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GSB

Trad climber
Scotland
Topic Author's Original Post - May 17, 2008 - 12:46pm PT
Hi there

Has anyone been climbing on the KROK and www.gear4rocks.com gear???
But most importantly have you taken a fall???
And how long was its overall lifespan, did it take a lot of punishment before it was retired???

The gear on ebay is a good price, but I am reluctant to go buying from people that I have not heard of before.


Your help is appreciated

Regards

Grant
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 17, 2008 - 04:53pm PT
It looks pretty sketchy.
Are they serious about theses?
tooth

Mountain climber
B.C.
May 17, 2008 - 05:09pm PT
I think it is a crock and you would be dumb to climb with plastic nuts.
bouldering88

climber
May 17, 2008 - 05:11pm PT
FACT:

I have seen plastic nuts and hexes in Australia. They work.
GSB

Trad climber
Scotland
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2008 - 05:31pm PT
You see this is the problem.

There are a lot of contrasting opinions on this equipment and the brand. But I canít seem to find fact. I must admit I am leaning on the side of caution and donít think I will get the nuts or the cams.

But still would like to know of other peoples experiences with this brand and their products.


Thanks Again

Grant
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 17, 2008 - 05:54pm PT
There were some plastic (nylon?) nuts in the 1970s. Maybe made by Peck, maybe? I don't think they ever caught on, so to speak, but that may have had as much to do with the shape/design as with the material. Chouinard/Frost hexcentrics and stoppers pretty much revolutionized nut design at that time.

I don't know how durable plastic nuts would be. Harder material would be brittler, softer material easier to get stuck.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
May 17, 2008 - 06:17pm PT
Nylon webbing works just fine, I don't see why nylon nuts wouldn't work as well. I have to say on a gut level it's scary as hell but prolly just cause it's something new.
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 17, 2008 - 06:35pm PT
I recall a lecture by a friend BITD on the theoretical
properties of plastics and so remain open minded,

there are aging factors

among other things...

not sure what's wrong w/ Aluminum?

weight??
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
May 17, 2008 - 06:39pm PT
Weight and cost I would think. Plastic has to be oodles cheaper. Aluminum requires an enormous amount of energy to smelt.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 17, 2008 - 06:43pm PT
Forestô had some vinyl nuts.

I would like a set of those plastic wires, I would Never trust my life to them.
GSB

Trad climber
Scotland
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2008 - 08:02am PT
Hi there

Has anyone actually used this brand???

Some plastics are very strong for example I think they have made a plastic gun that fires real bullets.

Plastic can be very tough and rigid with a longer life span because they can take a lot more damage than aluminium.

But the whole reason I posted this feed is because I want to know if anyone has used or knows anyone that uses any of their equipment.


Thanks

Grant
ontos

Boulder climber
Washington DC
May 19, 2008 - 11:07pm PT
I remember (vaguely) someone on rc.com pull testing a cam to 110%+ the rated strength of a cam. Can't find it now, but am curious about this budget pro.
KROK

Mountain climber
Stakhanov, Ukraine
Jul 20, 2011 - 09:42am PT
Our company specializes in production of equipment for mountaineering, rock climbing, mountaineering, cave exploring, fitness, and other types of activity (http://krok.biz).

Our equipment produced for work at height and in free space is popular with industrial climbers.

Personal protective equipment against falls from height (PPE) is popular with safety work specialists.

We produce a variety of devices and equipment for rescue and evacuation, and work in cramped conditions for the rescue workers and firefighters.

We produce dumbbells, Swedish ladders, folding saws and other accessories for sports and recreational activities.

Our products is the most optimal combination of price and quality.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 20, 2011 - 10:01am PT
Nice bump....NOT.

BTW, I have 2 sets of these plastic nuts which I haven't used yet. A buddy bought the Aussie ones in the gear store in Natamook when we were over there and then insisted on using them for the next 2 years. They never set as well as aluminum ones, and took more skill to place.

The claim from Krok that their plastic nuts are lighter is only marginally true. The same size DMM/Wild Country nuts are real close to the same (tad heavier in aggregate) while some individualize DMM nuts are actually lighter.

Haven't had them out yet.
this just in

climber
north fork
Jul 20, 2011 - 10:29am PT
I would rather pay more for quality that's been tested repeatedly, and has a reputation of being reliable.
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