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HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Feb 25, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
20 degrees colder up here today than yesterday
Forecast even cooler tomorrow.

So you got busted, Blue, by SC County Park Rangers, not State Park Rangers.
Many (most? all?) State Park Rangers are deputized with full LEO roles/responsibilities on any public land. So you can be busted on any public property by State Park Rangers. They are a major component of The Law to those of us who live up here.
So, briefly, bluering could have been tooled by State Park or Santa Clara County Parks rangers at Summit Rock parking lot.

Actually, the status of trespassing violations in CRSP remains ambivalent..... However, the CRSP Master Plan clearly states that "free roaming" will not be curtailed within the confines of the San Lorenzo Nature Preserve.
This is news to me. I'll look into the Park's current interpretation/policy on this. There is only one piece of private property between my place and CRSP so this is relevant to my particular situation.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Feb 25, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
Yes, "free roaming" and "temporarily closed" are replicated in the final 2001 ratified version of the 200+ page CRSP Master Plan. How State Parks wants to interpret those forensic formulae is anyone's guess. Does State Parks even know those phrases are in there? I think someone complained at one of the public meetings soliciting input about the Master Plan that "free roaming" should not be restricted in the San Lorenzo Natural Preserve and that language got assimilated into the final version. The language of the March 1997 order closing the Lion Caves to public access "temporarily" got assimilated into the Master Plan almost word for word. It sounds as though State Parks wanted to leave the door open to modify the document in the future. But, as I speculated, the phrases might have been nothing but preserved boiler plate copied into the final document and then translated into an Adobe .pdf file.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2012 - 12:15am PT
Hey Fred or Bruce, let's climb on Sunday. Sullly? Fatty? Anybody? Kev and I are all-in!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
badda-bump!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
Anybody going Sunday?
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jun 3, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
I voted against an annual car registration fee to pay for CA state parks just because I have had so many encounters with bullying state park rangers. If they don't want me there, I will go somewhere else where people are friendly. I guess the rangers don't need the job. They got what they deserved when California voters shot down the registration fee proposal.

HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 3, 2012 - 10:52pm PT
Ranger warning:
The past 2 weekends, the Castle Rock AND Summit Rock parking areas have filled by about noon with all the roadside parking gone an hour or so later.
Rangers ARE ticketing any car parked illegally. Being right next to but beyond the allotted parking areas will get you ticketed!

So get there early if going on a weekend.

Optionally you can park at the 2 Sanborn Park turnouts on Skyline about 1 1/2 miles south of Castle Rock. It's about a 40 minute walk from the turnouts to the CRSP entrance along the Skyline Trail. Somewhat less to Lyme Disease rock.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:49am PT
Walk In Campground at Patridge Farm

You can see at the following link that an addendum to the Castle Rock General Plan of March 2000 authorized a new parking lot and walk-in campground to be built at Partridge Farm to the north of the main CRSP Parking Lot.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=21313

What ever became of the project? A walk in campground where climbers and boulderers visiting from out of State or overseas could camp overnight seems like an excellent idea. I know the Sierra Club and a mysterious group called the 'Friends of Castle Rock State Park' filed suite with the State to authorize a environmental advisory committee to formulate an acceptable "carrying capacity" for the Park. Is that where the idea for a walk in campground died? I know a bobcat earth mover appeared in the Partridge Farm parking lot maybe 5 or 6 years ago and moved gravel around for while as if it was working on the preliminary construction for the walk in campground. Then, all activity stopped, the bobcat disappeared, and a couple of mounds of gravel are still sitting piled up in the old Partridge Farm parking lot in front of the Interpretive Shelter.

Always some mysterious background formatting going on up at CRSP. Is there a shadowy group of "disinterested" environmental scientists sitting on a Resource Advisory Committee coming up with a definition of what the acceptable "carrying capacity" of the Park should be? Check out the link to the Castle Rock General Plan Settlement of the Sierra Club et alia's law suite. Wonder if such an independent Resource Advisory Committee ever came into being? If so, what's their agenda; might it include limiting climber access to CRSP? Dunno!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:09am PT
best rangers in the world up there,

so kind and happy, always glad to see park users,



if i had a tazer, id tazer in the morning, id tazer in the evening, all over this land,

Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:28am PT
That's why the Rangers at CRSP are so "happy" as you put it, Sprock! They're being "tooled" themselves by a group of radical environmentalists who would like the Park to be part of a bio-corridor - a "people-free zone". Only the problem, as the shadow government perceives it, are those nasty climbers, who by wandering around the Park challenge that ideal state of affairs. I've always had a gut feeling that someone is giving orders up at Castle, but that someone isn't a State Park ranger. The Wizard of Oz behind the screen? Who exactly is Mr. Big?
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jun 6, 2012 - 09:28am PT
i can't share your enthusiasm for the new breed of tool, bluey. they're a combination of good cop/bad cop rolled into one, and the element that's missing is public accountability. they're out there enforcing an increasing stricture of petty regulations--they think "very professionally"--regulations which have been developed in a vacuum to be force-fed to an increasingly cynical, bewildered and disaffected public.

"what have you given us?"

"a republic, ma'am--if you can keep it."

--exchange between ben franklin and a woman outside the hall in philadelphia
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 6, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
And yet . . . and yet . . . all those petty regulations developed in secret by shadowy third parties are not "laws" per se (although, in pinch, they are backed up by statutes in the California penal code). Still, it appears to me as if the rangers are not so much enforcing laws that are already in place, but making up and enforcing their own set of "laws" according to which way the political wind in blowing in and around the boundaries of Castle Rock State Park and, in fact, all along Skyline Boulevard. One begins to wonder who exactly are the members of the "Friends of Castle Rock State Park" and in what way are they connected with the Santa Clara Audubon Society, the Sierra Club, and of course the South Skyline Property Owners Association? Exactly who is sitting on the so-called Resource Advisory Committee (RAC)? Does such a committee of "disinterested" environmental scientists even exist? Is there some kind of overall policy being implemented to exclude climbers from the Park in order to reduce visitation within some kind of vaguely defined "carrying capacity"? Sure seems as though ranger hostility to climbers is a function of some kind of broader policy decisions made behind closed doors. As Castle Rock squirms!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
Hey, Dirt Claude is coming to town. We climb tomorrow, anybody else wanna go?
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 24, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
any cute asian chicks gonna be there?

what about BEER?
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 24, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
Just ask the CRSP "Shadow Government", Sprock! They're the ones who establish and maintain "carrying capacity" quotas up there.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 24, 2012 - 04:32pm PT
i bet the confiscated gardening equipment is still down there by the green monster,

they were gonna chopper it out but too much wind, probably still there,

i see cartel people climbing at CRSP all the time, down there buy the waterfall, they wait til everybody leaves then slip back down to camp,
thank god for us climbers, otherwise the whole place would be like johnny's garden,

Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 24, 2012 - 04:40pm PT
Still there, Sprock? Bet I can haul it out and install it in a grow farm environment down by the creek in my backyard. Way easier to bust me than the Mexican drug cartels who operate with impunity throughout the hinterland in CRSP. The Rangers find it easier and safer to tag for out-of-bounds parking than to face a blazing AK-47 in the so-called eco-friendly nature preserve! Bet Ranger Jason Rule's 40cal pea-shooter doesn't stand a chance against a hail of teflon bullets!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2012 - 04:45pm PT
Dude, I got Hueys on 'standby', but I need spotters and climbers. The beer-drinkers are all covered. I just may take him down to the Underworld. Watch for ticks at Mud Wall, I had some...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 24, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
ticks are crazy up here too.
and we have a grasshopper infestation that looks like the locusts of south africa,
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
Police yer legs while on patrol!!! Get 'em before they dig in!

I miss ya, Sprock. Gimme a shout when yer back in my perimeter.
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