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quantum7

Trad climber
Squamish
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
I'm 40 and just had to do one because my dad in his sixties is fighting a battle now with cancer. If he had done the colonoscopy earlier or if his doctor had advised him to do so, he most likely would not be in this situation. Now, he has a permanent colostomy that has changed his life. He was very athletic and can't do so many of the things he used to, partially because he has to wear a damn bag on his abdomen. It's so much easier to get the colonoscopy than to try to wear a harness with a colostomy!
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
No big deal Kenny like everyone says the worst is fasting the day before and drinking that stuff to make you pee out your butt.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 7, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Well.... (in terms of big deal)

There are two, no three methods of pain control for these procedures.

1. Sedation. You're out like a light, and they do with you what they will.
2. Partial sedation - lights on, you're aware but (supposedly) can't feel the goings-on.
3. A rubber bite gag... enjoy the ride.


The difference between 1 and 2? According to my Dr., the difference is what will the insurance company pay. Mine for example wouldn't pay for #1. So I 'elected' for option 2.

They established an IV and then put something in it... don't recall what. I felt a bit loosey goosey, all relaxed and what have you.

Then the insertion began. Still no problem. Then they pushed it in like a foot or more and literally blow air up your a*#, to expand gthe colon, smooth out the wrinkles etc.

I wasn't sedated enough.

OwowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowwowahahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa!!!!!

The Dr. is all...

'give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more give him more ' as I was starting to buck.

Its f*#king HURT!

The nurse got another vial of that blessed water and released it into my blood. 10-seconds later bliss had returned.

Make sure they give you enough of the goddamn pain medication. You don't want the procedure I HAD.

They found 5 pre-cancerous polyps in me... its no joke. Now I gotta go back every year (if I can afford it). Can't wait for the next drill!

DMT
Big Breasted Woman

Trad climber
The Brown Crack
Jun 7, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Jeez Dingus! Talk about being "rode hard and put away wet!" What a literal "pain in the arse" you had! The first pooper scooper I had, they pretty much had me out cold EXCEPT for the very end where I heard the doc say, "O.K., we just have to turn the last corner and we're done". Yeah, right! He must have done a 4 wheel skid and bounced off my colon wall 'cuz I definitely felt that little jab. The most recent one I just had, they just knocked me out with some incredible IV juice. Weee! Oh!!
I asked the nurse if this was a new protocol and she said, "Yes." Apparently too many patients were complaining of pain with the partial sedation. Remember when they filmed Katie Couric having her colonosopy years ago? She was still talking and watching the whole thing on a big screen TV! The heck with that! Gimme the drugs!!
cyndiebransford

climber
Kenai Peninsula, Alaska
Jun 25, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
I am having my one year follow-up tomorrow. Prep day today, that is the worst of it. Hoping for good results, I don't want a repeat of last year.

Everyone should git er done! A colonoscopy could save your life.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jun 25, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
Easy peasy.

Drink the juice and go with the flow.

That funky drug they give ya is the SHIZZ!!! Last thing I told the Doc..."I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille."

Journey to the center of the Earth....but....pass on the take home video.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jun 25, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Unconsciousness is definitely the way to deal with the steel eel.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 25, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Extremely dumb and dangerous advice, specialistclimber.
losbill2

climber
Jun 25, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
must be nice having a choice as to whether to get one or not...
most americans dont

Speaking very personally I am very lucky to have medical insurance coverage from an employer and to make a relatively decent living. I do not regret for one second my tax dollars going to provide medical care to my fellow citizens. I have been a regular contributor to Doctors Without Borders for many years. It galls the hell out of me and saddens me to no end that here in my country with the wealth, resources and blessings that we have that so many fellow citizens do not have access to the most basic of medical care.

That said, I do believe, although I may be wrong, that come 1/1/14 the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will make available affordable medical insurance for many,many currently uncovered individuals and colonoscopies are one of the tests considered to be basic and effective medical care.

For all that are currently covered or can scrape together the $600 or so needed to get it done, consider yourself damn lucky and get it done.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jun 26, 2013 - 06:32am PT
$600.00 does not sound right. Must have got that one in an alley somewhere.

Couple grand minimum.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 26, 2013 - 08:45am PT
Whichever way you go, yer gunna die!
Bits and pieces of "biological dirt" from inside people's colons are being left on three in 20 of the instruments inserted in people's rectums to examine their lower digestive tract, according to a study at five hospitals nationwide.

"Three out of 20 is an unexpectedly high number of endoscopes failing a cleanliness criterion," said Marco Bommarito, an investigator with 3M's infection prevention division, which conducted the study. "Clearly, we'd like no endoscopes to fail a cleanliness rating."

Rates for biodirt were as high as 30% for reusable endoscopes used for upper gastrointestinal exams, according to the study, presented at the annual conference for the Assn. for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

The study comes after thousands of patients in the last four years have had to undergo HIV and hepatitis testing after authorities uncovered improper cleaning practices at hospitals, including several run by the Veterans Affairs Department.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-dirty-colonoscopy-20130607,0,3042313.story
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jun 26, 2013 - 08:48am PT
Gary, you just spoiled my morning latte.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 26, 2013 - 08:59am PT
Speaking of lattes do you ever watch the coffee jerk at the local coffee jernt wipe the frother nozzle (frother nozzle, lol) with the same well-used wipe cloth he used to wipe the counter and who knows what else?

Ew!

DMT
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jun 26, 2013 - 09:09am PT
Darn it, Ding! How am I supposed to order another one now???
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 26, 2013 - 10:13am PT
Fortunately, I grew up a hillbilly. We got baths twice a week, whether we needed them or not, and generally we needed them. Being an active kid, I was covered in dirt most of the week, the same dirt the chickens were pooping in! We drank untreated country water, our cistern was filled with a combination of rain water and whatever ran off from the corn fields.

This is why I'm impervious to germs to this day.
losbill2

climber
Jun 26, 2013 - 10:46am PT
$600.00 does not sound right. Must have got that one in an alley somewhere. Couple grand minimum.

Cragman I know it does sound low. But remember there is nothing systematic nor organized about the terms Healthcare System or Organized Medicine. Costs for common medical procedures within a single geographical area can vary by as much as 10-fold. Everyone shops for the best price in buying a car. Hardly anyone shops for the best price in medical care.

Medicare rate for colonoscopies in an outpatient setting in the Boston area
is (drum roll please)$611.77.
see this link for information

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.php/2013/03/how-much-simple-question-complicated-answer-in-medicare/

A different story which was focused on colonoscopies in the hospital in the Boston area can be found here http://www.wbur.org/2013/01/10/colonoscopy-quality-cost. It reveals that two hospitals surveyed will perform colonoscopies at the Medicare rate for anyone. I believe that with some phone work and negotiating one should be able to find similar pricing in an outpatient setting.

Finally I found this site online quoting $950:

http://www.colonoscopyassist.com/Cities/Boston_MA_colonoscopy.html

I recently did some online research for my brother who lives in the Reno area and is going to get his first colonoscopy. There are 8 outpatient clinics in the immediate Reno area that do more than 2500 procedures per year. This for an area of about 500,000. I have to believe there must be some competition among the clinics for patients. I advised him to call all of them and get price quotes. I will post up regarding what he pays.

One fly in the ointment maybe you will be required to have a basic physical exam prior to the procedure. It will add to the cost but ... consider the alternative and shop around and it is probably not a bad thing to get.
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jun 26, 2013 - 10:54am PT
I got one scheduled for August 12 at 830AM.

I won't webcast it, but I will post the YouTube. And pics. Lots of pics. Maybe they'll find some corn in there, or something.
Johnny K.

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
Up...
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
"There are two, no three methods of pain control for these procedures."

I'd told the Dr I didn't want the drugs/sedation for the procedure. He said: "very few choose that, but I respect it so how about we'll put the IV in and have it ready but we won't inject them unless you choose to do it, which you can do at any time, is that fair?" I thought so. He told me exactly how it was going to feel.

It was fine without the drugs. There is basically no recovery time, you jump up and get on with your life as soon as you're done. Not sure that it's for everyone though, as it takes some mind control. The real benefit is having the Dr describe what he is seeing inside your colon as you are both looking at the monitor.
TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Aug 21, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
It's a real thrill to have someone I barely know stick a camera up my butt and look around. A serious thrill.

But I had mine, and I don't have to go back for 5 years, so at least I got that going for me. Priceless.
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