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Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
This is about the only negative thing I'll say on ST.

There is no hope in politics, no matter which side you choose.

I always vote, then later ask, Why?
dirtbag

climber
May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
I can't wait to see them on state together debating each other.
skipt

Mountain climber
Rice, Washington
May 30, 2008 - 06:27pm PT
Sorry Dingus,

I have to call a "bullsh!t" alert on this one.

You only wish it was as clear as you say.

The latest poll results from Rasmussen. (The most current on Real Clear Politics.)

Rasmussen Tracking

05/26 - 05/29 1600 Likely Voters
43% Obama 46% McCain

That would put McCain ahead by +3.0

The best numbers for a Republican Presidential Candidate at this time in the race for many an election.

What was the relevance of that Savimbi question again?


Skip
dirtbag

climber
May 30, 2008 - 06:34pm PT
McCain's supporters should be worried. The fact he hasn't cracked 46% during a time when Dems have been at each other's throats is not a good sign for him.
skipt

Mountain climber
Rice, Washington
May 30, 2008 - 06:44pm PT
Hey dirtbag,

This is a nationwide poll (like the ones DMT called attention to.)

When you break it down state by state, Obama does much worse than shown here.

In fact many projections show McCain winning very handily when you take into account the Electoral votes.


Skip

Lynn, I disagree with your premise that it does not matter who wins. Don't get discouraged, the numbers are looking very good for McCain.
pc

climber
East of Seattle
May 30, 2008 - 06:47pm PT
Skipt,

As reported by Fox and polling Mississippi?

Besides it looks like Hillary's ahead in the popular vote...

pc
skipt

Mountain climber
Rice, Washington
May 30, 2008 - 06:50pm PT
Hey pc,

I have no idea what you are trying to tell me, can you try again?

Skip
pc

climber
East of Seattle
May 30, 2008 - 06:53pm PT
Means Rasmussen's results are a statiscal anomaly. It should be discarded as a useful poll. Pick one in the middle or average them all.

$.02,
pc



Dingus Milktoast

climber
NorCal
May 30, 2008 - 06:59pm PT
Actually I was speaking of California polls. Should have said so, sorry. 3 polls in the last week have McCain down by 15+ points.

Must be that cochair stronghold.

DMT
skipt

Mountain climber
Rice, Washington
May 30, 2008 - 07:03pm PT
Hey pc,

Rasmussen has the best record of any polling service this election, hands down.

It beat your method of averaging in a number of elections, do I have to remind you of New Hampshire, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, .....

Skip

EDIT: Hey Dingus, Point taken. California is going to be a tough state for McCain.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 30, 2008 - 07:09pm PT
I thought Bill Clinton was in charge of messages of hope. He's from Hope, Arkansas after all.
DJS

climber
wherever my mind exists
May 30, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
Gallup has Obama at 46% vs McCain at 45%
and Clinton at 47% vs McCain at 45%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107608/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Clinton-About-Even-vs-McCain.aspx

It's basically a dead even heat.

WoodySt

Trad climber
Riverside
May 30, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
There are far too many variables this time around to make an educated guess at who will win in the national. One will be the "pissed off" factor among dems: will or will not many female dems vote for McCain or stay home when Obama takes the nomination. Another is to what degree is racism a factor when voters get in the booth. I've never experienced such a confused Presidential contest before; think Chaos Theory with this one.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 30, 2008 - 08:08pm PT



Vampira is out of it.
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
May 30, 2008 - 08:11pm PT
the polls cannot accurately place public opinion until the D base has settled on one candidate, responders to polls potentially have agendas and those are in play until it's a one on one race, period.


once it's mccain and obama, it will be a double didgit spread or close, and the press knows this, it just doesn't make for good copy.


crap, the rethugs can't even win these special elections in historically strong congressional districts, the writing is on the wall, and anyone who says it will be close is a joker or an idiot or both.



mccain is the new dukakis... read 'em and weap!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
May 30, 2008 - 08:12pm PT
All the polls are within the margin of error. I'd like to see the polls that shows Obama "smashing" McCain.
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
May 30, 2008 - 08:47pm PT
just wait til that one "poll" that counts!
wildone

climber
Where you want to be
May 30, 2008 - 09:50pm PT
They didn't call me! The day I'll believe a poll, is, well, never. LOTS of people aren't in the phone book, and LOTS of people (especially anti-social, cantankerous hillbillies such as my self) would never in a million years stay on the phone with an unsolicited call.
Just my .02$.

SKIPT- If you're so sure, let's put some money on it. I'm dead serious. Talk is cheap. You can blather all day about how McCain (give me a break!) is going to trounce Obama. In the end, it's just weightless words.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
May 30, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
I've been called (and responded to) two times so far for polls: 1 State, 1 National.

They are, at best, crap (or a crap shoot) . The margin of error is grossly inaccurate IMO.
malabarista

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
May 30, 2008 - 10:09pm PT
seriously, it's not enough to just defeat McCain. it's time for the entire Republican party to become extinct. i'm sick of the b.s. constantly spewed from Bush and McBush2's mouth. i'm angry at the direction they have lead and want to continue to lead my country. it's disgusting and it's time for them all to be out of their jobs. is anyone even paying attention to how much anger their is out their against this regime? it's going to bubble over one day. if McSame wins it's sure to hit the boiling point. if Obama wins there is a chance the whole damn thing won't explode -but only a chance.
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