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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
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This is about the only negative thing I'll say on ST.
There is no hope in politics, no matter which side you choose.
I always vote, then later ask, Why?
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dirtbag
climber
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May 30, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
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I can't wait to see them on state together debating each other.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 30, 2008 - 06:34pm PT
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McCain's supporters should be worried. The fact he hasn't cracked 46% during a time when Dems have been at each other's throats is not a good sign for him.
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pc
climber
East of Seattle
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May 30, 2008 - 06:47pm PT
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Skipt,
As reported by Fox and polling Mississippi?
Besides it looks like Hillary's ahead in the popular vote...
pc
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pc
climber
East of Seattle
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May 30, 2008 - 06:53pm PT
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Means Rasmussen's results are a statiscal anomaly. It should be discarded as a useful poll. Pick one in the middle or average them all.
$.02,
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 30, 2008 - 07:09pm PT
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I thought Bill Clinton was in charge of messages of hope. He's from Hope, Arkansas after all.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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May 30, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
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There are far too many variables this time around to make an educated guess at who will win in the national. One will be the "pissed off" factor among dems: will or will not many female dems vote for McCain or stay home when Obama takes the nomination. Another is to what degree is racism a factor when voters get in the booth. I've never experienced such a confused Presidential contest before; think Chaos Theory with this one.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 30, 2008 - 08:08pm PT
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Vampira is out of it.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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May 30, 2008 - 08:11pm PT
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the polls cannot accurately place public opinion until the D base has settled on one candidate, responders to polls potentially have agendas and those are in play until it's a one on one race, period.
once it's mccain and obama, it will be a double didgit spread or close, and the press knows this, it just doesn't make for good copy.
crap, the rethugs can't even win these special elections in historically strong congressional districts, the writing is on the wall, and anyone who says it will be close is a joker or an idiot or both.
mccain is the new dukakis... read 'em and weap!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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May 30, 2008 - 08:12pm PT
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All the polls are within the margin of error. I'd like to see the polls that shows Obama "smashing" McCain.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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May 30, 2008 - 08:47pm PT
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just wait til that one "poll" that counts!
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wildone
climber
Where you want to be
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May 30, 2008 - 09:50pm PT
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They didn't call me! The day I'll believe a poll, is, well, never. LOTS of people aren't in the phone book, and LOTS of people (especially anti-social, cantankerous hillbillies such as my self) would never in a million years stay on the phone with an unsolicited call.
Just my .02$.
SKIPT- If you're so sure, let's put some money on it. I'm dead serious. Talk is cheap. You can blather all day about how McCain (give me a break!) is going to trounce Obama. In the end, it's just weightless words.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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May 30, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
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I've been called (and responded to) two times so far for polls: 1 State, 1 National.
They are, at best, crap (or a crap shoot) . The margin of error is grossly inaccurate IMO.
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malabarista
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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May 30, 2008 - 10:09pm PT
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seriously, it's not enough to just defeat McCain. it's time for the entire Republican party to become extinct. i'm sick of the b.s. constantly spewed from Bush and McBush2's mouth. i'm angry at the direction they have lead and want to continue to lead my country. it's disgusting and it's time for them all to be out of their jobs. is anyone even paying attention to how much anger their is out their against this regime? it's going to bubble over one day. if McSame wins it's sure to hit the boiling point. if Obama wins there is a chance the whole damn thing won't explode -but only a chance.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 30, 2008 - 10:18pm PT
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"9 out of 10 Youtubes on McCain reveal a dottering, flip floppin old dilly wagger."
 nice wording! Not that it isn't the truth.
like fish in a barrel...
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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May 30, 2008 - 10:40pm PT
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There's another factor that I've not seen discussed yet and is very real: experienced voters have learned that giving the government--executive and congress--to the same party usually results in poor government. To what degree this will play, I don't know; but it will play. Too many STopians are seeing what they want to see at this point. I wouldn't bet on either at this juncture; however, my instincts tell me that McCain is stronger across the country than some think.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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May 31, 2008 - 12:30am PT
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McCain=Bush =
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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May 31, 2008 - 01:22am PT
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Well skip, we've seen Bush, with McCain’s nose right up his ass, drive our country into recession.
They have used false propaganda to lead us into a war for their profits. During the process they murdered 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqi's. I call that evil in my book Skipt.
Horrible foreign policy, bad decisions and this ridiculous war have given us a record deficit at the cost of over 4000 of our soldier’s lives and a mangled force returning to America and not properly cared for.
Alqeida is stronger than ever, Osama is still on the loose.
When the oil companies announce their next quarter earnings there will again be record profits. The Repubs know how to line their pockets at the cost of thousands of jobs sent over seas.
I find them hypocrites when the Repubs say no to stem cell research in the name of religion, opposing a womens right to choose, opposing gay marriage, but supporting the murder of war. WTF
Millions of Americans are loosing their homes. No one has been minding the store for eight years.
There is no incentive for America to lead the world in alternative technology. We have a president in the oil business Sipt and McCain will carry on the good ol boy policy until we are driven out of the universe.
I loathe everything Bush and McCain stand for.
They are Evil
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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May 31, 2008 - 02:20am PT
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What a slugfest.
Both in the primaries and here on ST.
I am really pissed off that I do not have a viable candidate to vote for.
But I would suppose that anybody running for the POTUS is not going to be above politics as it is.
McCann = Bush
Hillary = no nomination
Obama = the second coming of Christ
Please, give me a break....
...or at least a decent candidate I can vote for.
Hope lives eternal.
or is that springs eternal? I always get confused this time of year until the summer solstice.
(CUE: those who do not agree with me can use the word 'confused' against me)
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