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Port

Trad climber
Norwalk, CT
Jan 5, 2015 - 09:05am PT
You guys all sound like real winners. Chauvinisitc backhanded comments, alcoholic rants, and you're so delusional you actually think it's funny and women like it.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2015 - 09:26am PT
You guys all sound like real winners. Chauvinisitc backhanded comments, alcoholic rants, and you're so delusional you actually think it's funny and women like it. -port, from Norwalk connecticut
f*#k you port
your handle is akin
to mismanaged whine.
LearningTrad

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2015 - 09:31am PT
I love how we try to distill the Female down so much.

I'm sure there are women who would warmly respond to such a line - namely, women who would sleep with a dude like Weege. Let him be.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2015 - 09:42am PT
Wait a minute, Weege copped to going before the bar therefor he cannot be
held responsible for anything he might have said any more than any
lawyer can be who chooses to represent himself. Case dismissed.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 5, 2015 - 09:58am PT


Weege, I'm pretty sure the content of the sidebar ads is driven by the content of the current page...in this case, the thread title & various comments. Not a problem...jes' sayin'.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 5, 2015 - 10:03am PT
You guys all sound like real winners. Chauvinisitc backhanded comments, alcoholic rants, and you're so delusional you actually think it's funny and women like it.

Yep.
Port

Trad climber
Norwalk, CT
Jan 5, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
Sorry Weege, I mean no disrespect. I like your posts, your poetry, and find you a generally intering person with insight, sometimes. Much more than can be said for others.

I was raised by a single mom. As a man I have very little respect for degrading women, which I believe you do in your posts and life stories, whether intentional or not. Mostly for the assument of like minded men on Supertopo.

I don't "get it", and I'm not sure you do either. If you know what I mean.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2015 - 04:27am PT
though my prose may blatantly scream otherwise,
i am not chauvinistic.
i am completely chivalrous.
crankster

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 05:50am PT
Here's to this old school thread...
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Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2015 - 06:56am PT
a bizarre and unlikely set of behaviors,
i've discovered,
yield incredible results in this pursuit
of which we speak.

blatant honesty coupled with borderline awkward discourse
intrigues the opposite sex almost into
a position of reckless surrender.

for example,
sitting on a bar stool, stewing in my mind,
this fine-up lady next to me is gnawing on my silence.

so i entertain it for a while,
giving her the courtesy of an open ear,
and finally i turn to her and say this,

"i don't really feel like talking.

you see i'm not entirely sure of what's
transpiring right now in the bottom of
my mind.

and i do suspect that the answer to my
burning wonder lies in your warm
hand with your cheek resting on my
shoulder.

let's dance."

her eyes turn foggy
as my five dollars of lou reed plays out
on the tunes box

and we stand up
and embrace.

she tells me that she never wants to let go.

i tell her that i'm always gone,
despite the deceptiveness of my presence.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 21, 2015 - 07:00am PT
Ah, sneaky man-ipulation...
crankster

Trad climber
Jan 21, 2015 - 07:09am PT
the bar stool...hmmm.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 21, 2015 - 07:59am PT

'Twas a balmy summer evening and a goodly crowd was there,
Which well-nigh filled Joe's barroom on the corner of the square,
And as songs and witty stories came through the open door
A vagabond crept slowly in and posed upon the floor.

“Where did it come from?” someone said. “The wind has blown it in.”
“What does it want?” another cried, “Some whiskey, rum or gin?”
“Here Toby, seek him, if your stomach is equal to the work —
I wouldn't touch him with a fork, he’s filthy as a Turk.”

This badinage the poor wretch took with stoical good grace;
In fact, he smiled as though he thought he'd struck the proper place.
“Come boys, I know there's kindly hearts among so good a crowd —
To be in such good company would make a deacon proud.”

“Give me a drink — that’s what I want — I'm out of funds you know;
When I had cash to treat the gang, this hand was never slow.
What? You laugh as though you thought this pocket never held a sou:
I once was fixed as well, my boys, as any of you.”

“There thanks, that’s braced me nicely; God Bless you one and all;
Next time I pass this good saloon, I'll make another call.
Give you a song? No, I can't do that, my singing days are past;
My voice is cracked, my throat's worn out, and my lungs are going fast.

“Say, give me another whiskey, and I'll tell you what I'll do —
I'll tell you a funny story and in fact I'll promise two.
That I was ever a decent man, not one of you would think;
But I was, some four or five years back. Say, give me another drink.

“Fill 'er up, Joe, I want to put some life into this old frame —
Such little drinks, to a bum like me are miserably tame;
Five fingers — there, that's the scheme — and corking whiskey too.
Well, here's luck, boys; and landlord, my best regards to you.

“You’ve treated me pretty kindly, and I'd like to tell you how
I came to be this dirty sap, you see before you now.
As I told you once, I was a man with muscle, frame and health,
And, but for a blunder, ought have made considerable wealth.

“I was a painter — not one that daubed on bricks or wood,
But an artist, and for my age I was rated pretty good,
I worked hard at my canvas and bidding fair to rise,
For gradually I saw the star of fame before my eyes.

“I made a picture, perhaps you've seen, 'tis called the 'Chase of Fame.'
It brought me fifteen hundred pounds and added to my name.
And then I met a woman — now comes the funny part —
With eyes that petrified my brain, and sank into my heart.

“Why don't you laugh? 'Tis funny, that the vagabond you see
Could ever love a woman and expect her love for me;
But 'twas so, and for a month or two, her smiles were freely given,
And when her loving lips touched mine it carried me to heaven.

“Did you ever see a woman for whom your soul you'd give,
With a form like the Milo Venus, too beautiful to live;
With eyes that would beat the Koh-i-noor, and a wealth of chestnut hair?
If so, 'twas she, for there never was another half so fair.

“I was working on a portrait, one afternoon in May,
Of a fair haired boy, a friend of mine, who lived across the way.
And Madeline admired it, and much to my surprise,
Said she'd like to know the man who had such dreamy eyes.

“She didn't take long to find him, and before the month had flown
My friend had stolen my darling, and I was left alone.
And, ere a year of misery had passed above my head.
The jewel I treasured so had tarnished, and was dead.

“That's why I took to drink, boys. Why, I never see you smile,
I thought you'd be amused, and laughing all the while.
Why, what's the matter friend? There's a teardrop in your eye.
Come, laugh like me; 'tis only babes and women that should cry.

“Say boys, if you give me just another whiskey, I'll be glad,
And I'll draw right here the picture, of the face that drove me mad.
Give me that piece of chalk with which you mark the baseball score —
And you shall see the lovely Madeline upon the barroom floor.

Another drink, and with chalk in hand, the vagabond began,
To sketch a face that well might buy the soul of any man.
Then, as he placed another lock upon that shapely head,
With a fearful shriek, he leaped and fell across the picture — dead!

John Henry Titus, 1872
SicMic

climber
across the street from Marshall
Jan 21, 2015 - 08:55am PT
Good call Locker.

Get 'em around the waist.
Lift with the legs.

Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 21, 2015 - 11:56am PT
I protest criticizing our poet.

A line like that is clearly meant as a warning to sensible women. It's also a lure for the crazy fish who can be toyed with like a sucker fish. Catch and release is clearly the Norwegian way in cases like these.
couchmaster

climber
Jan 22, 2015 - 12:56pm PT
From off the National Review: hope this helps sort the conversation out.




"Ten Ways Men Oppress Women with Their Everyday Behavior

By now, you may have heard of “manspreading” – when a guy sits with his legs apart on the subway to assert his dominance — and “manslamming” – when a man doesn’t get out of the way of a woman on the street and they run into each other.

While these are definitely very important women’s issues, there are still so many more we need to be talking about. Here are ten words for even more ways men are constantly oppressing women:

1. Broplimenting
This is when a guy says something nice to you without asking for your consent first. Men should always ask. “Do you consent to me complimenting you?” before saying anything nice or else it’s assault. No, nonverbal cues don’t count – he still has to ask for explicit consent before offering that kind of affection.

2. Mansulting
This is when a man says something really mean to you. You know, like, the opposite of a broplimenting. Mansults are worse than insults because each one is another brick being added to the fortress of the patriarchy that surrounds you every day no matter how hard you try to fight it with hashtags on Feminist Twitter.

3. Bropen-mouth chewing
When people see man chewing with his mouth open, most think that it’s just him being rude — but that’s just because most people aren’t educated on women’s issues. Social-justice scholars realize that feeling the need to display the crushing and grinding of food is actually a sign of dominance over the lesser being that you are consuming. Especially if it’s meat because eating meat is sexist because women need to show solidarity with animals because that’s how the world sees us anyway (like animals) and we have to be their friends. (I am only interested in dating vegan men who make sure they have chewed and swallowed all of their food before we return to talking about how many microaggressions there are in the restaurant. It’s so rowomantic!)

4. Mentoring
You’ve heard this word before, but unless you’re as educated and culturally aware as I am, you have probably never thought about how sexist it is. Why isn’t it “women-toring,” huh? I’ll tell you why. It’s because we live in a society where people think men are the only ones who can give advice. Seriously, I hate when like my boss or my dad tries to help me out or give me feedback and acts like it’s because he has more experience when really we all know it’s just because he thinks that he is better than me because he is a man and I am a woman. I fight against this by refusing to take advice or direction from men and smearing anyone who tries to offer it in a Jezebel post. I just did this with my boss, actually, and guess what? He fired me! Just more proof of sexism in the workplace.

5. Sleep Manpnea
Men snore because they have to keep imposing their existence on us even while they are asleep. It is of course different from women’s snoring. When a woman snores, it’s because she has been manterrupted all day and needs some way for her voice to be heard. By the way, if a man ever tells you that your snoring bothers him, what he really means is that he is uncomfortable with the idea of women being heard.


6. Mantroduction
If a man introduces you instead of letting you introduce yourself, that’s because he wants to control your identity. If you are out with a guy and he says “This is my girlfriend . . .,” leave immediately. Sure, he might have just been trying to be respectful, but don’t feel bad for him. That would mean he doesn’t understand his privilege and you don’t want to be with someone that dumb and out of touch anyway.

7. Manspiration
This is when a man tries to inspire you with a story from his own life as if he has any idea what your life is like as a woman. Now, while that’s unacceptable, it’s also past time to recognize that men and women are equal and exactly the same. Sometimes guys say this makes no sense and is contradictory and ask me to explain, but that’s an example of . . .

8. Manterrogating
This is when a man asks you to explain anything or questions anything you say. This is included but not limited to being asked to explain contradicting lines of thought or provide any actual facts or evidence to support your claims. A real man knows the only acceptable thing to do is to blindly accept anything that comes out of a woman’s mouth rather than to continue gender disparities by manterrogating her.

9. Manpacking
Similar to manspreading, (where men sit with their legs apart on the subway and take up too much room,) this is when men bring large backpacks onto the subway that take up too much room. Before you dare manterrogate me and ask why it’s a gender issue when women can have large bags too, check your privilege and realize that the only reason women have backpacks is for makeup and other items they need to measure up to the standards imposed on her by the patriarchy. If you see a woman with a large backpack taking up space, the only person you should be mad it is yourself for imposing that backpack on her with your unrealistic standards of beauty.

10. Mensoring
This is when men censor their cool partybro bro-time stories around women because they don’t think we can handle anything offensive."
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Jan 23, 2015 - 04:24am PT
Couchmaster,

1. Broplimenting
This is when a guy says something nice to you without asking for your consent first. Men should always ask. “Do you consent to me complimenting you?” before saying anything nice or else it’s assault. No, nonverbal cues don’t count – he still has to ask for explicit consent before offering that kind of affection.

The statement makes little sense in that in the beginning the author is talking of a mere compliment to women and then in the end saying you need explicit consent before offering that kind of affection. The writer does not seem to be talking of the sames things within the paragraph: First a mere compliment? and then specifically a complement seeking or offering affection is an entirely different statement.

Just before leaving a Christmas party last year I complimented a woman on her hairdo without asking her permission. I could see she enjoyed the compliment. She teaches Women's Studies at UW and seems quite aware of these women vs. men issues. Next morning I see she made me a Google friend.

So, was I oppressing her? Hardly!



Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 05:08am PT
social encounters are
seasoned with situational parody,
as well as emotional context.

all of the exchanges that i have
posted here in my virtual seminar
on how to gracefully be an assehole

have transpired respectfully
and playfully, and fit well
within their moment.

i have unparalleled respect for
women. i do.

i also adore them,
and absolutely worship the beauty that they embody.

so the three of these disciplines explode
within my disaster mind and,
i happen.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:30am PT

Cassette or record player required.










Proof that men in the previous generation were morons too.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 06:46am PT
when greatness exceeds the
capacity of it's carrier,
it just goes on spilling out
all over records
and onto empty pages,
and sometimes on
that soft place
in between a soft place
and a soft place.
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