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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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They look crude but beautiful, creator unknown.
looks like a personal creation, not from a manufacturer
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Unless Ed knows the story behind those pitons they look like student pieces.
Cooper and Baldwin worked with a local blacksmith when the Grand Wall was going up but those don't look to be made with much skill at all. I will say that Dick Long forged his horizontals from thick bar and these may have been his first attempts at forging but that would need to be confirmed directly.
That bottom one has a lot of eye deformation which would lead me to believe that these are not tempered alloy pitons.
Everyone starts somewhere...
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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I like Steve's thought that these could be early models by Dick Long.
Here are his April 1964 models for reference:
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Interesting....the majority of his kit that I now have is Longware; bongs, etc.
I really like this set. They are thick and heavy but small.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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The Dolt pitons are amazing! They look beat up but still has their original shape. Classic Dolt! Its nice that a few have surfaced. Thanks Roots for posting the pics.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Is this one of the early RURPs
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Chossboss
Trad climber
The GNAR
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That looks like a standard production RURP to me. Early 80's Chouinard Equipment.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nutstory, those are 'Cloud Nines.' A production runs on #9's, and a 9" and 12", with. a bd 5 and a #9 VG, for scale. The nine is a close to production model. They are twenty first century cams, made by offwidth superstar Bart Bledsoe in London, Kentucky.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Jaybro, thank you very much for your answer! Would it be possible to get Bart Bledsoe’s email address? I would be delighted to get in touch with him…
Then… hum… Jaybro, with such magnificent weapons on your rack now, you do no longer need your old Wired Bliss Big Bud #7…? Hurrah! No matter its condition, it will find a well-deserved retirement here in Corsica…
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Dec 20, 2015 - 12:13pm PT
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Both are sets of ABC cam units with white trigger bars. The question is: which set was developed first? Also date created?
In the above photo the top set has oval thumb bars stamped “ABC” and white open trigger bars. The bottom set has square thumb bars with a “ABC within a carabiner outline” stamp and closed trigger bars held by a pin.
I would think the improvements on the units would be the oval thumb bar (top) but at the same time the pins on the trigger bars (bottom) serve as an improvement. If money was being saved on the mfg of the units then the cams should have square thumb bars, simple “ABC” stamp and no pins.
Hmmm, so which set was developed first?
Happy Holidays!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Jan 10, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
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Roots will like this! I was researching the Lowe Alpine Systems belay device, which basically is a SMC rappel ring, and I found your mystery ebay nut tool. It is a Lowe Alpine Systems Hammer and Nut Tool. Notice on the 1974 price list that it retails for more than the Split Cam device retails for.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jan 11, 2016 - 07:56am PT
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Yes! Awesome..thank you!
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grover
climber
Castlegar BC
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Jan 11, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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Thanks for the info. Marty.
I always wondered why the ring had a swage.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 16, 2016 - 03:05pm PT
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Just now saw this, I'll send you his contact info, via super taco IM, he's also on Facebook.
Another inventor has borrowed my WB #7 but I'll get it back by this summer.
Also, have you seen the Pamalots?
Jaybro, thank you very much for your answer! Would it be possible to get Bart Bledsoe’s email address? I would be delighted to get in touch with him…
Then… hum… Jaybro, with such magnificent weapons on your rack now, you do no longer need your old Wired Bliss Big Bud #7…? Hurrah! No matter its condition, it will find a well-deserved retirement here in Corsica…
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 16, 2016 - 03:45pm PT
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It's a gay old time in Camelot and you get to push the Pamalot?!?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 16, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Jan 18, 2016 - 03:07am PT
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Just now saw this, I'll send you his contact info, via super taco IM, he's also on Facebook.
Another inventor has borrowed my WB #7 but I'll get it back by this summer.
Also, have you seen the Pamalots?
Jaybro, thank you so much for your message! I am going to try to get in touch with Bart... Wait & see...
Oh yes, I have seen the Pamalots. On the photographs shown on the Internet the trigger system seems to be a little "crude".
So we can suspect that your Wired Bliss #7 is going to have some more "children" in the future...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 18, 2016 - 08:40am PT
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It's looking like it!
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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I don't know if these qualify as "old mystery pro" but they might. I was told they are US military surplus but don't know. There are no marks. I have no need for them so if Stephan or Marty wants them I'm willing to part with them.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Banquo,
I have seen these nuts on ebay a few times but never knew who the manufacturer was. Yes I will love to have the set of nuts for the Karabin Museum. I have seen these nuts numbered 1-5 as well.
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