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JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 2, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
Yeah, they got tickets, and I'm glad too. Like you, I have almost been run over more than a dozen times by ladies (sorry, it always was) while I was in a crosswalk and they were texting and turning at the same time, trying to "beat the traffic" coming from the other way.

Sad to say, I've seen about an equal number of cell phone law violators among men and women, and young and old. Among the mature, it's generally been male contractors in their full-sized pickups. Among the young, it's been more women than men. Overall, though, I just haven't seen enough of a difference in either age or gender to make any generalizations, except that the younger drivers seem far more prone to text and drive than the older ones.

Your statement above, though, causes me some bewilderment. Was the light green while you were in the crosswalk? I have seen a marked increase in pedestrians crossing against the light in California. This used to be exclusively an East Coast phenomenon, and for good reason; doing so here in California is a good way to get killed because of the legality of right turns on red lights.

John
DataMind

Social climber
Jul 2, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jul 2, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
I'm sure there are just as many males as females, just my experience in my town.

The light was green, and the driver in question was in the intersection going to turn left, waiting for the line of cars coming towards the intersection to end. While she was waiting, she was texting, head down and only looking up occaisionally to check if the cars were done coming by. During one of the periods when she was looking down, I started to cross the crosswalk (the pedestrian light was still full on, hadn't even started to count down). She looked up from her cell, saw a gap, and gunned it to make her left hand turn, right where I was in the middle of the crosswalk. I hear her tires squeel, I jumped to the right and yelled, and she slammed on the brakes looking very flustered. By this time there was another car coming from the end of the "gap" she was trying to "shoot" and they squeeled to a stop and layed on the horn. She sheepishly finished pulling left and I jogged to the other side of the street, my heart pounding. When she had stopped at an angle in the intersection, her left front bumper was less than 6 in. from me.

Edit: And yes, now if I see person in the middle of the intersection not looking up and paying attention, I wait for a full cycle of the light to make my crossing.
nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Jul 2, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Pedestrians should now carry an air horn from a boating supply store.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 2, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
If I wish to answer my cell phone while driving I do so...Although I make a point to focus, to pay even closer attention to everything if I do.

GFYS if you don't like it.

popo's

Catch me if you can.

My livelyhood depends on phone calls.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
People on the phone are as dangerous as drunk drivers. The law is meant to protect me from you. It's not like a seat belt or helmet law.

People who cannot control themselves or their cars have no right to be driving.

Dave

P.S> Go hands free. Holding that thing is a serious part of the problem.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
You worry to much about me.

I'm not your problem. Lotsa uncoordinated folks out there. And going one handed is not the main problem. It's the fact that a lot of humans cannot concentrate on their driving while talking on a cell phone. Or talking period. Others have more difficulty if their hands are involved at the same time.. some don't.

Some can drive just fine. One size fits all law for a situation that is a little more complex than that.

The only time I don't use a phone while driving is if it's busy enough that I cannot also keep an eye out for cops while doing everything else very safely. Even then I'll usually risk it and skip the half mile+ scanning and some of the rearview mirror scanning.

However I do usually pull over or call back when I have to start taking notes.

Be fun to do some driving tests to prove it.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
P.S> Go hands free. Holding that thing is a serious part of the problem.

Not really true

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57588876/even-hands-free-texting-while-driving-is-dangerous-study-finds/

It is true that you can sometimes talk on a cellphone and drive safely. however the conversation can turn from mundane to highly distracting very quickly, that is when it becomes dangerous.


Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 2, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
5 years later I wonder if Jody feels the same.

I'm getting an airhorn!

Gotta also wonder what the guy that hit me and ran last month was doing.


They should make all phones and headsets cease to function when moving!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 2, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
They should make all phones and headsets cease to function when moving!

They should make the whole 'infotainment' system frozen while moving.
That includes the satellite radio with 900 channels.
CalebMcanelly

Gym climber
CA, NY, USA
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:35am PT
In your mind what is a GPS jammer and what can it do to help you? Only when you are in the situation that the GPS jammer is need you will understand how important and useful such kind of device is. Gaining more knowledge of the device? Just start and then you will have access to the best GPS jammer.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 17, 2013 - 03:59am PT
5 fatalitys this summer on our east to west rt4 that runs through the towns that i live in . all on a 15 mile winding stretch w lots of turns and no shoulder. most cell phone incidents. cross the center line while looking at phone head on tractor trailer. i was doing carpentry on the local funeral home the week that we had two in a few days. One mom found with the phone in her lap.....
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 17, 2013 - 04:07am PT
There's an app for that.

GPS enabled early warning system. Driveris warned by a wiggling steer wheel (don't pull up!).

Pedestrian is warned by funeral music.

When the bluetooth is close enough to work, it starts playing the Last Rites.

DMT
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 17, 2013 - 04:27am PT
making 20 hours a week a full time job would go so far to solving this issues...
okie

Trad climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:47am PT
I am more distracted by watching out for the fuzz when I am on my phone than anything else.
I'm not down for passing laws such as this. So many people relate these type of issues to just their personal experience without thinking about the implications of what kind of society is being engineered: "man that guy's an idiot, so lets take away everyones rights."
Climbing would definitely be illegal in such a world. Driving would be severely restricted as well.
It is astonishing how many folks are willing to give up their freedom. I don't want to give up even the smallest bit of freedom. Once it's gone will ya ever get it back?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:53am PT
However I do usually pull over or call back when I have to start taking notes.

Well, thank god for that!

I don't like the hands free law. At least when people are actually talking into the phone you can see that and get the f*#k out of their way.
Bad Climber

climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:54am PT
As an avid cyclist, I'd be totally happy with a complete ban of cell phone use in cars by the driver. A number of studies now show that hand held or hands free doesn't matter. It's the weird turning inward of the attention to the conversation that is the problem. While I agree it is possible at SOME times to talk reasonably safely, it could also be argued it's possible to drink a bit and drive safely sometimes. I read somewhere that being on a cell phone and being at about the legal limit with alcohol reduces one's reaction time about the same.

Turn off the damn phone and drive. We don't need more distractions.

BAd
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
you know that germans mock us for drinkholders right?
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