in the "Mixed Emotions" collection.

Trad climber
May 6, 2010 - 06:50pm PT
Credit: Paco

My dad climbing Tannin (19)

Beautiful rock, wildlife, weather, foliage and people...can't wait to be back.

between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
May 6, 2010 - 08:20pm PT
Went to Araps in '87. Still the best crag I've been to. The Pines was cool! Here's my wife coming up Christian Crack.
Laura jamming in Oz
Laura jamming in Oz
Credit: chill

Jim Henson's Basement
May 6, 2010 - 08:31pm PT
Great thread Steve. Arapiles is definitley near the top of my wish list for out of US climbing.

Thanks for the post and all the great pictures everyone.

May 6, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
Hi Greg
Hope all is well with you.
Hey care to recap the procul harem history and maybe post a shot of the immortal inscription at the base of the crag in fond memory of Chris. I imagine it would give him a chuckle!
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