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Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
This is about the only negative thing I'll say on ST.

There is no hope in politics, no matter which side you choose.

I always vote, then later ask, Why?
dirtbag

climber
May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
I can't wait to see them on state together debating each other.
dirtbag

climber
May 30, 2008 - 06:34pm PT
McCain's supporters should be worried. The fact he hasn't cracked 46% during a time when Dems have been at each other's throats is not a good sign for him.
pc

climber
East of Seattle
May 30, 2008 - 06:47pm PT
Skipt,

As reported by Fox and polling Mississippi?

Besides it looks like Hillary's ahead in the popular vote...

pc
pc

climber
East of Seattle
May 30, 2008 - 06:53pm PT
Means Rasmussen's results are a statiscal anomaly. It should be discarded as a useful poll. Pick one in the middle or average them all.

$.02,
pc



Dingus Milktoast

climber
NorCal
May 30, 2008 - 06:59pm PT
Actually I was speaking of California polls. Should have said so, sorry. 3 polls in the last week have McCain down by 15+ points.

Must be that cochair stronghold.

DMT
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 30, 2008 - 07:09pm PT
I thought Bill Clinton was in charge of messages of hope. He's from Hope, Arkansas after all.
DJS

climber
wherever my mind exists
May 30, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
Gallup has Obama at 46% vs McCain at 45%
and Clinton at 47% vs McCain at 45%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107608/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Clinton-About-Even-vs-McCain.aspx

It's basically a dead even heat.

WoodySt

Trad climber
Riverside
May 30, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
There are far too many variables this time around to make an educated guess at who will win in the national. One will be the "pissed off" factor among dems: will or will not many female dems vote for McCain or stay home when Obama takes the nomination. Another is to what degree is racism a factor when voters get in the booth. I've never experienced such a confused Presidential contest before; think Chaos Theory with this one.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 30, 2008 - 08:08pm PT



Vampira is out of it.
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
May 30, 2008 - 08:11pm PT
the polls cannot accurately place public opinion until the D base has settled on one candidate, responders to polls potentially have agendas and those are in play until it's a one on one race, period.


once it's mccain and obama, it will be a double didgit spread or close, and the press knows this, it just doesn't make for good copy.


crap, the rethugs can't even win these special elections in historically strong congressional districts, the writing is on the wall, and anyone who says it will be close is a joker or an idiot or both.



mccain is the new dukakis... read 'em and weap!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
May 30, 2008 - 08:12pm PT
All the polls are within the margin of error. I'd like to see the polls that shows Obama "smashing" McCain.
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
May 30, 2008 - 08:47pm PT
just wait til that one "poll" that counts!
wildone

climber
Where you want to be
May 30, 2008 - 09:50pm PT
They didn't call me! The day I'll believe a poll, is, well, never. LOTS of people aren't in the phone book, and LOTS of people (especially anti-social, cantankerous hillbillies such as my self) would never in a million years stay on the phone with an unsolicited call.
Just my .02$.

SKIPT- If you're so sure, let's put some money on it. I'm dead serious. Talk is cheap. You can blather all day about how McCain (give me a break!) is going to trounce Obama. In the end, it's just weightless words.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
May 30, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
I've been called (and responded to) two times so far for polls: 1 State, 1 National.

They are, at best, crap (or a crap shoot) . The margin of error is grossly inaccurate IMO.
malabarista

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
May 30, 2008 - 10:09pm PT
seriously, it's not enough to just defeat McCain. it's time for the entire Republican party to become extinct. i'm sick of the b.s. constantly spewed from Bush and McBush2's mouth. i'm angry at the direction they have lead and want to continue to lead my country. it's disgusting and it's time for them all to be out of their jobs. is anyone even paying attention to how much anger their is out their against this regime? it's going to bubble over one day. if McSame wins it's sure to hit the boiling point. if Obama wins there is a chance the whole damn thing won't explode -but only a chance.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 30, 2008 - 10:18pm PT
"9 out of 10 Youtubes on McCain reveal a dottering, flip floppin old dilly wagger."

 nice wording! Not that it isn't the truth.

like fish in a barrel...
WoodySt

Trad climber
Riverside
May 30, 2008 - 10:40pm PT
There's another factor that I've not seen discussed yet and is very real: experienced voters have learned that giving the government--executive and congress--to the same party usually results in poor government. To what degree this will play, I don't know; but it will play. Too many STopians are seeing what they want to see at this point. I wouldn't bet on either at this juncture; however, my instincts tell me that McCain is stronger across the country than some think.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
May 31, 2008 - 12:30am PT
McCain=Bush =




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Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
May 31, 2008 - 01:22am PT
Well skip, we've seen Bush, with McCain’s nose right up his ass, drive our country into recession.

They have used false propaganda to lead us into a war for their profits. During the process they murdered 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqi's. I call that evil in my book Skipt.

Horrible foreign policy, bad decisions and this ridiculous war have given us a record deficit at the cost of over 4000 of our soldier’s lives and a mangled force returning to America and not properly cared for.

Alqeida is stronger than ever, Osama is still on the loose.

When the oil companies announce their next quarter earnings there will again be record profits. The Repubs know how to line their pockets at the cost of thousands of jobs sent over seas.

I find them hypocrites when the Repubs say no to stem cell research in the name of religion, opposing a womens right to choose, opposing gay marriage, but supporting the murder of war. WTF

Millions of Americans are loosing their homes. No one has been minding the store for eight years.

There is no incentive for America to lead the world in alternative technology. We have a president in the oil business Sipt and McCain will carry on the good ol boy policy until we are driven out of the universe.

I loathe everything Bush and McCain stand for.

They are Evil
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